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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #315 on: January 02, 2014, 05:42:05 AM »
Here they just call it KFF just above KFS and below jack rations ;D

http://alldownunder.com/australian-slang/dictionary-military-3.htm
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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #316 on: January 02, 2014, 09:12:36 AM »
hi i know a couple thing that will help date
1: rising sun badge before 1970 there were no rising badges as they still trying to decide on the current instead of rising badge unit badge was put there
2: the rising badge was around 1914 - 1960 than a short break they were gone because they could not make the mind up which one should be current one current
3: gp boot no ab boots for sure after 1970
Myrtle   63 2A Ambulance                - 112-115  (GREG)
Petri     64 2A Workshop Hard Top  - 113-773 (GREG)
Casper 65 2A Workshop Hard top   - 113-841 (GREG)
Shortie 63 2A SWB Survey              - 112 502 (Anthony)

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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #317 on: January 02, 2014, 09:26:25 AM »
could it be a prototype?  (didnt look for dating on film etc)

can we date it by uniform or equipment?
(as in this only came in during xxxx so must be then or later?)

Thanks for that Mike, can we see that film or photo at some stage PLEEEEEEEEEAASSEE??

What is HKFF (Ill take a stab-- H ??   Khaki fully flammable ???  :) )

Thanks though... they are the best by far.... 
Im assuming that the operators would normally wear ear protection??

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Not a prototype.

As mike suggests, we can date by the lack of DBG, but also because it has cut guards.  The first production/retrofits were on SII command recon with uncut guards.

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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #318 on: January 02, 2014, 11:53:23 AM »
Right at the start the film is dated 1970, 3 RAR training at Woodside prior to a February 71 detachment.
The instructor (HKFF) is pretty safe standing where he is as no ammo is loaded at all during the exercise. The badge on his slouch hat looks like an infantry badge to me and as said earlier that dates the photograph to pre 72. The uniforms they are wearing also date them to around the 70's mark as the trousers are the more modern American cut rather than the baggy ones that were issued in earlier years, and the jackets are the "pixie" jackets, also taken from the American model.
These blokes are not on their first training exercise either as it is pretty obvious as the barrel traverses the loader and crewie both move around in relationship with the barrels movement. Note the driver unlocks the barrel clamp.
I don't know what type of screens you are watching this film on but on mine I can see that the vehicle is wearing a 57 tac sign on the bottom right corner of the NS guard and the squarish sign on the grille looks like a SA4 but a bit hard to read.
It is a S2a and fitted with a brush guard. ARN is a bit harder.
The question is whether this actual vehicle went to Vietnam with 3 RAR or did they simply take over the existing vehicles in country.
By 1970-71 the writing was already on the wall that we were pulling out in 1972 so I can't really see that the vehicles would have been replaced for such a short period of time unless of course the existing ones were well and truly BER'ed.
I am under the belief that Onslow returned to country in 1972 with 3 RAR and according to photographs, know that he was in country prior to their arrival, serving with 6 RAR on their second tour and also with 9 RAR, so that is at least one that 3RAR took over from "in country" stocks.
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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #319 on: January 03, 2014, 03:09:52 AM »
More photos :)












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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #320 on: January 03, 2014, 09:10:45 AM »
More photos :)

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I'm no expert but the shells in the  last image seem to come from a different recoilless weapon than the M40?
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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #321 on: January 04, 2014, 04:43:45 AM »
I agree: I think you'll find it is for a Soviet 107mm RCL Model B-11 or Soviet-satellite/CHICOM equivalent (but built to that pattern). Looks a bit big for an 82mm RCL. The colour and markings on the projectile do not correspond with any US 106RCL markings, either, but that crap-brown colour is very similar to the colour used on Soviet cartridge packaging. The case appears shorter than the rounds for the M40A1, and the steel carry case/canister is different in design to the US and Brit equivalents, and has lugs for a shoulder strap. All points to a different round to the US made 106RCL round.

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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #322 on: January 06, 2014, 04:22:02 PM »
Saw that pic with 112-372 in it, in the Fighting Fourth book;



Also the text and artwork..


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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #323 on: January 11, 2014, 10:37:23 AM »
Interesting log book facts re SVN service are going with that GS 113-100. T GB photo can't establish anything regards 113-100, surely.

But what a bargain. Sigh, should have a big credit card. It'd save me a lot of time and I could get to Corowa this year in a drivers seat.. but I'm set to be a passenger I suppose. No biggie.  8)

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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #324 on: January 11, 2014, 11:50:47 AM »
More photos :)

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I'm no expert but the shells in the  last image seem to come from a different recoilless weapon than the M40?

Just thought I'd post up the M27 105mm RCL shells I have. (Ex-Alaska haul road)





And the tubes.


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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #325 on: January 12, 2014, 04:34:39 AM »
Nice one, Diana. The M27 and M27A1 were fixed mount RCLs for carriage on vehicles, or on fixed mounting points: they look quite different to the M40 series 106mm RCL. Had a greater range of ammunition types, too.

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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #326 on: January 15, 2014, 02:06:05 PM »
hi meaning you still were issued ab boots but the gp boots were more new to australia army and were starting to be issued around 1970
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Myrtle   63 2A Ambulance                - 112-115  (GREG)
Petri     64 2A Workshop Hard Top  - 113-773 (GREG)
Casper 65 2A Workshop Hard top   - 113-841 (GREG)
Shortie 63 2A SWB Survey              - 112 502 (Anthony)

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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #327 on: January 16, 2014, 01:48:02 PM »
Hi all,

I was issued AB boots and gaiters and GP's , we didn't wear GP's until march out. This was '81.

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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #328 on: April 19, 2014, 09:48:23 PM »
Hi, Below is a list of Gunbuggy ARN's that we have been working on, the ones in Bold (Black private/Green Museums) that we know exist today  - are there anymore out there that people know. It would be nice to have a definitive answer on how many still exist

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BOLD Black = known to be in private hands
BOLD Green = In Museums
UNDERLINED = Photo


ARN 110-

110-395, 110-412, 110-423, 110-447, 110-501, 110-506, 110-518,  110-537, 110-542, 110-715 110-720 , 110-724, 110-776, 110-780, 110-785, 110-786, 110-797, 110-807, 110-849

ARN 111-

111-132, 111-552, 111-578, 111-613, 111-650, 111-660, 111-661

ARN 112-

112-243, 112-245, 112-246, 112-253, 112-254, 112-255, 112-256, 112-257, 112-258, 112-259, 112-325, 112-333, 112-334, 112-335, 112-336, 112-337, 112-371, 112-372, 112-373, 112-374,
112-375, 112-376, 112-377, 112-378, 112-379, 112-510, 112-512, 112-514, 112-516, 112-517, 112-578, 112-655, 112-722, 112-723, 112-724, 112-725, 112-726, 112-727, 112-728, 112-729
112-730, 112-731, 112-732, 112-733, 112-734

ARN 113-

113-253

Bump

Also link to a discussion and some more photos

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?43695-106-recoilless-Landrover-2A-Vietnam
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Re: Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos
« Reply #329 on: April 19, 2014, 11:59:06 PM »
Really?Where's the photo of 112-335?