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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2012, 05:27:49 PM »
It would be good if you can get them in a range of sizes.
7.50x16, 9.00x16 and 12.00x20 comes to mind.
If they're cheap enough, it wouldn't matter if they didn't last as long. The rubber goes off with age so regular replacement (quite a few years between tyre changes) would be a good thing.

I have put an enqiry in to VASS quite some time ago. They are a little slow in their responses. Is that usual?
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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2012, 07:20:24 PM »
I posted this in the New Zealand section, not knowing there was a thread for tyres. I recently bought a set of ex NZ army Goodyear tyres on Trademe for $40. They were originally fitted to the sellers Skippy, which he had already sold. They comprise of 4 Goodyears, made in NZ, and the spare being a Hankook, all 7.50x16, with plenty of tread. I'm planning on fitting them onto my Skippy. My question is, has anybody here had any experience with with these tyres? What are they like on/off road?
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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2012, 10:30:44 AM »
OK I've been speaking (emailing) with Mr Ma from the tyre Co in China.

Fist - Although the table in the web page I attached showed a huge range of tyres (including all yours Mick), they are only currently producing 600-16's (must be a jeep tyre?) which he says they are 'exporting to Japan , Italy , Egypt, Pakistan , Indonesia etc'
Will make all the other sizes, but require US$1750 to tool up in each case. (refunded with sufficient quantity - and the mould is 'exclusively ours')

Second, - A set is not 4 tyres;  I was told " For the size 750-16 , the price (FOBqingdao) is USD72/SET, one set = one tire + one tube + one flap .
While that makes the minimum order just 50 tyres, it's no longer quite as attractive cost-wise.
However I understand we can haggle, and if they are tooling up for us we can brand it as we like.... 

Juddy I understand you do a bit of importing so you would be better able to calculate the rest....?
+ 25/40% = AU $86 - 97 per tyre/tube?
From the states, a Firestone 750-16 via UStoAus freight co, is $190 landed - collect from port Botany.

A sample is a good idea, but without the 750-16 mould, it would need to be the 600-16 version.

I guess we need to know how many of what sizes people are keen to commit to and see if its feasible.

Rob
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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2012, 10:41:26 PM »
OK I've been speaking (emailing) with Mr Ma from the tyre Co in China.

Fist - Although the table in the web page I attached showed a huge range of tyres (including all yours Mick), they are only currently producing 600-16's (must be a jeep tyre?) which he says they are 'exporting to Japan , Italy , Egypt, Pakistan , Indonesia etc'
Will make all the other sizes, but require US$1750 to tool up in each case. (refunded with sufficient quantity - and the mould is 'exclusively ours')

Second, - A set is not 4 tyres;  I was told " For the size 750-16 , the price (FOBqingdao) is USD72/SET, one set = one tire + one tube + one flap .
While that makes the minimum order just 50 tyres, it's no longer quite as attractive cost-wise.
However I understand we can haggle, and if they are tooling up for us we can brand it as we like.... 

Juddy I understand you do a bit of importing so you would be better able to calculate the rest....?
+ 25/40% = AU $86 - 97 per tyre/tube?
From the states, a Firestone 750-16 via UStoAus freight co, is $190 landed - collect from port Botany.

A sample is a good idea, but without the 750-16 mould, it would need to be the 600-16 version.

I guess we need to know how many of what sizes people are keen to commit to and see if its feasible.

Rob


SO THEY COULD BE LABELLED "'REMLR TYRE' - INFO AT REMLR.COM.AU"   ??
or would you propose replicating (as close as is legal) the original tyres and writing?

OR would they self name them as they will own the tooling etc (and as refunded over bulk purchase doesnt this mean theyll want their own brand?
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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2012, 02:06:59 PM »
Hi Digger,
I'm open to suggestions.
If we did have enough interest to proceeded, we would own the mould even if the cost of same was refunded once the target was reached. So why not promote REMLR? seems we have identified a market need....
Why not direct ownership, orders, proceeds, etc ... to the club?
Seems that would be logical if the added accounting and ordering, dispatch etc can be accommodated through the RELMR store for a modest fee?
If interested members place their order and pay through the store, once a minimum production quantity is achieved in any one size, the order made.
Shipping can be directed to any state but I understand there are higher fees at Melbourne.
Apparently too the most econimical shipping price is achieved per container and that is 750 tyres - if talking about 750-16
750 units would also equate to $2.25 per tyre to amortise the tooling cost.
The US$1750 refund can go to RELMR to make another size mould if there is sufficient demand?

Mind you the overworked underpaid executive might have something to say about the added work.... :-\

Rob

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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2012, 09:37:37 AM »
Yes, that would be a signifigant sticking point for the majority of people.
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Re: The military tyre thread
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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2012, 08:14:30 PM »

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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2012, 12:13:22 PM »
Will these Chinese tyres be Australian DoT certified on the sidewall?  IIRC if they don't have the certification they can't be used on public roads.

Thanks Diana,

I have put that DoT certification question to manufacturer.
Will advise on the reply.

Rob.
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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2012, 11:04:09 PM »
Will these Chinese tyres be Australian DoT certified on the sidewall?  IIRC if they don't have the certification they can't be used on public roads.

Thanks Diana,

I have put that DoT certification question to manufacturer.
Will advise on the reply.

Rob.

  I went through this drama a couple of years ago about having tires made / purchased in China as I have a friend that spends a lot of time in China getting stuff made for people or buying stuff for people here in Aust. If you look back on the old sight you will find it. They don,t make a non directional bar tread as per what every one wants and to have them made in the numbers Qlty required is cost prohibited by members of this forum Add to that shipping  The shipping would have to be a minimum of a 40 ft container load of any tire for a company over there to even think about dealing with a group like us .

    If you would like to speak with my friend I can put you in touch with him.

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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2013, 12:39:13 PM »
Ok, I tried 3 times... The once email happy supplier has not replied at all since I raised the DoT certification question. So there goes that idea for now. :(
Sorry,
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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2013, 09:15:53 AM »
Unfortunately that probably answers that question.
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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2013, 09:50:33 PM »
Is anyone bidding on Olympic Steeltreks at Mannheim.

http://www.manheim.com.au/trucks-machinery/search?ManufacturerDescription=&DivisionId=T&ManufacturerCode=&FamilyCode=&MinYear=&CategoryCode=&State=VIC&Keywords=olympic

They are available in other States.

Just trying to get my head around all the fees & charges involved. Seems there is $48 to bid plus $500 bond plus various other charges !!


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Re: The military tyre thread
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2013, 10:27:21 PM »
Is anyone bidding on Olympic Steeltreks at Mannheim.

http://www.manheim.com.au/trucks-machinery/search?ManufacturerDescription=&DivisionId=T&ManufacturerCode=&FamilyCode=&MinYear=&CategoryCode=&State=VIC&Keywords=olympic

They are available in other States.

Just trying to get my head around all the fees & charges involved. Seems there is $48 to bid plus $500 bond plus various other charges !!


Colin

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My understanding is this (others may have a better understanding).

If you buy an item for $1000 you most probably will have to pay these fees and costs.

Buy Fee - Simulcast Bidder
% of the purchase price 5.50%
Maximum fee charged $110.00

Handling Charge
Fixed fee of $5.50
If the purchase price is greater than $101.00 $16.50
If the purchase price is greater than $201.00 $33.00

Buyer Admin Fee - Truck and Plant
% of the purchase price 13.75%
If the purchase price is greater than $5000.00 7.70%

That will now be $1231.00 please :(

On top of this, you will need to pay 10% GST on the total of $1231.00

Thats now $1354.00 of your hard earned cash >:(

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