178-365 109 1971 - Series 2A 6028B Truck, Utility, 3/4 Ton, GS, Cargo With Winch

[m-coffey]

After many months of procrastination, time has come to get my 109's details sorted out.
I bought the vehicle from a local here in Whyalla, who purchased it from auction prior to his leaving Sydney, unfortunately he passed away shortly after.
It was painted all white and fitted with a hard top on purchase, fortunately the complete soft top and fittings were saved, still havnt got the S2a soft top, currently fitted with a 110 soft top I was given!
There seem to be a few glaring differences between what I have and what is a recognised S2a GS with winch, in particular the chassis.
It appears to have a late 2a/3 civilian pattern chassis but with the extended shacklesand dumb irons.
unfortunately my mate who resprayed it has painted over the data plate, there is a lot more work to clean up the rest, but above the tyre plate there is a stamped aluminium plate with the following: 3/3/71, STH, 10.
If any one could shed any light on I would be most appreciated.

[FFRMAN]

G'day,
The REMLR website registration information tells us

178-365    109    1971    -    Series 2A    6028B    Truck, Utility, 3/4 Ton, GS, Cargo With Winch    25350351K    25334871G    -    750x16       Fitted w/Bamford winch.    14.02.90

25334871G - is the original chassis number, yours looks like a civilian chassis as the rear cross member is not an army cross member, check the number on the chassis, it is on the spring hanger/rear passenger side.

Also check the engine number 25350351K. (Check for twin belt pulley this is a quick check it is an army engine, if the number doesn't match but has twin belt pulleys then it's probably an in service engine change).

If neither of these match then only the data plates can be verified as original..... if the engine number matches you have some originality and possibly it has had a chassis swap (or if the chassis number is correct then maybe it had a rear cross member swap after service).

Does it have twin fuel tanks (with dip sticks?), everything else is original assuming the black out panels are in.

The aluminum plate is put on when they first go into service, someone else may have details on the STH 10

Either way it looks very good and keep enjoying it!

Regards
Scott

[m-coffey]

Hi Scott,
Cant find a chassis number in any of the known locations, engine number matches with twin belts and 5 blade fan, and yes it is fitted with the twin tanks, dip sticks, change over valve, map reading lights, convoy lights, change over switch for fuel guage, stand alone oil pressure guage blackout light switch and knob for electric start (no key). It does look a little suspicious but too many fittings etc.
Noe thing that does look out of place is where the winch is fitted in there is a bracket welded to the top of the chassis cut off, lines up with brush bar support arms with no winch fitted.
I seem to attract the stranger vehicles, I also have an 80" with more military fittings than standard but no id!

[Tommy]

G'day M

Check to see if the rear cross member has simply been replaced with a civilian version. Inspect the chassis for tell tale cuts and welds.

[m-coffey]

Cant see any mods to the chassis that would give away a splice joint, the only spot plated in any way is the front dumb irons. It doesnt take much to flake some of the paint off of the underside to reveal a shiney black paint job, scrape that to reveal a redoxide undercoat. Unfortunately the previous owner passed away, I dont believe He did anything more than hide the green paint job.

[Tommy]

Cant see any mods to the chassis that would give away a splice joint, the only spot plated in any way is the front dumb irons. It doesnt take much to flake some of the paint off of the underside to reveal a shiney black paint job, scrape that to reveal a redoxide undercoat. Unfortunately the previous owner passed away, I dont believe He did anything more than hide the green paint job.

Can you post up some photos of the dumb iron mods? Maybe the chassis is a 'militarised' civilian chassis. You will need to hunt down the chassis number stamped on the rear spring hanger to confirm.

[bronzie66610]

The front spring hangers appear to be lower than bumper bar. To me this looks military, but rear member looks sus.

[master chief]

Front of the chassis certainly looks Military, the rear crossmember is civvy, so has probably been changed due to rust or damage, the STH on the plate means Southern Command, the 10 is kilometres/ miles on the vehicle at time of plate been fitted/vehicle been accepted into service.

MC

[bronzie66610]

Made ID plate larger, maybe 25114871 G ? I maybe wrong, hard to tell from pic.
Looks like NATO socketon LHS and TAC plate holes RHS rear.

[bronzie66610]

Bidding on S3 109 on Ebay. It is pretty rotten according to owner. Has a Civvy looking rear cross member. No air lifting brackets, very rust garden tool brackets.
Chassis number 4322696 C same as on plate near radiator.
Dave

[Uncle Ho]

G'day m-coffey 

You vehicle is a late 2a "G" suffix chassis, which would have normally been a headlights in the guard unit, BUT, there were a few which were destined for SVN which were fitted with the earlier style front panels (to make parts stores efficient/compatable) your vehicle looks like one of those,there weren't a lot maybe 50 tops, then the decision was made to withdraw from SVN and any further vehicles supplied were the then current lights in guard 2As suffix "G"s 

To remove the overpaint from the ID plates take them off and soak in brake fluid  the into service/acceptence plate 3-3-1971  STH (commd) 10 (miles) pre metric, signifies the date and milege and to whom it was first accepted into military service and would have been issued with ARN plates
Usually there would be a number and letter stamped in that plate as well,like 1A =new condition  a fully reconditioned/total rebuild would have something like 2a stamped into it.

the Civi pattern rear crossmember would probably be a rust repair job and the only available rear X member is/was the civi one, this can be circumvented by removing the dropped section and welding a plate across it which effectly turns it into a military one 


cheers

[Phoenix]

Bidding on S3 109 on Ebay. It is pretty rotten according to owner. Has a Civvy looking rear cross member. No air lifting brackets, very rust garden tool brackets.
Chassis number 4322696 C same as on plate near radiator.
Dave

That would be ARN 29-908

[bronzie66610]

Thanks Phoenix
The vehicle is only good for a few parts, chassis rusty but maybe salvaged at great effort.
Dave

[m-coffey]

Its been a quiet holiday over here, thought I'd put up a photo of our little drive down the coast for lunch.
Took the trailer along for a ride for the hell of it!
enjoy

[Tommy]

Its been a quiet holiday over here, thought I'd put up a photo of our little drive down the coast for lunch.
Took the trailer along for a ride for the hell of it!
enjoy

Stunning photo M

Did you sort out the rear cross member? Was it a military mod using a civilian member as suggested by Uncle Ho?