110 Won't Start

[Hell-Fire]

Hi all,

My RFSV will not start.

Background. I purchased a dodgy batch of fuel if there is good news it was in the left tank only, It started running rough but I managed to limp home.

So far I have done the following:

Drained and flushed the tank.

Cleaned & drained the sedimentor,

Replaced the fuel filter and cleaned out the screen.

Bled they fuel system until all traces of water was out of the lines approximately 10 litres just to be sure.

So what else can I do, it cranks fine but no sign of it starting.  Any help with a photo if you think I need it would be really appreciated,

Thanks

[AGAS 5]

Make sure you haven't knocked loose that fuse or its wire plug at the top left of the engine bay...

[AGAS 5]

Here's a pic

[Hell-Fire]

Thanks for the reply and photo, really appreciated.

I don't think that's it but I will check, Only late yesterday I managed to get hold of my older brother who in hid former life was a mechanic and he thinks I have not wound it over enough and he has suggested to do that and bleed it after every minute or so and to work any remaining moisture out of it so I will attempt this as well as checking the wire you mentioned.

Thanks again & I will let you know what happens.

[dugite]

In the chat so far no one has mentioned cracking the injectors and the fuel filter line to let the air that is in the system out.

I take it that you know how to manually pump the fuel through ?

[David]

If the dodgey fuel was only in one tank, does it run OK if switched to the other tank?
As Dugite suggests my first step would be bleeding

I would 1) switch to good tank 2) bleed the air out from bleeding screw 3) if that fails bleed air from injectors one by one then 4) replace fuel filter and re-bleed 5) check and clean strainer in banjo bolt and re-bleed 6) carefully remove plastic check valve from fuel transfer pump (no4 on RPS02207 page 73, if you don't have RPS download one they are great) and ensure it moves freely, they can get sticky from bad fuel 7) check fuel lines, a small crack will suck air.

You can discount the fuse issue per Agas 5 by turning key to ignition, you should hear EDIC turn on fuel if it is working.

When you bleed is your hand primer working, can you see it pushing fuel out of the bleed screw, if not it could be the primer has failed or leaks air?

caveat, I am not a mechanic so I am happy to be over-ruled by people who know more, but these steps work for me and I make and use fairly unrefined biofuel so this is a twice yearly occurrence for me, i have one tank with issues now.

good luck, it is a pain in the A.


cheers
David

[tona]

 >:   HI hell fire, if you do what david says i reckon you will get your refs to fire up once again , one thing make sure your fuel is clean aye ,TONA 51590 also a rfsv,.

[AGAS 5]

Thanks for the reply and photo, really appreciated.

I don't think that's it but I will check, Only late yesterday I managed to get hold of my older brother who in hid former life was a mechanic and he thinks I have not wound it over enough and he has suggested to do that and bleed it after every minute or so and to work any remaining moisture out of it so I will attempt this as well as checking the wire you mentioned.

Thanks again & I will let you know what happens.

No worries, sometimes it pays to check the easy things before you start dismantling engine bays, it can save a lot of heartache

There are a lot of new Perentie owners not familiar with the vehicle and simply don't know what noises are meant to come from what components or whether the noise should be there in the first place. Pointing, saying 'check this' and if necessary explaining why has helped me a great deal since I started using these things many ago. Good luck and let us know the outcome.

[Hell-Fire]

Thanks for the replies everyone.

As I said in my first post I have well and truly Bled the system, when I cross trained on these vehicles back in the day and covered fault finding anything with fuel above bleeding the injector pump meant call RAEME but noting ever went wrong with these engines.

When I first noticed the intermittent power loss my first thought was the blocked screen which I have read on here, this was the first thing I removed, it was blocked and I noticed the water when I bled the system so I started at the tank and worked my way forward.

I will loosen the injector lines one at a time this weekend bleeding in between each one and give it another go. I should add despite the "full service" @ 15,000k's noted in the service book there was no way the left hand sedimenter - judging by the filth in it (water aside) had ever been off the vehicle .

Thanks again,

[BEARMAN]

There is no need to remove injector lines, just bleed the system using the hand primer and the return line bleed screw which is on the top of the fuel filter housing in the middle where the return line comes from the injectors. More than likely it is sucking air and most likely from the hand primer. Is it the old screw in type one or a later one that doesn't screw in when you are finished priming. The old type are notorious for leaking especially when old and haven't been used for some time. The Bosch ones are pretty cheap - I would replace it if you have the old type.

[Hell-Fire]

Good news IT GOES

I decided not to crack the injector lines for the time being, I re-bled the system after double checking the filter and tried it again, took a little while but when it started all was good, took it for a drive and it reconfirmed what I already knew that this is the smoothest running Landrover  I have ever driven but I suppose I should expect that as it has only just clocked up 18000 k's.

@ BEARMAN The hand primer is the later one that does not screw in, In hindsight it just got enough water in it to cause me a lot of grief and it took time to get it all out.

I would like to thank everyone who took the time to reply, your help is and was very much appreciated.

[Mick]

 Good to hear Hell Fire,

It`s a great forum with heaps of knowledgeable members always willing to assist.  You know who you are.

Great result.

Cheers,

Mick

[AGAS 5]

Good news IT GOES

I would like to thank everyone who took the time to reply, your help is and was very much appreciated.

Great outcome. Well done.