Registering a 'Perentie' Landrover

[B 52]

I put 48 367 carryall over the pits last week without a problem. The only remark was how good the condition of the vehicle was and how do the blackout lights work. I can't use the seats in the rear without seat belts, which is obvious and a change to the compliance plate which lists seating 5.

[Mick_Marsh]

Bob, I would check with the transport dept first as to what they require before you get the roadworthy. Every state is different but in Qld you don't even need a roadworthy if the vehicle has never been on their database. Silly me got a roadworthy before I checked. All that I had to do was present the vehicle so they could verify the VIN, present the mod paperwork for changing the GVM from 5600 to 4495kg and wait overnight while they checked and entered the VIN on the database and pay the money the next day plus the stamp duty for the purchase price (robbers - who said ned kelly was dead). It is worthwhile getting the GVM lowered here, about 1/2 the price on 4495kg compared to 5600 plus no annual inspection and can be driven with a normal car licence. Good luck mate!!!

Good advice for Queensland. Bob is in Mildura. I'm assuming he will be going through the Vicroads registration process. He will need to get a roadworthy. A weigh bridge ticket is also needed.
These things weigh just shy of 4t. If you change the GVM, you will only be able to carry 500kg.

[Robert 42]

Well I have the little RWC in my hand, all went well they ( all the workers) just wanted to look it over and asked all the question .Didnt ask about blackout lights, did a brake test 52% what ever that means.. ...
 Im not complaining one bit. Didnt need a weightbridge ticket , but I did put it over and it went 3740 kgs.

NEXT  rego branch.. have to book in, will do that to day and get a price...
Bob..

[Robert 42]

Made the time to go and get this done that cost $45. then the stamp duty around $750 , rego on a pension $ 350 , new plate $35 to keep the old plate $130 ??
Odds and bits $55..
Plus I had to pay SD on the gst of the total price when brought ,they dont miss you do they...
All up around first rego12 months $1200...Victoria on the pension HC card.
Bob...

[Robert 42]

Never say yep all done, Went in today and fronted up with all the T xed and the I dotted, right . Then the lady says is that a Jackaroo , I look funny and say no its a LandRover. Well the engine number is the same as a Jackaroo in QLD, carnt reg. it untill we sort that out. Big talks behind closed doors. All smiles we will put 4BDT on your number. OK Its a gower .15 min later, No! the  vin number wont go in, as much as they try nogo, So a few photos of the vin and a email to the vin.number dep. still negative out come.
After a hour of waiting , sorry we will ring you when its all done , make take a few days... The good bit I dont have to take her back to get the plates when they ring..
Just smile and say thats fine thank you. They did try... Bob...
Hopefuly Monday....

[BEARMAN]

Good advice for Queensland. Bob is in Mildura. I'm assuming he will be going through the Vicroads registration process. He will need to get a roadworthy. A weigh bridge ticket is also needed.
These things weigh just shy of 4t. If you change the GVM, you will only be able to carry 500kg.

You mean "LEGALLY" carry 500kg Mick. Most of the time I won't be carrying much much at all, but on the odd occasion I will have a lot more than that on board. I am working on the principle that it is unlikely that the Transport Inspectors are going to pull over a vehicle that appears to be a current military vehicle. When I have the tarp on the back no one will be able to see what I am carrying!!!

Re the VIN problem Bob is having, there is a national VIN database and none of the army vehicles are listed on it. So what the local Transport office has to do is submit to have the VIN entered on the database and apparently that usually takes overnight or a day or so. It is not unusual to find 2 identical engine numbers but not in the same engine model.

[Mick_Marsh]

Good advice for Queensland. Bob is in Mildura. I'm assuming he will be going through the Vicroads registration process. He will need to get a roadworthy. A weigh bridge ticket is also needed.
These things weigh just shy of 4t. If you change the GVM, you will only be able to carry 500kg.

You mean "LEGALLY" carry 500kg Mick. Most of the time I won't be carrying much much at all, but on the odd occasion I will have a lot more than that on board. I am working on the principle that it is unlikely that the Transport Inspectors are going to pull over a vehicle that appears to be a current military vehicle. When I have the tarp on the back no one will be able to see what I am carrying!!!

It is obvious that is a risk you are prepared to take. Others may not be prepared to take that risk.

Re the VIN problem Bob is having, there is a national VIN database and none of the army vehicles are listed on it. So what the local Transport office has to do is submit to have the VIN entered on the database and apparently that usually takes overnight or a day or so. It is not unusual to find 2 identical engine numbers but not in the same engine model.

My VIN went in without a problem. Here in Victoria, Vicroads enter new VIN's on the spot.

[BEARMAN]

That's strange, because Bob is having exactly that problem.

[Mick_Marsh]

That's strange, because Bob is having exactly that problem.

The problem Bob is having is Vicroads are entering the VIN as per normal Vicroads procedure but the VIN is not being accepted. I'd say it is a computer glitch.
Each state authority has different methods of registering a vehicle. Any advice based on my many Vicroads experiences I give to someone in any other state would be wrong. I was chatting to a fellow last weekend on the registration process in NSW. I found it quite confusing and completely different to the registration process here in Victoria.
Interestingly, the No5 trailers sold in Minto have a new VIN stamped into the drawbar. With the ones sold here in Victoria, you can use the original chassis number.

[Robert 42]

Hi Mick, You could be right as the people that were trying to do it were, lets say MMM. But thats how it is. I didnt need a weight bridge ticket, but had one just in case... The 2 ladys were very trying , to get it through... And did spend quite some time on it...
Bob....

[Mick_Marsh]

Hey, Bob, did you get it registered as a light truck (GVM 5.6t) or a motor vehicle (GVM not exceeding 4.5t)?

[Robert 42]

Light truck Mick, 5600 all up, but its still not reg. as off today, bloody slow if you ask me. Waiting on the vin number to be reg with the rego branch..
Bob...

[smcg631]

Never say yep all done, Went in today and fronted up with all the T xed and the I dotted, right . Then the lady says is that a Jackaroo , I look funny and say no its a LandRover. Well the engine number is the same as a Jackaroo in QLD, carnt reg. it untill we sort that out. Big talks behind closed doors. All smiles we will put 4BDT on your number. OK Its a gower .15 min later, No! the  vin number wont go in, as much as they try nogo, So a few photos of the vin and a email to the vin.number dep. still negative out come.
After a hour of waiting , sorry we will ring you when its all done , make take a few days... The good bit I dont have to take her back to get the plates when they ring..
Just smile and say thats fine thank you. They did try... Bob...
Hopefuly Monday....

I had the same probs when entering the VIN with Vicroads. Make sure they enter the entire VIN as apparently the military ones are one digit longer or something like that. Some vicroads staff don't enter the first "S". If you can, ask to speak to someone from "special registrations." The military VIN's are all on the national database, you just need to get someone who knows where to look.

As for the engine number, I had the same problem as my engine number belonged to a Nissan Patrol in SA or something like that. As with you, they just added 4BD1 to the number.

[Robert 42]

Thanks , Makes me feel a little normal as things always go rzup for me with gov.dep. Will try again today ...
 Bob...

[Robert 42]

Well it ......  didnt happen today ... 3 days and counting... starting to look like a joke... They were still nice about it.. saying we will ring you....
Bob..