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Tyres for a Perentie??
« on: April 06, 2016, 06:45:53 AM »
Hi all,
Only had my Perentie a few weeks and love it.

I'm about to head from Launceston to Hobart to a well respected Landy mechanic to get it's first big check-over and service.
I've already changed the oil and filter as I was unhappy with the colour/viscosity and didn't know how long it had been in the engine - I bought the car local from someone who had in turn bought in Qld at the auctions and driven it down to Tas.

On first inspection, the car came up very well with only minor things to be done (went to a local mechanic for a paid pre-sale check), but the other day I noticed on closer inspection that the tyres (which are Michelin), have some long and probably deep cracks at the base of the lugs as well as more cracks small and more, spread around nearly every tyres carcass (not the sidewall).

As said, on first inspection I was impressed because the tyres appeared to be in used condition but with plenty of rubber left, but now I'm really concerned for several reasons... ingress of water into the carcass/belts, etc, deterioration and unknown damage within the tyre from this and also the possibility of mechanical weakness with some/all these cracks/splits, leading to possible catastrophic consequences at highway speeds!

So, I unfortunately believe I'm up for new tyres, but I'll take advice here and although a friend of mine (and ex industrial chemist with specialist knowledge in rubber compounds and who loves Michelin) swears by a Michelin tyre, my concern about buying the same tyre again, would be that under tough terrain use the rubber splits and cracks at the base!
The tyres are stamped 2011 manufacture, so they are only getting slightly old now and I didn't think this would/should be a normal scenario for an expensive, good tyre?

So, unless I can be convinced otherwise, I need some help to be sure of getting the correct tyre for this car and although I've looked at  quite a few forums, I'm still a little bit confused.

The present tyres are Michelin 4x4 - O/R  7.50 R16 C XZL Radial X.
They rode well and I thought that if they were good enough for the Army I would get again, but on seeing those cracks I need some help and advice here.

I don't want nor can afford to go to a tyre dealer and get the wrong advice on this car, so would appreciate some advice please.

I live in Tas and I need to be sure that the car will stick and stop reasonably well in winter on our greasy roads, but can be taken bush with confidence, so a tough tyre that sticks reasonably well in the wet on bitumen is wanted and also, not a compound that is so hard it slides through the lights in the rain (happened to me some years ago and wasn't fun).

I gather the rims are an odd width on these cars and I'm confused as to whether the rims are, or need to be tube or tubeles, so I'm not sure on how this fairs for me buying a good, but not too expensive tyre.

Your thoughts?

Many thanks, Alvin
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2016, 08:34:57 AM »
Unless you want to go different there's nothing wrong with the Michelin 4x4.
Army found out they were better than the original cladding when they were
using Goodyears.
The Goodyears were then relegated to trailer use.
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2016, 08:46:43 AM »
Thanks Greg,
I would have thought so to, but any idea why my tyres are are like this (and what's to stop this happening again) and would you agree that it's not wise to travel at high speed with these cracks?

Alvin
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2016, 11:53:25 AM »
Age of the rubber maybe, and overpressurization at some time.  I'd be guessing.
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2016, 12:42:47 PM »
XZLs are an excellent tyre and can be purchased for around &220 each. Tip of the day; they don't appear on the tyre shops computer so tell them to ring Michelin direct to order.
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2016, 01:09:45 PM »
Someone recently said they were stopping making them, I think thats highly unlikely as most Army Land Rovers over the word still use these tyres.  I did struggle to get 4 direct from the importer a few weeks ago, so not sure if stocks low.
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2016, 03:46:26 PM »
Thanks for all the helpful replies.

Well, I'll give the Michelin's another chance then and order some, it's just a shame as the ones on the vehicle are sooo good with plenty of tread left, but I really don't feel confident driving with these small fissures all over the base tread at highway speed!
Damn, an expensive exercise when I thought I had thousands of k's to go.



 
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2016, 04:07:40 PM »
When you go looking for a dealer take the worst wheel/tyre with you to see if the Dealer can pinpoint any cause.
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2016, 04:15:59 PM »
Thanks again Greg and will do.

Well I've done a quick ring around and for god's sake... prices per tyre from the only 3 dealers in Michelin in Launceston range from $360 to $290 per tyre and it's ALL because of HOW EXPENSIVE it is to ship to Tas!

Boy are we penalised here. Where's the 'freight parity' and what the hell. This is Australia, what's the difference in sending it to Perth, Darwin, the middle of Oz, it's a bloody big county, why is sending it to Tas so damn different. It still has to come by boat and road at some stage!

If FFRMAN's prices are correct, we are a cash cow down here for the bastards up north!

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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2016, 04:40:14 PM »
Might even be worth the trip across ?

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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2016, 07:36:14 PM »
Hi mate,
I recently put 5 new Michelins on "the beast" used Kmart tyre and auto, $250 each fitted and balanced.
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2016, 08:19:03 PM »
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If FFRMAN's prices are correct, we are a cash cow down here for the bastards up north!



It's correct alright, I've bought 16 over the last 12 months, the last yesterday, 4 = $880 incl GST, ie $220 each bare and 240 tube fitted balanced - but I am a regular customer...........
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2016, 08:37:44 PM »
Well I've had an update as of this afternoon and after talking to a knowledgeable mechanic, he's recommended that Michelin (and probably many/most tyre manufacturers) in fact have a warranty on their tyres (not something they would probably like to be bandied around too much) and if my tyres are within the time limits, which they most certainly seem to be, then this problem should involve a warranty of 'replacement'!

I've been in touch with Michelin and will be seeing one of their dealers on Friday and hopefully this will be sorted in my favour.

In this case I firmly believe it's completely justified and hope the outcome is positive.

I'll keep you posted if you're interested.
It's just a bloody pain in the neck to have to do this, when the tyres actually look good on first inspection... go figure!
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2016, 03:47:28 PM »
Toyo M504 750/16

Has anybody looked or used these http://toyotires.com.au/tyres/light-commercial-tyres/item/26-m504
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Re: Tyres for a Perentie??
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2016, 07:40:32 PM »
They're a truck tyre. They'd be strong.
I would be tempted to put them on a 6x6. Mine does mainly road work.
Toyo is a good brand.

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