L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)

[Carzee]

The rear cross member of Landys have always had mount "tabs" on the top with 2 bolts each to fasten the rear of the bodywork. Variants with rear tubs have 5 tabs, cab chassis variants have 3. I am currently organising a mod to turn a cab chassis cross member into a normal crossmember (I have to add 2 tabs and hinges for the tailgate).
I have checked close up photos of a 4x4 110 Perentie GS rear cross member and it also has the extra rivets beside the tabs/ body bolts.

Here is a rear tub showing the sets of tabs and bolts, painted black, to fasten a rear tub to the cross member.

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[Diana Alan]

Just saw a detail thats got me curious.
The crop below is from a pic on the RFSV page http://www.remlr.com/photos/picslrpv4x4/lrpv4x4_17.jpg


It looks like the chassis mount holes (in the lower lip) of the rear of the tub have been beefed up, with either separate oblong pieces for each mnt, or perhaps a continual strip from one side of the tub to the other. If its the case, can someone see if the reinforcing is painted steel, gal steel or 'aluminium'?
Are all Perenties like this or just the specials such as the RFSV?

Are you sure it is reinforcing, or is it that a captive nut plate has been fixed to the forward side of the cross member at each tab to ease fitting?

Diana

[Phoenix]

That one is a SRV SF, not a RFSV to start with.  Was it on the RFSV page as it shouldn't be? (I am not immune to that human condition called mistakes)

This is showing the full width tailboard on the SRV SF.  The body panels are standard LR ones for the rear 3/4 panels.  However there may be some changes to the reinforcement by the looks of it, you would have to compare a perentie to bushranger 110 and see if there were any changes as the SRV's were all bushranger builds.

[Dervish]

Are you sure it is reinforcing, or is it that a captive nut plate has been fixed to the forward side of the cross member at each tab to ease fitting?

Diana

On my Perentie - and Defender - they are captive nut plates as Diana says. I've noticed that with a lot of the Perenties the split-pin type arrangement that is standard have been replaced with rivets (as is partially the case on the SRV SF here). The split pins seem to work loose over time.

[Carzee]

Well the captive nuts on a plate sounds the same as the ones used on door pillars and tub mounts at the front near the seatbox. And to get them off is still a rotten job.

I think I'd prefer it to be one piece from side to side. But you could see where I was going - I was thinking with all the extra weight and stress, the special variants may have beefed up mountings.

[Barefoot dave]

just got a kick in the guts.
My old bus, 51 679 was stripped for parts in Bandiana back in '12.
Anyone have an insider who can check if the chassis is salvagable? no chassis number recorded, sorry, would need to cross check internal records for that ARN.

I have a couple of options still in service, but none with the shared history, ah well.

[aussiegregmac]

Oh Nooooooooooooooooo.
Note to self.   Hide Berzerker.......

[Barefoot dave]

I know where you live 

[Barefoot dave]

I considered putting this in a new thread in '110 Research' but figured that would seperate the info.
I thought I might add to the data for the Surveillance variants. For OpSec reasons it is not totally complete, You can gather a bit more info from Carzees photos.
The Following text is Copyright, buymilitaryvehicles.com
The RFSV is based on an FFR body, with the battery storage lockers and raised rear entry without a tailgate.

In addition to the usual Military equipment, they had;
•   Higher ROPS and roofline for rear passenger.
•   Originally came with roof racks for a 3.8m aluminium dinghy (tinny). No, Really! Rare now due to many being ripped off by branches and the boats being trailered.
•   Brush bars on the front wings later extended to the sills, level with the ‘B’ pillar. Includes a tab to attach the side mounted wheel carriers for the ‘Fully tac’ look. This also aided rear/ side visibility. Front bar modified for attachment of side bars
•   Long range fuel tanks (second 43lt tank under Front Passenger seat, no battery there).
•   2x double Jerry racks on the rear with additional 2x dbl storage inside load area. Rack includes storage with latching lid for 5lt oil can
•   Enough space to fit a 200lt drum of diesel between the spares for long range. NOT recommended!
•   Dual batteries located in Left front locker (like FFR). One battery for starting, one for accessories with a split charging system. Right locker contains a water/ dust proof box for naughty magazines (or other sensitive documents and equipment)
•   Rear power points. I cigar lighter mounted on main ROPS hoop and rearward, 2pin inspection light sockets (same as on dash in all variants)
•   4 Pin front diff from the 6x6 with braced housing
-24 spline axles (both ends)
•   3 Split rim spare wheels  (2 mounted inside the ROPS)
•   Dunlop High-Miler Extra grip, 8 ply tyres. Great grip and strong, but LOUD!!! These were only fitted to the RFSV and SASR LRPV.
•   1 central rear-facing seat, originally on adjustable rack
•   2 Large removable Rear Storage bins where Utility has seats.
•   Supplied with Not 1, but 2 snorkels. A long and a short one for when the screen is up or down.
•   Front bar storage for Hilift/ Farm/ Wallaby jack. Front and rear bars have lifting points on either side.
•   Farm Jack to suit. Used for recovery purposes only.
•   Extensive tool kit in addition to standard CES.
•   A grass catching cover for the radiator grill
•   Front footwell vents, same as side vent on Survey.
•Engine bay mounted mechanical Air compressor with 6m hose. Replaced with an ARB electric unit.
•Lastly, by no means least: Power Assisted Steering! Makes cross country work a breeze. Just don’t turn the wheel when stationary or a Transport Sergeant will jump out and make you do 10 push-ups!

RFSV with Mission Kit (aka RFSRV)
In response to (many years of) injury and death from rollovers due to operations in the worst terrain Australia has to offer, the RFSV was upgrade with a number of safety features to minimise injury. They include:
-replacement of front bar to remove Farm jack and rack, lowering front axle load
-replacement of ROPS with extended version including a shortened Cam net rack (big visual clue if veh has canopy on)
-Tub mounted carrying racks similar to SRV
-Left Rear mounted dual spare wheel carrier similar to SRV and attendant hand grip on tub.
-Larger rear step to clear the towing Pintle
-smaller storage bins in rear.

Truck, Surveillance, Lightweight, Winch, MC2 (SRV, 4 seat)
The Surveillance/ Reconnaissance Vehicle was based on the RFSV above
2 rear facing seats, side-by-side, behind the front seats.
2 additional spares on custom wheel carrier, rear left of vehicle.
Extensive ROPS incorporating a gun ring and Pintle mounts. Think ‘Gun Buggy’!
Standard rims and tyres
Antennae mounting brackets, high on the Main ROPS

A notable inclusion is a retrofitted anti-roll (Sway) bar in the rear end. The additional weight of the gun ring, stowage baskets, gun and operator at the top of the vehicle necessitated this. Another safety issue was the gunners’ sling-seat that kept him exposed above the ROPS in the event of a roll-over.

Does not have the 2 large removable storage bins of the RFSV, but many smaller ones and a rear false floor for ease of access and egress. Their external cam stowage baskets are mounted high on the outside of the ROPS within reach of the gunner.
Vehicles were supplied to Infantry recon platoons and RAAF Airfield Defence Guards from the mid-late ‘90s.

SFPV aka SRV/SF
Additional Features over SRV;
MBSGD-Multi barrel Smoke Grenade Dischargers (aka ‘ Smoke dispensers’ ) on the front brush bar.
Wire Cutting bars
Infra-red head lights
Bespoke 2-piece drop-down windscreen
Full width, drop down tailgate for packs and swags
Wheel carrying door frames
Lower profile ROPS
Waist-line storage baskets, same as RFSV Mission Kit.
Mid-height snorkel.
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I hope this helps.
BDave.

[303Gunner]

All good stuff, but can you clarify this:

In addition to the usual Military equipment, they had;
•   Long range fuel tanks (second 43lt tank under Front Passenger seat, no battery there).

Aren't the tanks 60 odd litres ? (references vary between 62 and 65 lt)

[Barefoot dave]

Yep mate. No worries.
Standard tank is 65, though you should be able to squeeze in 68. Surveillance got the 43lt (12 gallon IIRC) tank from the late '80s UK 90".
6x6 got 2x65 lt.
;-)

[Hot Rover]

Yep mate. No worries.
Standard tank is 65, though you should be able to squeeze in 68. Surveillance got the 43lt (12 gallon IIRC) tank from the late '80s UK 90".
6x6 got 2x65 lt.
;-)

Hi Dave
Where did the battery get placed?
Cheers
Rod

[Sixty]

Yep mate. No worries.
Standard tank is 65, though you should be able to squeeze in 68. Surveillance got the 43lt (12 gallon IIRC) tank from the late '80s UK 90".
6x6 got 2x65 lt.
;-)

Hi Dave
Where did the battery get placed?
Cheers
Rod

2x batteries fitted L/H/S in a 'FFR' style slide.
One for starting etc, the other for accessories.

[aussiegregmac]

Speaking of batteries in the slide FFR style.  The hold down bracket for both batteries appear to me to be not strong enough for their purpose.   I'm in the process of getting some heavier duty angle made up to hold down both batts.
If Private Bloggs tightens the wing nuts hard enough the bracket bends resulting in not enough tension to hold the batteries.
People with FFRs would probably see the same problem.  Have you seen that problem much Sixty ??
Greg Mac.

[Sixty]

They can bend but only with really hamfisted operators. The brackets are 2.5mm(?) powdercoated, and normally the biggest prob is people fitting it wrong.