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Land Rovers => Australian "Perentie " 110 & 6x6 Vehicles => Topic started by: Sixty on July 02, 2013, 07:20:09 PM

Title: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on July 02, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
My Wksp RFSV and bush GMV 51706  ;)

Kimberley 2012
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/HJ65/Random%20pics/P1010759.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HJ65/media/Random%20pics/P1010759.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/HJ65/Random%20pics/P9051741.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HJ65/media/Random%20pics/P9051741.jpg.html)
Some ugly bastard 8)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/HJ65/Random%20pics/P9051759.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HJ65/media/Random%20pics/P9051759.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on July 02, 2013, 07:41:22 PM
Random RFSV recently refurbished circa 2011.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/HJ65/Random%20pics/28072011211.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HJ65/media/Random%20pics/28072011211.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Dodge on July 02, 2013, 07:43:59 PM
Fantastic pictures sixty. thanks for sharing.  Gaz  :D
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on July 02, 2013, 07:51:11 PM
All these pix of yours are screaming for a new gallery set up on the main REMLR website. Excellent stuff.

PM sent
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Polizei on July 02, 2013, 10:12:18 PM
Yes a great resource for future restorations. Or keeping them 'correct'.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on July 04, 2013, 09:12:48 PM
Working on it very soon Carzee ;)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on July 26, 2013, 10:09:31 AM
A curiosity here. A search for Oly Treks on google found me looking over a ADF contracts gazette, 2002 and 2003...
Some incredible numbers there.

Anyway, an entry for L/R:

"LRA -- Mission Role Installation Kit, SRV, L/R 110 4x4, Part HYG9974, Qty 20 $153,363"

Thats saying there were 20 kits and they cost $7668 each. What was in the kit? An item such as the custom ROPS bars, or canopy? Side racks? 'Combat' rims?

One wonder how many SRVs were made? Surely it'd be a lot more than 20... 200?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on July 26, 2013, 04:24:15 PM
A curiosity here. A search for Oly Treks on google found me looking over a ADF contracts gazette, 2002 and 2003...
Some incredible numbers there.

Anyway, an entry for L/R:

"LRA -- Mission Role Installation Kit, SRV, L/R 110 4x4, Part HYG9974, Qty 20 $153,363"

Thats saying there were 20 kits and they cost $7668 each. What was in the kit? An item such as the custom ROPS bars, or canopy? Side racks? 'Combat' rims?

One wonder how many SRVs were made? Surely it'd be a lot more than 20... 200?

G'day Ross

Flick these guys an introductory letter/email and see if they will help out with your questions. They do mention on the website that over 150 had received their SRV upgrade.

http://www.ableind.com.au/projects-details/catId/23/prodId/64

It would also pay to investigate whether Able Industries could provide copies of the modification information and drawings for REMLR archives.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on July 26, 2013, 04:47:13 PM
Very good find there Stuart. Very good for the future owners.

I think these are a great spec LR, pretty full on - but they're just under the LRPV 6x6 (which are bound to be expensive when they go thru)..
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on July 26, 2013, 05:30:54 PM
Very good find there Stuart. Very good for the future owners.

I think these are a great spec LR, pretty full on - but they're just under the LRPV 6x6 (which are bound to be expensive when they go thru)..

Don't forget about the LRPV 4x4s (SRV SF)

Top of the tree would be the LRPV 6x6, then the LRPV 4x4. If I'm not mistaken though, I think all the RFSV/RSVs have been upgraded to Able Industry standard. Something to do with the original ROPS setup being unsatisfactory. If this is the case, would these upgraded Land Rovers have a new designation?

The data plate on the RFSV/SRV? at the Perth auction says " Structure, Roll Over Protection, Truck, Surveillance, Lightweight, Winch, MC2". Should this now be SRSV for example?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on July 26, 2013, 08:57:47 PM
Some more RFSV pix on the web, incl some of ours:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3pMymbmSZaA/Th1jSE-ZSeI/AAAAAAAAGVM/hqa2hVs8r_w/s800/srv1.jpg)

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=178664&ord=&page=1

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=178664&page=2

and a model in 3D..

http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=77746
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on July 27, 2013, 10:48:19 AM
AHh, guys, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.  Contacting Suppliers for the Current Fleet of Army vehicles is at best going to get no response, or at worst, have somebody from higher up coming down on us.  These vehicles for the most part are Current Service Vehicles, with many overseas still.  They will still be on service for some time yet.  So let's not get into hassling suppliers about these kind of things.   More problematically, if they did give you any information, they would probably be in breech of their contracts for the supply of this equipment.  And that is a pickly that we do not want anybody in.

In fact there is a whole minefield of problems should westart persuing suppliers to manufacturers doing work for defence, so I would like to say a big NO to this one please.

On a lighter note...Let's get the 4 different vehicles right.

RFSV: An unarmed vehicle designed for recon in the northern reaches of Australia.  Built during the normal Perentie Production Run. 243 built, plus 20 FFR WW converted to RFSV.

SRV: Based on the RFSV originally, was developed as a weapons platform for deployments into warzones. Built under project Bushranger (later vehicles) and only 43 built.  Most have been converted to SRV (SF).   12 RFSV's were converted to SRV, and then to SRV (SF) as well.  THese 12 vehicles were re issued ARN's in the 203-xxx series.   Before the SF vehicles were developed, there was a mission kit developed that allowed an alternative mounting of the spare wheels where the doors were, the space for a weapons commander, fittament of a wire cutter and elongated side tails to protect the body of the vehicle.   Most of these features were retained for the SF variant.  The gun ring on the SRV was only capable of fitting the Minimi or Mag58.
SRV Original Build
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=77746 (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=77746)

SRV(SF):  Had the above mentioned modifications, and a few more. The gun ring was able to take the 50 CAL QC mounted further forward, and lower than the one on the SRV.   Photos with the LRPV's are SRV(SF) vehicles.

SRV SF With Mission Kit
(http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1213.0;attach=2277;image)

LRPV.  the 6x6 that we all know and love (who doesn't love a LRPV!!)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: 48354 on July 29, 2013, 08:28:01 PM

Thanks for the distinctions between the variants Pheonix. With that in mind then it looks like there is a RFSV in the latest batch of frontline machinery sales running currently through Grays in WA minus the double rear wheel carrier which looks to have been removed. Seems to have some different equipment on the dash compared to the other (more standard) 110's. If I don't know what it was used for and where it would be tempting.

Would the rear platforms on the SRV SF be fold up or permanent?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on July 29, 2013, 10:01:51 PM
The double rear wheel carrier is still on the RFSV at auction in Perth.

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: FFRMAN on July 29, 2013, 10:23:50 PM
That's interesting as it's not on the photo on graysonline site
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on July 30, 2013, 03:32:14 PM
Yes, it does seem to have been removed in the auction photos.  Not sure if the auction photos are pre or post stuart's photos.

The RFSV have changed their configuration along the way somewhat as well as seating standards changed, something we will need to put into writing at some stage as well.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on July 30, 2013, 08:17:55 PM
Yes, it does seem to have been removed in the auction photos.  Not sure if the auction photos are pre or post stuart's photos.

The RFSV have changed their configuration along the way somewhat as well as seating standards changed, something we will need to put into writing at some stage as well.

Pre. My photos were taken last Friday (after auction had started).
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Cliffy on July 31, 2013, 12:20:13 AM
Gents,

If you can believe the sales guys, he told me some of the gear (including the rear prop shaft) was removed for transport.
Propshaft is NEW though.

Just going to check my lotto tickets.......
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Diana Alan on July 31, 2013, 01:07:12 AM
Gents,

If you can believe the sales guys, he told me some of the gear (including the rear prop shaft) was removed for transport.
Propshaft is NEW though.

Just going to check my lotto tickets.......
Do they still do transport in the West the same as they used to in the NT, where they load a vehicle on the back of a truck with the front wheels secured to the tray of the truck and the rear wheels of the vehicle running on the road?  It was usually done with things like smaller and medium sized trucks and F250s.  The rear prop shaft was removed for that sort of tow.

Diana
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Cliffy on August 11, 2013, 12:49:11 AM
Nup. Got a Tenix re-build then tried to hump a boulder. Then probably earmarked for disposal rather than repair. Greys have mechanics and (in WA at least) will do some work to get max $$$
More vehicles to be auctioned in Perth soon.... :-X
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on August 13, 2013, 09:40:47 AM
Great Photos Ross!!
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: 303Gunner on August 14, 2013, 12:45:12 AM
Townsville Auction (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/7003916/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/unreserved-ex-military-land-rover-110-4x4-s?spr=true) will be selling 51-656, 51-689, 51-690, 51-699, 51-758 and 51-779.

(Will add pics when they come up on Gray's site.)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on August 14, 2013, 11:01:54 AM
Yes, that thread is an interesting source of photos, often I wonder where they have come from!
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Diana Alan on August 14, 2013, 02:06:15 PM
Interesting development of the double jointed pintle mount for the front passenger.

You can see the genesis from the early fixed mounts on the gun buggies
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Army%20Land%20Rovers/RCL%20Carriers/Firewallpedestal1.jpg)
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Army%20Land%20Rovers/RCL%20Carriers/Firewallpedestal3.jpg)

Through bracketed fixed mounts
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/Gunbuggies2/lrswb2a11.jpg)

To this double jounted design.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on August 17, 2013, 08:37:32 AM
Townsville Auction (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/7003916/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/unreserved-ex-military-land-rover-110-4x4-s?spr=true) will be selling 51-656, 51-689, 51-690, 51-699, 51-758 and 51-779.

(Will add pics when they come up on Gray's site.)

Auction has 4 days to go. Currently 3k to 6k. Pics are all there now. All are 'std' RFSV as far as I can see.

Any road registration/greenslip issues with this variant? Eg, scooped tailgate?

(http://res3.graysonline.com/handlers/imagehandler.ashx?t=sh&id=3605331&s=gl&index=0&ts=635121230455000000)

(http://res1.graysonline.com/handlers/imagehandler.ashx?t=sh&id=3605335&s=gl&index=0&ts=635121230618030000)

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 17, 2013, 01:48:14 PM
How many of these RFSV have come out so far? and how many in the fleet?

Are they fetching silly money?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on August 17, 2013, 02:45:09 PM
How many of these RFSV have come out so far? and how many in the fleet?

Are they fetching silly money?

Eight so far Juddy.

The Perth RFSV sold for $13,780 if I remember correctly. Add the 6% buyers fee and the 10% GST and the total was a smidgion over $16,000. It was a Pilbara Regiment vehicle and it looked awesome.

The prices for the six in Townsville are slowly creeping upwards with four days to go.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 17, 2013, 06:33:47 PM
Are they worth more than the other types? any thing very special about them?  How many due out?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on August 17, 2013, 07:51:19 PM
Are they worth more than the other types? any thing very special about them?  How many due out?

Yep :) and yep :) and a quick scan of the REMLR ARNs show about 240 of the Truck, Surveillance, Lightweight, Winch, MC2 Land Rovers in ADF service. Plenty more to come Juddy.

Does the photo below get your heart pumpin'....
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 18, 2013, 06:01:29 AM
Loads to go round, how many will be in NSW/QLD? were these vehicle evenly spread around Australia.

I see some have the rear spare wheel mount in service, but none in the sales have this? Will these be available to buy? and what about the side bins?

Why have these been removed?

Is it a ADR thing?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on August 18, 2013, 06:38:23 AM
The Townsville Land Rovers are standard RFSVs. Used for airfield patrol etc. 10th Light Horse over here in Perth also use this standard version as shown in the third photo below. The 150 or so Norforce and Pilbara Regiment RFSVs have had the upgrade as described in post #7 of this thread.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Echelon on August 18, 2013, 06:54:23 AM
The Townsville Land Rovers are standard RFSVs. Used for airfield patrol etc. 10th Light Horse over here in Perth also use this standard version as shown in the third photo below. The 150 or so Norforce and Pilbara Regiment RFSVs have had the upgrade as described in post #7 of this thread.

Hi Tommy, So the Townsville RFSVs didn't belong to 51 FNQR ? or would they have had the upgraded ones ?

PJ
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 18, 2013, 06:54:55 AM
So what do we think this batch will fetch? over 16K

And whats the thoughts on future sales, will prices stay level?

of the ones for sale some look al ittle better than the others...
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on August 18, 2013, 07:30:48 AM
The Townsville Land Rovers are standard RFSVs. Used for airfield patrol etc. 10th Light Horse over here in Perth also use this standard version as shown in the third photo below. The 150 or so Norforce and Pilbara Regiment RFSVs have had the upgrade as described in post #7 of this thread.

Hi Tommy, So the Townsville RFSVs didn't belong to 51 FNQR ? or would they have had the upgraded ones ?

PJ

Not sure PJ but this article from Cairns.com.au does show a photo of soldiers from 51st Battalion Far North Queensland Regiment standing next to an upgraded RFSV.

http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2010/10/02/129081_local-news.html

Photo below shows soldiers of the 51 FNQR with upgraded RFSVs in 2011.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on August 18, 2013, 07:43:08 AM
So what do we think this batch will fetch? over 16K

And whats the thoughts on future sales, will prices stay level?

of the ones for sale some look al ittle better than the others...

As far as I can tell, 80-100 of the RFSVs are still in their original configuration such as the Townsville Land Rovers. There are 150 or so upgraded RFSV of which one has been sold off (Perth).

Not sure how much the Townsville RFSVs will go for. Time will tell.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 18, 2013, 08:42:03 AM
Do we have a file picture of the Perth one?

Do we have any pictures of the FFR fit on these?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on August 18, 2013, 09:21:14 AM
Do we have a file picture of the Perth one?

Do we have any pictures of the FFR fit on these?

Some photos here Juddy.

http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=1081.0
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on August 18, 2013, 09:35:22 AM

Do we have any pictures of the FFR fit on these?

I've had a look at all the RFSV photo I have and cannot find one with a communications aerial. As seen in the photo below, the Pilbara Regiment had their own FFR tag along with the RFSVs. I suspect that the RFSVs carried a portable comms unit.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 18, 2013, 06:57:55 PM
I see the ACT ones went for big bucks...
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Diana Alan on August 18, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
Do we have a file picture of the Perth one?

Do we have any pictures of the FFR fit on these?
I thought all the RFSV were FFR or are you asking about the radio kit?  AFAIK it would Raven equipment.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on August 19, 2013, 06:49:20 AM
Nope. Def nil comms fitout in either original or modified RFSVs, all manpack.

1x battery for start, and 1x battery for auxillary power.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 19, 2013, 06:53:49 AM
Ws there a reason why they did not have a FFR, I would have thought due to the nature of there work a FFR fit would have been a must?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: pvp89 on August 19, 2013, 09:35:33 AM
Ws there a reason why they did not have a FFR, I would have thought due to the nature of there work a FFR fit would have been a must?

No room to fit the radio stacks with those trunks?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 19, 2013, 09:46:11 AM
I see, cheers..
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on August 19, 2013, 11:28:52 AM
These RFSV's are actually very rare, because they may be the only ones that have not been upgraded to the newer specification for the vehicle, so not only are they some of the few still in original configuration, but may be the only ones!
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: pvp89 on August 19, 2013, 11:44:23 AM
These RFSV's are actually very rare, because they may be the only ones that have not been upgraded to the newer specification for the vehicle, so not only are they some of the few still in original configuration, but may be the only ones!

This thought had occurred to me - wouldn't the ADGies also have some though?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on August 19, 2013, 12:01:39 PM
They did have some modified ones, but they changed ship to standard ones.  One of the changes in configuration was to the seating in the back you see to meet newer regulations.  I don't have a definitive before and after upgrade list / photos done up as yet, but it will come in time as their history is written. 
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 21, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Updates from Today.

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Screenshot2013-08-21at73424PM_zpsc2891771.png) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Screenshot2013-08-21at73424PM_zpsc2891771.png.html)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Screenshot2013-08-21at73506PM_zps44c4c1af.png) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Screenshot2013-08-21at73506PM_zps44c4c1af.png.html)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Screenshot2013-08-21at73442PM_zps5732e826.png) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Screenshot2013-08-21at73442PM_zps5732e826.png.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on August 22, 2013, 09:37:34 AM
A high of 18k (!) and a low of 9k (!).

Thats a big variation... did the 18k one have a new engine or rebuild job perhaps?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 22, 2013, 10:33:53 AM
As far as Iam aware they were all more or less the same condition, big difference in sale prices.

The NSW and Brisbane auctions showed some slightly lower selling too.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: pvp89 on August 22, 2013, 11:59:22 AM
As far as Iam aware they were all more or less the same condition, big difference in sale prices.

The NSW and Brisbane auctions showed some slightly lower selling too.

Of the Brisbane ones there were 4 that I judged to be in good condition, all of which went for about 8-10k.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 22, 2013, 01:05:23 PM
8/10k is a fair price..
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Dodge on August 22, 2013, 10:15:42 PM
Gday All

I see one of the above vehicles is already for sale on carsales for $24 500.

Gary
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 23, 2013, 07:32:06 AM
Yes that was quick, sale price was 12500, plus the GST and fees, so big profit....

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: FFRMAN on August 23, 2013, 08:01:42 AM
Yes that was quick, sale price was 12500, plus the GST and fees, so big profit....

do you have a link to this on carsales??
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 23, 2013, 08:13:13 AM
Yes that was quick, sale price was 12500, plus the GST and fees, so big profit....


Here You Go

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-110-1991/SSE-AD-2306600/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Screenshot2013-08-23at74457AM_zps5d75dda3.png) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Screenshot2013-08-23at74457AM_zps5d75dda3.png.html)

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Dodge on August 24, 2013, 11:01:40 AM
Gday All

The price has gone down to $19 800. I wonder if the wife just found out he bought it. ;D
Would be a good buy at that price.

Gary
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 24, 2013, 01:36:24 PM
Thats a little bit better..
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 24, 2013, 07:54:39 PM
Where did this one end up?  did it not sell for arounf 70k

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Army%20Land%20rovers/PA250089.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Army%20Land%20rovers/PA250089.jpg.html)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Army%20Land%20rovers/PA250090.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Army%20Land%20rovers/PA250090.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on August 24, 2013, 08:04:24 PM
Its Intresting to note that this one is fitted with standard Rims

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/adf/land_rover_srv_13_of_34.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/adf/land_rover_srv_13_of_34.jpg.html)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/adf/land_rover_srv_02_of_34.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/adf/land_rover_srv_02_of_34.jpg.html)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/adf/land_rover_srv_31_of_34.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/adf/land_rover_srv_31_of_34.jpg.html)

And very long Pulse ambulance mirror arms.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: pvp89 on August 24, 2013, 10:05:18 PM
^ That one doesn't appear to be used by a RFSU (Norforce, etc). Likely being employed in the light cav role by a reserve RAAC unit or RAAF (ADGies - blue berets?). I'd say RAAF (in the background there is a banner with some planes on it). There also appears to be some sort of RAAF sticker (blue triangle) above the restricted use sticker on the windscreen.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: pvp89 on August 24, 2013, 10:06:30 PM
These RFSV's are actually very rare, because they may be the only ones that have not been upgraded to the newer specification for the vehicle, so not only are they some of the few still in original configuration, but may be the only ones!

Have it on good authority that there are about 60 unmodified ones floating about and approx 150 modified.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: pvp89 on August 24, 2013, 10:07:56 PM
Also the longer mirror arms are from 6x6 models - used to account for the wider body when the side bins are attached.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: pvp89 on August 24, 2013, 10:13:55 PM
These RFSV's are actually very rare, because they may be the only ones that have not been upgraded to the newer specification for the vehicle, so not only are they some of the few still in original configuration, but may be the only ones!

Have it on good authority that there are about 60 unmodified ones floating about and approx 150 modified.

Those figures also seem to accord with this: https://www.tenders.gov.au/?event=public.advert.showClosed&AdvertUUID=7BFE6ACC-07FD-AD0C-8D820955A0FA0735

Quote
You Are Invited To Submit A Tender To Provide For The Production Activities Related To The Landrover 110 4x4 Safety Improvements Project.

LAND 121 Phase 2A, Seeks To Address Capability Deficiencies That Are A Result of Occupational Health And Safety Shortfalls In The Current Field Vehicles And Trailers (FV&T) Fleet.  Included As Part of Land 121 Phase 2A Is The Requirement To Install The Following To The Landrover 110 4x4 Vehicles, Known As The Landrover 110 4x4 Safety Improvements (LRSI) Project:
*  Personnel Restraint System (PRS);
*  Cargo Restraint And Segregation System (CRS); And
*  Roll Over Protection Structures (ROPS).

The Regional Force Surveillance Vehicle (RFSV) Is A Specially Modified Model of The Current In-Service GS Landrover 110 Designed To Operate Over Vast Distances And Tough Terrain of Northern Australia. The RFSV Fleet Are High Mobility Vehicles And Regularly Operate With A Crew of Three.  For These Reasons They Were Deemed To Be Vehicles In Which There Was A High Risk of Death Or Significant Injury In The Event of An Accident, And Are The Versions To Be Modified By This Project.

Phase 1 of This Activity Covered The Pre-Production Phase of The Landrover 110 4x4 SI Project And Involves The Work Required To Achieve Design Acceptance For The RFSV. The Scope of Works For Phase 1 Included:
*  Verification of The Fit And Form of The Roll Over Protection Structure (ROPS) Design;
*  Design of The Cargo Restraint System (CRS);
*  Design of The Personnel Restraint System (PRS);
*  Design of The Mass Reduction Program (MRP); And
*  Installation of The Modification On Seven RFSVs.

The Contract For The Delivery of Phase 1 Was Signed On 7 November 2005.

This RFT Is For Phase 2 of The LRSI Project Which Involves The Production of Qty 154 Safety Improvement (SI) Kits, Fitment of Qty 109 SI Kits To Qty 109 RFSV Fleet, With The Remaining 45 SI Kits Being Delivered To JLU (Vic) Bandiana, And The Provision of The ILS Elements As Required.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: pvp89 on August 24, 2013, 10:18:35 PM
Document showing safety improvements and new bullbar on modified version (page 4): http://www.sealsolutions.com.au/downloads/News_Release_JUN_09.pdf
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on August 25, 2013, 10:05:26 AM
The one dave benson had (Tassie one, never an army vehicle) did sell for about that ammount. 

The other photos are actually of a SRV, not RFSV.  Different vehicle.  I am otld the longer mirror is form having a Mission Kit installed at some time in the past.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on September 06, 2013, 08:36:12 PM
Does anyone have the drawings for the side bins, and rear wheel carrier?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: isuzutoo-eh on September 07, 2013, 09:01:05 AM
Quick question Juddy, does yours/your wife's RFSV have a three or four bolt steering box?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on September 07, 2013, 10:29:46 AM
It now belongs to one of the Puppys. :)

I will have a look at lunch time
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on September 07, 2013, 01:09:59 PM
four bolts thru the chassis and two more thru the panhard bracket.  ;)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: isuzutoo-eh on September 07, 2013, 01:17:50 PM
Wrong bolts Sixty!

Thanks Justin...
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on September 09, 2013, 11:29:12 AM
Wrong bolts??   All perenties should be 4 bolts, there were none built with the 3 bolt.  A little birdy tells me that there ware some detail difference in some of them, and later on current defender units were being used.

Apparently the power steering pump is genuine Isuzu part and plugs into the timing cover (gear driven). The Isuzu pump outlet is modified from standard to suit the direction of the box.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on September 09, 2013, 08:07:08 PM
Phoenix,
by the comments before I think they are actually referring to the amount of bolts in the top plate of the s/box...

Al
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: isuzutoo-eh on September 09, 2013, 08:46:49 PM
Thanks Richard. The pump should be same as civvy spec 110, but the civvy had the three bolt box till early Defender era I think. It wouldn't have surprised me if the army had persisted with the inferior three bolt box though, since it is only on the sixbys and RFSV variant.

I'm not so sure about the pump outlet being modified though. The outlet on my 110 goes straight to a 90 degree fitting to give clearence to the box, but even then is barely 5 mm from touching by memory. The fitting may be special but the pump is more than likely absolutely stock Isuzu part.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on September 10, 2013, 12:20:06 PM
Quite right, the pump is stock Isuzu, but the fitting that is special.  my response wasn't all that clear in the end was it !!
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on September 28, 2013, 07:57:42 PM
Correction to term SRV/SF.
The ADF designation is now SFPV, Special Forces Patrol Vehicle. This week at least ;)
How many names has Bushmaster had now?!

The upgraded RFSVs with mission/ Safety upgrade kit are still RFSVs
Now the Lancers are renaming theirs. Going to have to start referring to them as "Surveillance, SRV/ SFPV/ RFSV/ RFSV Upgrade" etc.

 
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on October 07, 2013, 05:45:15 PM
I have one only of this thing with a hole in it on the left of the rear bumper, what is it for?

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Screenshot2013-10-07at40051PM_zpsc2f5ab11.png) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Screenshot2013-10-07at40051PM_zpsc2f5ab11.png.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Tommy on October 07, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
It may be associated with the dual wheel carrier when mounted. It could be a support bracket for the carrier to sit on. You can see the same steel block in the photo below. Looking at other Land Rover the same as yours, this block only appears on the LHS where the carrier sits.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on October 07, 2013, 11:28:39 PM
Its the standard mount for the tailgate  ;)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on October 08, 2013, 07:46:12 AM
Tail gate mount? but its got no tail gate?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: isuzutoo-eh on October 08, 2013, 10:21:59 AM
Tail gate mount? but its got no tail gate?

It started out a standard mil chassis, same as all the GS units with tailgate, and the same reason civvy 110s have tailgate hinges even if a station wagon...
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on October 08, 2013, 10:51:27 AM
Mil standard 110 chassis... eg: ADF 110's dont have a load leveller, but the mounting holes are there.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on March 07, 2014, 06:15:18 PM
Looks like these have the antenna mounts, something we said they were never fitted with? left over from FFR days maybe?


(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Perenties%20in%20Service/Screenshot2014-03-07at50908PM_zpse87e5e2f.png) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Perenties%20in%20Service/Screenshot2014-03-07at50908PM_zpse87e5e2f.png.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on March 07, 2014, 06:35:45 PM
Hmm, interesting Pic juddy.
Looks like they have fitted a second rear seat and a fan(?) for the rear, rear seat.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on March 07, 2014, 06:48:05 PM
I also note a Radio Tray on top of the right side storage bin.   That along with the AMUs, rear seat facing frontwards and the fan would I guess at a local FFR setup for rear link comms.  Maybe.  Certainly setup for a purpose.
Greg Mac.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on March 07, 2014, 06:54:56 PM
I thought they must have had a ffr fit and at least this confirms this.

The boat rack is also different to the binned rack
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on March 07, 2014, 07:03:09 PM
Perhaps sixty can bring us up to date on what it is.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on March 07, 2014, 07:08:19 PM
(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-03/793C87D8-B33A-4563-B399-DBC5A6E5DA53_zpsep86said.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-03/793C87D8-B33A-4563-B399-DBC5A6E5DA53_zpsep86said.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on March 07, 2014, 07:23:13 PM
Ha, Ha,  a much better photo.  Two mounting trays to match the two AMUs and what looks like a Power Dist. Box.
May have a 24v Genny to supply the voltage.  front tray looks like for a 77set/GRC160.  Rear tray maybe Raven.
And no right side storage bin.   Still feel it's a local built FFR for comms purposes.
Greg
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: FFRMAN on March 07, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
Hi,

Great Photo

it is 48-003, IPV No 3! so this could be a "trial"set up...............Phoenix may know more.

ps I have a set of those boat racks, could never work out what they where for!

regards
Scott
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on March 07, 2014, 07:49:53 PM
MMMmmmmmmmmmm  As per photos from Richard included on the remlr.com site both 002 and 003 were prototypes using the FFR tub with no holes for AMUs on the side.  Sometime after that 003 must have been used as a local Comms vehicle (FFR ?).  Picture taken at Darwin Motors ??.   After that in 2006 re-configured to normal RFSV in Bandiana ??
Deduction, my dear Watson.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on March 07, 2014, 07:51:21 PM
MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmm  you have boat racks.
MMmmmmmmmm   I have a tinny.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: FFRMAN on March 07, 2014, 07:57:09 PM
MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmm  you have boat racks.
MMmmmmmmmm   I have a tinny.

They're yours if you want them!
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on March 07, 2014, 08:45:58 PM
I was going to make a set, but the cage type ones, what do you want price wise?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on March 07, 2014, 08:55:21 PM
Deal already done Juddy sorry.  Never stand in the way of a fish seeker.
Greg Mac.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on March 07, 2014, 09:37:33 PM
That's all good mate, first in wins another set will come up if not I will have some made.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on March 07, 2014, 09:50:18 PM
Looks like these have the antenna mounts, something we said they were never fitted with? left over from FFR days maybe?


(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Perenties%20in%20Service/Screenshot2014-03-07at50908PM_zpse87e5e2f.png) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Perenties%20in%20Service/Screenshot2014-03-07at50908PM_zpse87e5e2f.png.html)

The ARN, rear drums and a few other bits def point to a pre-production veh that was an FFR and later converted to FFR  ;)
From memory, the drums were changed to disc early '90s....
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on March 07, 2014, 09:57:47 PM
What's the funny patterns ? Templates for painting
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on March 07, 2014, 10:01:59 PM
An attempt at 'digital' auscam...?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on March 08, 2014, 10:16:31 AM
Thanks Sixty.
Also, Canopy has interior of an FFR one (reflective)
No helper springs or retaining tabs
Old style Hi-milers

Yep, old photos from the early days.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on March 08, 2014, 11:32:31 AM
THe photos do need to be in context.  48-002 and 003 started off life as the IPV's for the FFR and FFR WW.  So they started as a FFR and became the prototypes for the RFSV.  From the RFSV page

Quote
Initial Production vehicle 48-002 and 48-003 were the development vehicles for what became the RFSV, prototypes in essence. They were utilised as hacks and were left out in the sun for a number of years. In the end they were converted to the later RFSV standard and returned to regular service. Photos of these two vehicles can be found at the bottom of this page at various stages in their life. Both of these vehicles were also upgraded to the later RFSV specification, making them fairly unique vehicles to have existed in three distinct configurations.

So they will not, at that time, reflext an exact configuration of the RFSV. Although their current configuration is closer to that.  From memory some FFR's were converted to RFSV standard, but tey would be that configuration, not half way in between.

And I don't think we said that the RFSV never had antenna mounts fitted, but I suppose it is in essense that is true, the prototype RFSV's on the other hand obviously were.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on March 09, 2014, 11:57:10 AM
Only two RFSVs admitted to by REMLR members so far.
Wonder where the others sold so far have gone.
Hopefully not getting flogged to death in the scrub somewhere
Greg Mac.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on March 09, 2014, 12:39:38 PM
I know of 2 more owners one in Perth one in victoria
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on March 31, 2014, 10:19:56 PM
Just saw a detail thats got me curious.
The crop below is from a pic on the RFSV SRV page http://www.remlr.com/photos/picslrpv4x4/lrpv4x4_17.jpg (http://www.remlr.com/photos/picslrpv4x4/lrpv4x4_17.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--vzS1zidl4c/UzlKxdcqXOI/AAAAAAAAGBg/0xFHDg7xI4s/w1485-h310-no/rfsv-rear-tub-mnt.jpg)

It looks like the chassis mount holes (in the lower lip) of the rear of the tub have been beefed up, with either separate oblong pieces for each mnt, or perhaps a continual strip from one side of the tub to the other. If its the case, can someone see if the reinforcing is painted steel, gal steel or 'aluminium'?
Are all Perenties like this or just the specials such as the SRV/RFSV/LRPV?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on March 31, 2014, 11:59:03 PM
mmm, can't quite get what you are referring to.
Which chassis points?
Circle or arrow them?
Cheers, Dave.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on April 01, 2014, 10:33:46 AM
The rear cross member of Landys have always had mount "tabs" on the top with 2 bolts each to fasten the rear of the bodywork. Variants with rear tubs have 5 tabs, cab chassis variants have 3. I am currently organising a mod to turn a cab chassis cross member into a normal crossmember (I have to add 2 tabs and hinges for the tailgate).
I have checked close up photos of a 4x4 110 Perentie GS rear cross member and it also has the extra rivets beside the tabs/ body bolts.

Here is a rear tub showing the sets of tabs and bolts, painted black, to fasten a rear tub to the cross member.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KsPGywmIdtM/UalNkH9L6JI/AAAAAAAAFFM/TddoVajqjWU/w1260-h841-no/ht-gs-nov70-b-1400.jpg (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KsPGywmIdtM/UalNkH9L6JI/AAAAAAAAFFM/TddoVajqjWU/w1260-h841-no/ht-gs-nov70-b-1400.jpg)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Diana Alan on April 01, 2014, 12:05:34 PM
Just saw a detail thats got me curious.
The crop below is from a pic on the RFSV page http://www.remlr.com/photos/picslrpv4x4/lrpv4x4_17.jpg (http://www.remlr.com/photos/picslrpv4x4/lrpv4x4_17.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--vzS1zidl4c/UzlKxdcqXOI/AAAAAAAAGBg/0xFHDg7xI4s/w1485-h310-no/rfsv-rear-tub-mnt.jpg)

It looks like the chassis mount holes (in the lower lip) of the rear of the tub have been beefed up, with either separate oblong pieces for each mnt, or perhaps a continual strip from one side of the tub to the other. If its the case, can someone see if the reinforcing is painted steel, gal steel or 'aluminium'?
Are all Perenties like this or just the specials such as the RFSV?
Are you sure it is reinforcing, or is it that a captive nut plate has been fixed to the forward side of the cross member at each tab to ease fitting?

Diana
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on April 01, 2014, 01:01:11 PM
That one is a SRV SF, not a RFSV to start with.  Was it on the RFSV page as it shouldn't be? (I am not immune to that human condition called mistakes)

This is showing the full width tailboard on the SRV SF.  The body panels are standard LR ones for the rear 3/4 panels.  However there may be some changes to the reinforcement by the looks of it, you would have to compare a perentie to bushranger 110 and see if there were any changes as the SRV's were all bushranger builds.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Dervish on April 01, 2014, 02:37:17 PM
Are you sure it is reinforcing, or is it that a captive nut plate has been fixed to the forward side of the cross member at each tab to ease fitting?

Diana

On my Perentie - and Defender - they are captive nut plates as Diana says. I've noticed that with a lot of the Perenties the split-pin type arrangement that is standard have been replaced with rivets (as is partially the case on the SRV SF here). The split pins seem to work loose over time.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on April 02, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
Well the captive nuts on a plate sounds the same as the ones used on door pillars and tub mounts at the front near the seatbox. And to get them off is still a rotten job.

I think I'd prefer it to be one piece from side to side. But you could see where I was going - I was thinking with all the extra weight and stress, the special variants may have beefed up mountings.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on April 07, 2014, 05:25:17 PM
just got a kick in the guts.
My old bus, 51 679 was stripped for parts in Bandiana back in '12. :(
Anyone have an insider who can check if the chassis is salvagable? no chassis number recorded, sorry, would need to cross check internal records for that ARN.

I have a couple of options still in service, but none with the shared history, ah well.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on April 07, 2014, 07:52:15 PM
Oh Nooooooooooooooooo.
Note to self.   Hide Berzerker.......

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on April 08, 2014, 09:21:12 AM
I know where you live  :P
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on April 18, 2014, 10:32:08 AM
I considered putting this in a new thread in '110 Research' but figured that would seperate the info.
I thought I might add to the data for the Surveillance variants. For OpSec reasons it is not totally complete, You can gather a bit more info from Carzees photos.
The Following text is Copyright, buymilitaryvehicles.com
The RFSV is based on an FFR body, with the battery storage lockers and raised rear entry without a tailgate.

In addition to the usual Military equipment, they had;
•   Higher ROPS and roofline for rear passenger.
•   Originally came with roof racks for a 3.8m aluminium dinghy (tinny). No, Really! Rare now due to many being ripped off by branches and the boats being trailered.
•   Brush bars on the front wings later extended to the sills, level with the ‘B’ pillar. Includes a tab to attach the side mounted wheel carriers for the ‘Fully tac’ look. This also aided rear/ side visibility. Front bar modified for attachment of side bars
•   Long range fuel tanks (second 43lt tank under Front Passenger seat, no battery there).
•   2x double Jerry racks on the rear with additional 2x dbl storage inside load area. Rack includes storage with latching lid for 5lt oil can
•   Enough space to fit a 200lt drum of diesel between the spares for long range. NOT recommended!
•   Dual batteries located in Left front locker (like FFR). One battery for starting, one for accessories with a split charging system. Right locker contains a water/ dust proof box for naughty magazines (or other sensitive documents and equipment)
•   Rear power points. I cigar lighter mounted on main ROPS hoop and rearward, 2pin inspection light sockets (same as on dash in all variants)
•   4 Pin front diff from the 6x6 with braced housing
-24 spline axles (both ends)
•   3 Split rim spare wheels  (2 mounted inside the ROPS)
•   Dunlop High-Miler Extra grip, 8 ply tyres. Great grip and strong, but LOUD!!! These were only fitted to the RFSV and SASR LRPV.
•   1 central rear-facing seat, originally on adjustable rack
•   2 Large removable Rear Storage bins where Utility has seats.
•   Supplied with Not 1, but 2 snorkels. A long and a short one for when the screen is up or down.
•   Front bar storage for Hilift/ Farm/ Wallaby jack. Front and rear bars have lifting points on either side.
•   Farm Jack to suit. Used for recovery purposes only.
•   Extensive tool kit in addition to standard CES.
•   A grass catching cover for the radiator grill
•   Front footwell vents, same as side vent on Survey.
•Engine bay mounted mechanical Air compressor with 6m hose. Replaced with an ARB electric unit.
•Lastly, by no means least: Power Assisted Steering! Makes cross country work a breeze. Just don’t turn the wheel when stationary or a Transport Sergeant will jump out and make you do 10 push-ups!

RFSV with Mission Kit (aka RFSRV)
In response to (many years of) injury and death from rollovers due to operations in the worst terrain Australia has to offer, the RFSV was upgrade with a number of safety features to minimise injury. They include:
-replacement of front bar to remove Farm jack and rack, lowering front axle load
-replacement of ROPS with extended version including a shortened Cam net rack (big visual clue if veh has canopy on)
-Tub mounted carrying racks similar to SRV
-Left Rear mounted dual spare wheel carrier similar to SRV and attendant hand grip on tub.
-Larger rear step to clear the towing Pintle
-smaller storage bins in rear.

Truck, Surveillance, Lightweight, Winch, MC2 (SRV, 4 seat)
The Surveillance/ Reconnaissance Vehicle was based on the RFSV above
2 rear facing seats, side-by-side, behind the front seats.
2 additional spares on custom wheel carrier, rear left of vehicle.
Extensive ROPS incorporating a gun ring and Pintle mounts. Think ‘Gun Buggy’!
Standard rims and tyres
Antennae mounting brackets, high on the Main ROPS

A notable inclusion is a retrofitted anti-roll (Sway) bar in the rear end. The additional weight of the gun ring, stowage baskets, gun and operator at the top of the vehicle necessitated this. Another safety issue was the gunners’ sling-seat that kept him exposed above the ROPS in the event of a roll-over.

Does not have the 2 large removable storage bins of the RFSV, but many smaller ones and a rear false floor for ease of access and egress. Their external cam stowage baskets are mounted high on the outside of the ROPS within reach of the gunner.
Vehicles were supplied to Infantry recon platoons and RAAF Airfield Defence Guards from the mid-late ‘90s.

SFPV aka SRV/SF
Additional Features over SRV;
MBSGD-Multi barrel Smoke Grenade Dischargers (aka ‘ Smoke dispensers’ ) on the front brush bar.
Wire Cutting bars
Infra-red head lights
Bespoke 2-piece drop-down windscreen
Full width, drop down tailgate for packs and swags
Wheel carrying door frames
Lower profile ROPS
Waist-line storage baskets, same as RFSV Mission Kit.
Mid-height snorkel.
The Above text is Copyright, buymilitaryvehicles.com

I hope this helps.
BDave.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: 303Gunner on April 19, 2014, 10:16:28 AM
All good stuff, but can you clarify this:
In addition to the usual Military equipment, they had;
•   Long range fuel tanks (second 43lt tank under Front Passenger seat, no battery there).

Aren't the tanks 60 odd litres ? (references vary between 62 and 65 lt)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on April 19, 2014, 06:51:20 PM
Yep mate. No worries.
Standard tank is 65, though you should be able to squeeze in 68. Surveillance got the 43lt (12 gallon IIRC) tank from the late '80s UK 90".
6x6 got 2x65 lt.
;-)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Hot Rover on April 20, 2014, 08:37:47 AM
Yep mate. No worries.
Standard tank is 65, though you should be able to squeeze in 68. Surveillance got the 43lt (12 gallon IIRC) tank from the late '80s UK 90".
6x6 got 2x65 lt.
;-)

Hi Dave
Where did the battery get placed?
Cheers
Rod
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on April 20, 2014, 10:11:41 AM
Yep mate. No worries.
Standard tank is 65, though you should be able to squeeze in 68. Surveillance got the 43lt (12 gallon IIRC) tank from the late '80s UK 90".
6x6 got 2x65 lt.
;-)

Hi Dave
Where did the battery get placed?
Cheers
Rod

2x batteries fitted L/H/S in a 'FFR' style slide.
One for starting etc, the other for accessories.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on April 20, 2014, 10:38:54 AM
Speaking of batteries in the slide FFR style.  The hold down bracket for both batteries appear to me to be not strong enough for their purpose.   I'm in the process of getting some heavier duty angle made up to hold down both batts.
If Private Bloggs tightens the wing nuts hard enough the bracket bends resulting in not enough tension to hold the batteries.
People with FFRs would probably see the same problem.  Have you seen that problem much Sixty ??
Greg Mac.

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on April 20, 2014, 05:37:25 PM
They can bend but only with really hamfisted operators. The brackets are 2.5mm(?) powdercoated, and normally the biggest prob is people fitting it wrong.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Hot Rover on April 20, 2014, 07:13:03 PM
Yep mate. No worries.
Standard tank is 65, though you should be able to squeeze in 68. Surveillance got the 43lt (12 gallon IIRC) tank from the late '80s UK 90".
6x6 got 2x65 lt.
;-)

Hi Dave
Where did the battery get placed?

Cheers
Rod
2x batteries fitted L/H/S in a 'FFR' style slide.
One for starting etc, the other for accessories.

Thanks for that sixty I feel a bit thick now as I forgot about the battery box in the side.
Cheers
Rod

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on April 20, 2014, 08:55:14 PM
AAaahh.  that's it.  My batteries were serviced by Pvt Ham Bloggs.  My mods should fix the problem.  thanks.
Greg

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on April 26, 2014, 10:10:03 AM
ANZAC DAY Drive..

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/ANZAC%20DAY/DSC_0833_zps5f212985.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/ANZAC%20DAY/DSC_0833_zps5f212985.jpg.html)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/ANZAC%20DAY/DSC_0832_zpsb992be6d.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/ANZAC%20DAY/DSC_0832_zpsb992be6d.jpg.html)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/ANZAC%20DAY/DSC_0848_zpsb0abe4d2.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/ANZAC%20DAY/DSC_0848_zpsb0abe4d2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on May 14, 2014, 05:40:14 PM
I am really struggling with the front brake pads for the RFSV.

I have SFP000260 brake pads, but can not find any such pads with a wear sensor in them, can anyone advise what is the correct part. Theres only one on the front left, rears are just normal Discovery one pads.

The disks are solid...

Cheers


J
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on May 14, 2014, 06:56:59 PM
Justin,
Ive been working on Perenties since they were introduced (shh!) and have never seen the wear light come on....don't worry about the wire ;)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on May 14, 2014, 08:03:19 PM
Roger that....

Just was driving me mad. as the Parts book for the GS its listed as having a sensor, but different pad. :(
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on June 11, 2014, 12:54:46 PM
New Pics with the boat racks fitted, and part way to fully fitting the HAZ/Kit

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0917_zps80ba6650.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0917_zps80ba6650.jpg.html)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0918_zpscfd2906a.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0918_zpscfd2906a.jpg.html)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0920_zps56dacdd4.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0920_zps56dacdd4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on June 11, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0921_zpsc7451a61.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0921_zpsc7451a61.jpg.html)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0919_zps152cfbe9.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0919_zps152cfbe9.jpg.html)

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on June 11, 2014, 12:56:43 PM
Inside for the kit

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0913_zpsd326c25a.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0913_zpsd326c25a.jpg.html)

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on September 08, 2014, 10:38:02 PM
 8)
http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2007/aug/20070827/20070528adf8161479_072.jpg (http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2007/aug/20070827/20070528adf8161479_072.jpg)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: FFRMAN on September 08, 2014, 10:44:45 PM
8)
http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2007/aug/20070827/20070528adf8161479_072.jpg (http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2007/aug/20070827/20070528adf8161479_072.jpg)

SRV , Special Forces
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on September 10, 2014, 11:59:17 AM
Similar to the RFSV< but designed to be armed from the outset whereas the RFSV was unarmed.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: skippy down under on September 12, 2014, 12:22:10 PM
Hi Team ;), On each side of a RFSV LR are some sweeeeett looking baskets to put suff, kit bags,  water cans etc.
Would by chance, dose any one have a set of drawing/ daimentions for them. Also close ups of how they are attachet to the side.
Some shorter ones on a skippy would look gooooddd. Also when on a road trip/ treck, add more storae space.
Stephen
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on September 12, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
The CAD drawings are copyright.

But you can buy new, these prices are excluding delivery ( Direct from the manufacture )

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Perentie%206x6%20Variants/ScreenShot2014-09-12at14356pm_zps041a3a97.png) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Perentie%206x6%20Variants/ScreenShot2014-09-12at14356pm_zps041a3a97.png.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 13, 2014, 12:04:39 AM
speaking of wa RFSV's, my old girl.

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/Picture9-1.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/Picture9-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: digger on September 13, 2014, 01:20:59 AM
The CAD drawings are copyright.

But you can buy new, these prices are excluding delivery ( Direct from the manufacture )

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Perentie%206x6%20Variants/ScreenShot2014-09-12at14356pm_zps041a3a97.png) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Perentie%206x6%20Variants/ScreenShot2014-09-12at14356pm_zps041a3a97.png.html)

OR FOR ABOUT $1000 MORE GET THE WHOLE VEHICLE WITH THEM FITTED AND INTERIOR BOXES AND PIONEER TOOLS ETC ETC..
http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0002-8001390/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-regional-force-surveillance-soft-top-rfsv-05-1991

11711 KMS ON SPEEDO!!    ONLY 4 DAYS LEFT...

OR THIS ONE  ABOUT A GRAND MORE AT THE MOMENT

http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0003-8001390/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-regional-force-surveillance-soft-top-rfsv-07-1991

101,000KM   ALSO HAS ALL THE BITS....  NOTE THE HEAVY DUTY RIMS
 INCLUDING SPARES
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on September 13, 2014, 07:42:29 AM
If that goes for a 1000 $ more then the side bins some one will have the bargain of the year. More Like 15/20K
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: FFRMAN on September 13, 2014, 08:41:38 AM
If that goes for a 1000 $ more then the side bins some one will have the bargain of the year. More Like 15/20K

15 - 20k has been the mark lately, maybe with 12 up for sale more 15 than 20k this time.

Will be interesting to see.

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: FFRMAN on September 13, 2014, 08:42:21 AM
speaking of wa RFSV's, my old girl.

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/Picture9-1.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/Picture9-1.jpg.html)


Thanks for sharing the photo, what is the ARN 51 ???

thanks Scott
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 13, 2014, 12:15:50 PM
She is 51 619 and her patrol sister was 51 628

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/Profilecomparison4.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/Profilecomparison4.jpg.html)

i see on your register of ARN's you have 51 744. You can write her off.

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/100_0669.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/100_0669.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: THE BOOGER on September 13, 2014, 01:38:52 PM
774 looks like it was nasty hope they were not hurt to bad :(
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 13, 2014, 01:44:12 PM
makes a mockery of the term Roll Over Protection.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on September 13, 2014, 03:40:03 PM
Damn, just the right hand storage box I'm seeking a replacement for.
Looks a bit cactus too.
Greg Mac.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: dugite on September 13, 2014, 04:36:04 PM
makes a mockery of the term Roll Over Protection.

on the contrary -

ROPS Roll over protection

it's for protection welby - which it apparently gave to the extent that the system was able to
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 13, 2014, 07:26:15 PM
No, i meant what i said.

Roll over protection it is not. And never has been.
Its a piece of pipe to hold up the canopy, cam net rack and boat support brackets. The rear hoop itself has no structural integrity at all.

Any one who has had experience in motorsport ROPs and engineered ROPs for mining use would laugh at it. I'd be keen to learn if the original design was meant to be ROPs and if it complied to AS of the day.

As it is i'll be happy to agree to disagree.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on September 13, 2014, 08:17:41 PM
the rear canopy bow is exactly that, it was never part of the 'ROPS'.

And looking at the pic the ROPS did its job of protecting the occupants  ;)

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Young Eric on September 13, 2014, 10:07:49 PM

i see on your register of ARN's you have 51 744. You can write her off

Has 51 744 come thru the auctions yet ?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: digger on September 14, 2014, 12:43:20 AM
She is 51 619 and her patrol sister was 51 628

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/Profilecomparison4.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/Profilecomparison4.jpg.html)

i see on your register of ARN's you have 51 744. You can write her off.

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/100_0669.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/100_0669.jpg.html)



I note, one painted arches, one not...
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: kman on September 14, 2014, 07:11:58 AM
Seems to have worked but I always wondered at ROPS that depends on the body for support. Would have thought going down to the chassis should be required?

Howard
[/quote]

on the contrary -

ROPS Roll over protection

it's for protection welby - which it apparently gave to the extent that the system was able to

it's not intended to stop it rolling over which you appear to have thought it meant  :)
[/quote]
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on September 14, 2014, 08:00:48 PM
Near the front passenger 'kneespace', fitted to the plastic surface of the lower dash area, is a sort of flexible 2.5 inch long metal protrusion, a tap or hose connector of some kind. Just pokes out. I didn't have more than a few seconds in there and so I ask the RFSV brainstrust - What is it?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on September 14, 2014, 08:06:05 PM
I might add I sat in the rear facing seat, the one with a harness belt in the central cargo bin area.
I am 6.0 neat and the top of my head had about 2 fingers of clearance only. If I more than 6ft and a lot of grunts are, and if I was wearing my helmet, wouldn't the overhead barwork be banging my helmet on every corrugation or minor bump?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on September 14, 2014, 09:12:16 PM
Air outlet for the Tyre Hose from the Air compressor.   Orange hose under bonnet on top of firewall.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 15, 2014, 12:26:58 AM
are you referring to the map light.  bit longer than a couple of inches, but flexible stalk attached to lower dash .
If i read it that you are inside the cab, sitting in the passenger seat.

ill find a pic
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 15, 2014, 12:31:17 AM
http://www.remlr.com/photos/pics6/td5INTERIOR1.jpg
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on September 15, 2014, 07:17:07 AM
Ah, an air hose would be it. I was getting a pic of the scupper vent and looking lower down than the maplight stalk. The vents are gggggood.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on September 15, 2014, 07:53:11 AM
x2 for air outlet.
As for the rear seating. RFSVs ar Oz use only. In Oz we are not required to wear helmets.
When I was in, the only time I put one on was at the greanade range ;)

but yer, not much room for the big'ns
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on September 15, 2014, 08:12:09 PM
Here is a pic of the vent (and the Air outlet) inside:
Bigger version - https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8zBCc9iC13Y/VBa4aoIK7vI/AAAAAAAAGps/QkBjLtdoGyg/w599-h898-no/inside-a.jpg
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--0F5rIR7i0g/VBa4ZLw6KtI/AAAAAAAAGpY/bU5TQxXWts0/w540-h810-no/inside-a-600x900.jpg)

Here is a pic of the vent outside:
Bigger version - https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B7A_YOPFXr4/VBa4bE-oB1I/AAAAAAAAGp0/COb7Vp9P79o/w599-h898-no/outside-a.jpg
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DsZsFTr86Mo/VBa4Yv0OGzI/AAAAAAAAGpU/xkeM2Q-YuOc/w360-h540-no/outside-a-400x600.jpg)

Here is a pic of the vent outside:
Bigger version - https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gUN25kXvvF4/VBa4b1IQIEI/AAAAAAAAGp4/nf2XOnHNTpc/w1080-h720-no/outside-b.jpg
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OUJLg6Xs1bE/VBa4an8r68I/AAAAAAAAGpk/BQqetN39dNw/w540-h360-no/outside-a-600x400.jpg)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 15, 2014, 09:45:46 PM

As for the rear seating. RFSVs ar Oz use only. In Oz we are not required to wear helmets.
When I was in, the only time I put one on was at the greanade range ;)


Same same, although protect helmets were being trialled in some circumstances, they never got the nod.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on September 15, 2014, 10:02:55 PM
Welby, was that the vehicle that caused you to push for the redesign of ROPS?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 15, 2014, 11:11:31 PM
The redesign paper was born after a new CO wanted our SOP's changed to operate with partial canopy and spares inside.
It was a call that got some of the snr guys heated, we were well used to operating no roof, the spares on the door frame and packs in the back. We could dig the rovers in and the cam footprint was under two metres.
The SOP change over was not well handled and it all festered over leaving the forward canopy tubes in place.
This crash was then the third in a short space of time and we used it as the opportunity to get a paper in front of OC. He was generous enough to suggest a few minor changes before he kicked it up the chain.
But no, reality was the paper was driven out of a practical need from boots on the ground.

Speaking of helmets, while we were all getting heated over the new SOP's, i caught my head on one of the tabs on the forward canopy tubes and nigh on sliced my scone to the bone. i'll post a pic of the tab.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 15, 2014, 11:18:17 PM
This was the canopy setup in that new set of SOP's.

check out the two tabs , one midway up the tube, plus the big one at the top.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/Picture1.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/Picture1.jpg.html)

this next pic was our home made 'bikini canopy' on the SOP's of the day. Much cleaner entry / exit when kitted up.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/100_0682.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/100_0682.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on September 15, 2014, 11:44:24 PM
cheers, mate. Thanks for the retell.
Chuckles. Yep, we tried that first option for about ten minutes, too.
We had a pair of brace tubes made up to support the screen top back to the tops bar.
No banged heads and the screen didn't rattle like crazy over corros.
We also went to bikini tops and trialled a 1/2 version that covered the ptlman. That got too hot though due to being too close to him and limiting airflow.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 16, 2014, 12:11:09 AM
although the sun was an obvious issue, the big one for us was dust. With a half canopy on the rear it created this low pressure area and the dust used to accumulate there.
good times.

one of our lads was handy with a sewing machine and he made some really nice bikini tops and cam covers for the jerries, lights and other bits, even had some nice cam skirts for a short time.

i have some odd pics of different ARN's for the register if ADMIN will tell me where they want them posted.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/REALLYBOGGED2.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/REALLYBOGGED2.jpg.html)

and for those that wonder why we paint them pink

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/DESERTPATROL2.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/DESERTPATROL2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: THE BOOGER on September 16, 2014, 01:23:23 AM
Post them up here we will move them if need to some may make onto the web site as well if that's ok with you :)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on September 16, 2014, 05:22:41 AM
 :)
If the pictures are big or a pain to post, please mail them here: carzee@gmail.com
That salt lake crust ... Icky. Was there a mothership winch to helpout?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on September 16, 2014, 04:16:17 PM
here is fine, or webmaster@remlr.com ;)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: archieaja on September 16, 2014, 07:29:46 PM
No, i meant what i said.

Roll over protection it is not. And never has been.
Its a piece of pipe to hold up the canopy, cam net rack and boat support brackets. The rear hoop itself has no structural integrity at all.

Any one who has had experience in motorsport ROPs and engineered ROPs for mining use would laugh at it. I'd be keen to learn if the original design was meant to be ROPs and if it complied to AS of the day.

As it is i'll be happy to agree to disagree.

I completely agree. They really were an afterthought and a poorly executed one at that.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Diana Alan on September 17, 2014, 12:38:06 AM
No, i meant what i said.

Roll over protection it is not. And never has been.
Its a piece of pipe to hold up the canopy, cam net rack and boat support brackets. The rear hoop itself has no structural integrity at all.

Any one who has had experience in motorsport ROPs and engineered ROPs for mining use would laugh at it. I'd be keen to learn if the original design was meant to be ROPs and if it complied to AS of the day.

As it is i'll be happy to agree to disagree.

I completely agree. They really were an afterthought and a poorly executed one at that.

Although, if you look at rolled over Perentie wrecks, while there is significant distortion of the front bar, none of the bars have penetrated the seat box and a survival space remains in the front passenger area.  Not something that you can say about Series IIa and Series III army Landies after roll overs even at slow speeds.

The bars are not designed to be crash protection in motor sports doing well over 100KPH, in fact the Army didn't permit travel at speeds of 100KPH.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 17, 2014, 12:53:42 AM
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/CIMG0921_zpsaf6189da.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/CIMG0921_zpsaf6189da.jpg.html)

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/Coastal_Dunes3c0d63a12_zps9214a5d2.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/Coastal_Dunes3c0d63a12_zps9214a5d2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 17, 2014, 12:54:04 AM

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/Lancelin_Dune3c0d69db1_zpsb123b253.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/Lancelin_Dune3c0d69db1_zpsb123b253.jpg.html)

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/Beach3c0d63941_zpsac66e498.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/Beach3c0d63941_zpsac66e498.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 17, 2014, 12:54:46 AM
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/RFSV_CSR3ac518a99_zpsd40b605f.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/RFSV_CSR3ac518a99_zpsd40b605f.jpg.html)

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/River_Cross3ac51dd845_zpsaa808b76.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/River_Cross3ac51dd845_zpsaa808b76.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 17, 2014, 12:57:14 AM
a version of fence wire cutter, one of three different types trailed

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/100_0630_zps22b72c99.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/100_0630_zps22b72c99.jpg.html)

a trial version of a passenger pintle mount

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/100_0650_zps83c62efd.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Welby_album/media/RFSV/100_0650_zps83c62efd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on September 17, 2014, 06:45:37 AM
Great pictures and the mods are different 2, love the first picture with the endless view in the back ground...

Did you always have the tyres on the doors? or were the tyres carried like this before being mounted in the back?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: archieaja on September 17, 2014, 11:45:26 AM

Although, if you look at rolled over Perentie wrecks, while there is significant distortion of the front bar, none of the bars have penetrated the seat box and a survival space remains in the front passenger area.  Not something that you can say about Series IIa and Series III army Landies after roll overs even at slow speeds.

The bars are not designed to be crash protection in motor sports doing well over 100KPH, in fact the Army didn't permit travel at speeds of 100KPH.

I work in insurance and a huge part of my job is sifting over mangled wrecks and figuring out what went wrong. I am also very familiar with the way in which our peace time military likes to cut corners. Believe me when I say that the ROPS on the Perenties are inadequate.

Comparing a vehicle with any sort of ROPS to one with none is disingenuous as is suggesting that anyone is claiming the ROPS should be up to motorsport specs. No one is saying they aren’t better than nothing but its a fact that they were an afterthought. Most of the rolled ones you see have tipped over onto their side at low speed on soft ground. If one of these rolled or flipped at 80kph on the black-top it would be an absolute massacre. 

The ROPS are probably fine for off roading and cross country at low speeds but the fact is they would never pass muster as a ROP system under ADRs (past or present) and nor should they; They would be completely inadequate in a roll over at any speed on a hard surface.
Mounting them to the chassis would have broken the galv which, along with cost, I suspect had something to do with the decision not to do exactly that.

I'm not slagging off the military or the Perentie.  Either way I'm working on a solution to the problem that doesn’t involve breaking the galv or messing too much with the heritage of the vehicle.  Anyone planning to use theirs as more than a museum peice or occaional hobby car should look into options too.
 
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on September 17, 2014, 11:58:33 AM
The ROPS on the perentie is attached to the chassis, front and rear from memory (although only 50% sure on the rear one). 
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: archieaja on September 17, 2014, 12:06:05 PM
The ROPS on the perentie is attached to the chassis, front and rear from memory (although only 50% sure on the rear one).

Not on mine or any of the others I looked at buying.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on September 17, 2014, 12:22:31 PM
THe verticals of the hoop over teh driver compartment are certainly braced through the tub down to the chassis, the rear outriggers aren't from memory.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Minikeg on September 17, 2014, 12:48:59 PM
Just to the tub on my non-RFSV but bog standard perentie :-(
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa81/minikeg/IMAG3909.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa81/minikeg/IMAG3913.jpg)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Phoenix on September 17, 2014, 01:02:10 PM
It seems I stand corrected. I honestly never looked closely at it.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: archieaja on September 17, 2014, 02:03:22 PM
THe verticals of the hoop over teh driver compartment are certainly braced through the tub down to the chassis, the rear outriggers aren't from memory.

Nup. Unless you consider 2mm thick aluminium part of the chassis.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Minikeg on September 17, 2014, 02:06:08 PM
It seems I stand corrected. I honestly never looked closely at it.

I actually went to take pictures of the reinforcing, as I too, believed it went to the chassis and had never actually looked into it either.

Spent 5 minutes rechecking from all angles.. no luck.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Diana Alan on September 17, 2014, 02:15:28 PM
All I can say is that I have seen the SIII FFR Mike Edwards was driving when he died.  I don't know the mechanics of the crash, save to say that a tyre that shouldn't have been on any vehicle blew out.

What I do know is that there wasn't any survival space left for the driver when the vehicle ended upside down.

A Perentie ROPs may not be ideal, but it has to be better than nothing at all.

Yes I am going to fit an ex-Perentie bar to an SIII, but am considering fitting a reinforcing bracket in 3mm or 4mm hi-tensile alloy plate down to the chassis outrigger and underneath the seat box where the base of the bar sits.  I am also considering boxing in between the gal capping and the seat box at the point where the rear stay is attached.  I have seen this boxing on at least one Perentie body that I purchased at Chiltern that came from the Bandiana auctions.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: boxy on September 18, 2014, 10:27:18 PM
Can you drive around on NSW roads with no doors on?

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on September 19, 2014, 09:11:16 AM
Well, some examples of a Yes answer would be dune buggies, mini mokes, WW2 jeeps, some special old vehicles like old fire engines etc, and every motorbike ever made.
But the compliance plate, the ADR approvals (upon which your RFSV roadworthiness cetificate is founded), would scream "doors on" I guess. Maybe the answer is on the web somewhere.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on September 19, 2014, 05:22:37 PM
Great pictures and the mods are different 2, love the first picture with the endless view in the back ground...

Did you always have the tyres on the doors? or were the tyres carried like this before being mounted in the back?

Thanks.

The Pilbara Regiment carried tyres on the doors for most of the 90's.  Benefits were a much quieter changeover, less physical effort to swap over, better visibility for the rear patrolman and better load distribution of kit in the rear. Easier access to your own pack was another little plus.

Putting the tyres in the back only caused the grief it did because it came about at the same time as instructions to reinstall canopies as standard. At this time we were used to operating mainly without canopy. So the whole vehicle SOP's where changed.

No one likes change  ;D
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: boxy on September 19, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
Hey sixty

My RSFV spent most of its life at norforce before going to 51
Any chance you have any pics of it?? I wonder if I can find your name in the service history.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on September 19, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
Hey sixty

My RSFV spent most of its life at norforce before going to 51
Any chance you have any pics of it?? I wonder if I can find your name in the service history.

From memory, bout five RFSVs were crossleveled to 51 approx. mid 2011.
There is a slim possibility my scribble is in it or the other four  8-)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Dervish on September 22, 2014, 03:42:10 PM
Thanks Boxy,  mine is an un-modified version with the inboard spare tyres and one underneath.
Can you post a picture of the storage box under the "Perentie-RFSV" Posting started
by Sixtie as a reference.
Then I'll know what it looks like.  thanks
Greg Mac.

Here you go Greg; this is the Jerry holder (one of many) on Boxy's upgraded RFSV. Photo taken at the Land Rover Expo yesterday. Clicking on it should make it bigger.

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad246/OreganoM1/IMG_8554_zps5fb73b02.jpg)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on September 22, 2014, 04:06:36 PM
Thanks Dervish,  the storage box I'm after a squiz at is in the right front toolbox.  In the FFR it houses two batteries and in the RFSV it matches the left toolbox which houses it's batteries.

However, I appreciate your clear photos detailing the Jerry Can Holders where the spare usually sits. 
Didn't even know that was there.  Mines got the third spare under there.

Certainly had a re-think on these later versions didn't they.
Greg Mac.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Dervish on September 22, 2014, 04:58:40 PM
Thanks Dervish,  the storage box I'm after a squiz at is in the right front toolbox.  In the FFR it houses two batteries and in the RFSV it matches the left toolbox which houses it's batteries.

Ah; we had that one out and were looking at it - but in my infinite wisdom I forgot to take photos. Hopefully Ross snapped one (I think he did).

However, I appreciate your clear photos detailing the Jerry Can Holders where the spare usually sits. 
Didn't even know that was there.

I think it came as a surprise to everyone involved!
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on September 22, 2014, 05:47:47 PM
Yhis is what MrMac is after:
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on September 22, 2014, 05:55:56 PM
Ha ha,   seek and ye shall receiveth.  Thanks Comrade Dave.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: FFRMAN on September 22, 2014, 06:05:33 PM
Ha ha,   seek and ye shall receiveth.  Thanks Comrade Dave.

Hey Greg,

I'm still on the hunt for you.

None up here at Ayers Rock!
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: aussiegregmac on September 22, 2014, 07:55:51 PM
Another Holiday ???   Don't you ever work ?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on September 23, 2014, 07:32:05 PM
Under belly storage ummm was that the best place
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on September 23, 2014, 08:42:20 PM
Under belly storage ummm was that the best place
Its storage designed for 2x jerry cans.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: skippy down under on January 19, 2015, 06:24:48 AM
Hi Team ;), On each side of a RFSV LR are some sweeeeett looking baskets to put suff, kit bags,  water cans etc.
Would by chance, dose any one have a set of drawing/ daimentions for them. Also close ups of how they are attachet to the side.
Some shorter ones on a skippy would look gooooddd. Also when on a road trip/ treck, add more storae space.
Stephen

Bump
 I have not had a reply about the bins. :-[
I would very much like to make some. I need some photos showing how they are attached to the side so you can still use the cover ropes & not damage them.
Stephen
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: isuzutoo-eh on January 19, 2015, 08:11:21 AM
I can post some photos tomorrow...
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: isuzutoo-eh on January 20, 2015, 09:35:16 AM
CRV side bins at Lancer's...

(http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/remlr/CRV_17_zps8848599c.jpg) (http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/remlr/CRV_17_zps8848599c.jpg.html)

(http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/remlr/CRV_18_zpsdf17cef4.jpg) (http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/remlr/CRV_18_zpsdf17cef4.jpg.html)

(http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/remlr/CRV_19_zpsb306bcdd.jpg) (http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/remlr/CRV_19_zpsb306bcdd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on January 20, 2015, 10:21:55 AM
Speaking of bins... the twin interior bins on each side of the tub.

I am identifying some bins for sale by Tim V. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Land-Rover-110-Perentie-Stowage-Bins-Left-and-Right-available-/201267233214?

They appear to be RFSV bins that were the early issue design, that is, before the Mission Kit upgrade. Pre-Mission kit, the spare tyres were mounted to the main ROPS hoop and above the aux battery lockers.
Here is an apparent match to "Tim's bins" from upthread page 1
Image c:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/100_0669.jpg)

and
(http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1213.0;attach=2491;image)

and
(http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1213.0;attach=2489;image)

and Justin's
(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/ANZAC%20DAY/DSC_0848_zpsb0abe4d2.jpg)

but are they. Or are they SRV 4x4 or what..
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: FFRMAN on January 20, 2015, 02:51:16 PM
Speaking of bins... the twin interior bins on each side of the tub.

I am identifying some bins for sale by Tim V. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Land-Rover-110-Perentie-Stowage-Bins-Left-and-Right-available-/201267233214?

They appear to be RFSV bins that were the early issue design, that is, before the Mission Kit upgrade. Pre-Mission kit, the spare tyres were mounted to the main ROPS hoop and above the aux battery lockers.
Here is an apparent match to "Tim's bins" from upthread page 1
Image c:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/Welby_album/RFSV/100_0669.jpg)

and
(http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1213.0;attach=2491;image)

and
(http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1213.0;attach=2489;image)

and Justin's
(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/ANZAC%20DAY/DSC_0848_zpsb0abe4d2.jpg)

but are they. Or are they SRV 4x4 or what..

Correct, RFSV bins, but be aware you also need the frame for them to sit on to be able to punt in the vehicle.

Regards
Scott
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on January 20, 2015, 06:46:06 PM
What Scott said aaaand also note they are L&R 'handed': twin handles at the back on the horizontal face, single large central handle on the front vertical.
If recreating the RFSV layout, You will also have to drill holes beside the rear opening for the large butterfly screws/ clamps to go through.
It will be interesting to see what they go for.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on January 20, 2015, 08:19:22 PM
"You will also have to drill holes beside the rear opening for the large butterfly screws/ clamps to go through."
Hi Dave, yes I can see a custom mounting plate altogether that sits higher than the tub capping at the back and it provides the holes for the handle clamps.

see att detail.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: skippy down under on January 30, 2015, 10:25:07 AM
 ;) Mark, Thanks for the photos, they show exactly what I was looking for. I only just saw your reply.
Stephen.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: boxy on February 11, 2015, 11:25:44 AM
Does anyone have any good pics of the upgraded RSFV fully kitted up with the side baskets full and cam nets or hessian over all the lights

would like to do her up for the show at ingleburn next month

Adam
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: circlework on March 01, 2015, 10:27:43 PM
I'd like to identify these items please.
Found them in the RFSV rear storage locker.   I'd like to know how they are used?

(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww234/circleooowork/REMLR/IMG_1644_zpsixbkaa3g.jpg) (http://s723.photobucket.com/user/circleooowork/media/REMLR/IMG_1644_zpsixbkaa3g.jpg.html)

(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww234/circleooowork/REMLR/IMG_1643_zpswxpvycxx.jpg) (http://s723.photobucket.com/user/circleooowork/media/REMLR/IMG_1643_zpswxpvycxx.jpg.html)


Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Sixty on March 03, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
Daryl,

they are the dividers for the ces bins in the rear of the 'modified' RFSV  ;)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: circlework on March 10, 2015, 07:42:39 PM
Thanks Al.    I'll see if I can get them to fit.   Don't worry, I'll leave the hammer in the tool box.   :o

Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on March 24, 2015, 06:04:38 PM
Just bookmarking this one at the auction.  :)
Re-cond. "51-777" It looks great.

Went for $15500 plus fees plus...

http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0010-5012830/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-regional-force-surveillance-soft-top-rfsv-7-1991

(http://res2.graysonline.com/handlers/imagehandler.ashx?t=sh&id=7438029&s=gl&index=0&ts=635545584346430000)

Doesn't have the pintle and the Hi Lift jack but thats fine.
(Somewhere, sometime, someone is scrapping a heap of used jacks).
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on April 04, 2015, 11:50:59 AM
Here's a pic of 51-682, put up on REMLR years ago by Brian B, WA. (B 52)

(http://remlr.com/photos/lcam/bb_bindoonta06.jpg)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on April 04, 2015, 03:17:36 PM
Thanks Carzee. Not helping though  :'(
Just wasnt ot point out that I wassn't responsible for the scrapes on the ARN plate ;)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on April 04, 2015, 11:58:15 PM
Thanks Carzee. Not helping though  :'(
Just wasnt ot point out that I wassn't responsible for the scrapes on the ARN plate ;)

 ;) :) well i find it incredible that b 52 had a pic of your old mate in-service, out of all the rfsvs...

Why was it that 51-682 was dismantled again?
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: juddy on March 30, 2016, 10:09:19 PM
Any updates on this one.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: wpalmo on March 31, 2016, 10:41:15 AM
Just bookmarking this one at the auction.  :)
Re-cond. "51-777" It looks great.

Went for $15500 plus fees plus...

http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0010-5012830/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-regional-force-surveillance-soft-top-rfsv-7-1991

(http://res2.graysonline.com/handlers/imagehandler.ashx?t=sh&id=7438029&s=gl&index=0&ts=635545584346430000)

Doesn't have the pintle and the Hi Lift jack but thats fine.

(Somewhere, sometime, someone is scrapping a heap of used jacks).

No bonnet tools either but it does have the high snorkel! Looks like a great buy in that condition and for that price.
Does anyone know how many more RFSV's are to still be sold off? I am thinking there must be more than half sold but I have only really been following the sales since January last year. I think there was around 240 built but stand corrected on that number.
Regards Warrick.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on November 18, 2018, 06:30:52 PM
Found this "in-service" Army PR pic of a Norforce unit somewhere ...before 2002.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on January 22, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
Two pics, both vehciles in Pilbara Regt, and a showing (perhaps) a Unit mod I had not noticed before -canvas covers for the jerrys.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: FFRMAN on January 22, 2019, 03:46:33 PM
Two pics, both vehciles in Pilbara Regt, and a showing (perhaps) a Unit mod I had not noticed before -canvas covers for the jerrys.

canvas over the passenger side mirror as well!
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: David on January 22, 2019, 04:40:37 PM
I know of a few that were sold at auction in 2015 that had the jerry can covers in digicam, haven't seen one in green before.

Some of the 6x6's also came with DCPU jerry can covers, I got one as part of a job lot of jerry cans at a farm clearing sale, it has "Robco 10/11" and "HYG4184" written on it, so I am guessing the 6x6 cover at least is an official part, unfortunately it doesn't fit my RFSV Jerry holder because of the tie down.  I believe it was off a 6x6 infantry carrier according to its former owner, (he had sold the vehicle).

regards
David
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Welby on January 23, 2019, 11:25:55 AM
A lot of the Pilbara Regiment vehicle mods were done in-house.
Three Squadron had a number of members who were VM nuts and we had a very supportive command group.

The bikini roof cover was made in house as were all of the 'add ons'

The mirror cover started life as a DCPU trouser leg :)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: dugite on January 23, 2019, 11:38:47 AM
Robco now make and sell a "bikini" roof
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on January 23, 2019, 10:49:46 PM
G'day Welby. Glad to see we werent the only ones who used old map pockets. The buttons kept them more secure than sandbags!
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: David on January 24, 2019, 10:56:51 AM
What is the cam net that is wrapped around the bar work, is it just normal cam net cut into strips?

Did they also use windscreen covers like the Willy's jeeps had?, if so anyone have any photos

cheers
David
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: dugite on January 24, 2019, 04:10:49 PM
What is the cam net that is wrapped around the bar work, is it just normal cam net cut into strips?

Did they also use windscreen covers like the Willy's jeeps had?, if so anyone have any photos

cheers
David

My RFSV came with cut-up cam net on the barwork well secured with hutchie cord - it was a bit of a bugger to get off :)
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on January 27, 2019, 07:15:41 PM
David, yes it is just net cut into strips. No supplied windscreen covers, we just used a piece of canvas over the top. Remember that when patrolling, the screen was usually folded down.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Jdemo1 on March 05, 2019, 09:25:02 PM
Been searching all over for a canvas Jerry can cover!! Thanks members!

Will call Robco tomorrow.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Carzee on March 05, 2019, 10:02:04 PM
You may be out of luck there. Instead of Robco I spoke about the covers to Rod, a REMLR member from Toowoomba who makes Perentie items such as seat covers, trailer covers, etc. Rod sells items on feebay but you can also contact him via his profile here

http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=54
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Dozer on November 02, 2020, 11:58:51 AM
Hi RFSV owners.  I need some help with fuses.  I finally got around to getting the onboard ARB air pump working, but in my efforts of working out why it wasn't getting power I pulled out two blue wires in the fuse area (pics attached).  They had nothing to do with the pump (which instead had a 40A fuse in the engine bay... but I have forgotten where to insert the blue wire connectors.  The headlights and dash lighting now does not work, so these have to be associated with them.  Any pics of your set up, assuming they are consistent amongst RFSV's would be a great help.  Thanks in anticipation
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: David on November 04, 2020, 09:50:45 AM
Dozer
I was told that when the RFSV wiring upgrades occurred and the fusebox was moved up into the dash, a relay was put in for the headlights, this is where it went.   At some stage there was another mod to remove the relay, I am guessing the original install must have been shoddy work like much of the wiring behind the fusebox (on mine at least).  Now the relay is bypassed and the male connectors on the blue wires just plug in to the female blade connectors within the relay holder in this picture, there is one below the wire on the left and one above the wire on the right.

Unfortunately yours has a different relay holder to mine so they may not be the same, but on mine the wires go into the plug beside the wire not the one below/above.   

regards
David
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Dopey on November 07, 2020, 07:10:32 PM
Hi RFSV owners.  I need some help with fuses.  I finally got around to getting the onboard ARB air pump working, but in my efforts of working out why it wasn't getting power I pulled out two blue wires in the fuse area (pics attached).  They had nothing to do with the pump (which instead had a 40A fuse in the engine bay... but I have forgotten where to insert the blue wire connectors.  The headlights and dash lighting now does not work, so these have to be associated with them.  Any pics of your set up, assuming they are consistent amongst RFSV's would be a great help.  Thanks in anticipation

G’day Dozer, these pics are what I have on one of mine..
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on November 08, 2020, 11:21:48 AM
EMEI G187-1 (Mod 20 (4x4) Mod 14 (6x6) on the plate) Headlamp relay link cable. 1991- Replace relay with link cable (the blue wire) to allow headlights on when ignition is off due to LRA build error.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: pwillo on November 17, 2020, 08:28:35 PM
EMEI G187-1 (Mod 20 (4x4) Mod 14 (6x6) on the plate) Headlamp relay link cable. 1991- Replace relay with link cable (the blue wire) to allow headlights on when ignition is off due to LRA build error.


Dave, can you point me to the mod list and instructions.  I found it once but unfortunately since lost the link. It was a list on the mods and a link to the actual how to do it instructions. 

Regards
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: Barefoot dave on November 21, 2020, 11:25:53 AM
G'day mate.
AFM have most EMEIs on their site:
https://afmsafety.com.au/

Select the relevant vehicle and work your way the through the EMEIs.
Title: Re: L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV)
Post by: pwillo on November 21, 2020, 11:44:50 AM
Thanks Dave, that was the one, I couldnt remember where it was and that was the place I didn't go back to check.

Regards