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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2013, 05:44:57 PM »
Are we talking about the Malayan Emergency, or was the Commonwealth formation sign used elsewhere?

If it were the Malayan Emergency, the RAE definately had International teaspoon tippers and Mk3 Internationals and even trialed the Mercedes Unimog.  There is a thread in the International Truck area.

Not sure if we had any Land Rovers, we likely used the British Army stock.

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2013, 07:42:47 PM »
I was referring to the 28th Commonwealth Brigade which was a Brit Infantry unit which contained Aust. NZ, Indian and British Bns. and supporting elements.
208 Sig Sqn was to my knowledge a sig British Unit which would have had Aussie detachments.
On their site there is picture of a radio vehicle and it definitely is not one of ours, and carries the signage that was mentioned earlier of the Commonwealth Brigade.
The RAE detachments in both Malaya and New Guinea (64-65) used AA International trucks and then replaced them with the the AB Teaspoons when they came out. A lot of those trucks were 87 Platoon vehicles. ;D

"Raised in April 1951 in Korea to replace the British 27th Infantry Brigade, the 28th Brigade contained infantry battalions from Australia and Britain, artillery batteries from Britain and New Zealand, a British armoured squadron and an Indian field ambulance. It formed part of the 1st Commonwealth Division, activated in July 1951, and fought right through the Korean War and remained into the ceasefire period. It was commanded by a succession of first British and then Australian officers, and was disbanded in the draw-down of United Nations forces in 1954. It was re-formed in Malaya in 1955 to form part of the British Commonwealth Far East Strategic Reserve for use in SEATO operations, and took part in the Malayan Emergency, which was not in fact its primary task. It now consisted of a British, an Australian and a New Zealand infantry battalion with supporting arms and services. Elements of the brigade continued to harry remaining communist terrorists along the border with Thailand after the official end of the Emergency in July 1960. Between 1964 and 1966 its units served in southern Malaya and Borneo on operations against the Indonesians during Confrontation. It was redesignated 28 (ANZUK) Brigade in November 1971 under the Five Power Defence Arrangements which emerged from Britain's decision finally to withdraw from ‘east of Suez’ and the termination of the Anglo-Malayan Defence Agreement. It was finally disestablished in February 1975 when Australia withdrew its battalion, although the New Zealand unit remained in Singapore until the 1980s."

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/28th-commonwealth-infantry-brigade#ixzz2ZrLKWF5J
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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #47 on: July 24, 2013, 11:53:47 AM »
Thanks Glen.  :)
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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #48 on: July 24, 2013, 12:42:36 PM »
Tks Glen.  I checked the 208 Sig Sqn site and got some good reference material to dress up my Series 2 FFW.
Good stuff.
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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #49 on: July 24, 2013, 01:56:31 PM »
I remember the old Inter AA trucks on the Singleton area in the early 70s, we thought them so old in comparison with the new Mk4s and F1s.

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #50 on: July 24, 2013, 02:05:40 PM »
Tks Glen.  I checked the 208 Sig Sqn site and got some good reference material to dress up my Series 2 FFW.
Good stuff.
Now you'll have to find some Larkspur radio stuff to load up in the back!

Tim Vibert (Empire Trading), at Winton Raceway in Victoria had some of the radio platforms, but I don't think he had the track to mount them on the wheel boxes in the Landy.  The mounts would be pretty easy to make, most of it is some 3" x 2" timber.

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2013, 08:18:32 PM »
Thanks for the tip Diana.  Have been working on getting Larkspur stuff for a while, but I won't hijack the thread so I'll zip it.

Glen, on the 208 Sig Sqn site I saw the Commonwealth Brigade Crown Tacsign and I saw the Number 1 on the Signals plate (white over blue).   I also saw another vehicle with a 1 on solid red.  Would be a Battalion vehicle then maybe.
(the vehicle pictured in front of a temple/pogoda)

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2013, 08:42:05 PM »
A plain red tac is Infantry.  You then have to decode the serial to the regiment/battalion.

Didn't sigs units often use the serial of the infantry regiment to which they were attached, like the RAEME/REME do with their LAD?
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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2013, 09:51:34 PM »
You're most likely correct Diana in the fact that the figure One would refer to the one entire Battalion organisation plus attachments as a 1/3rd part of the Brigade.    Anyway, gives me food for thought re my Series 2 FFW similiar to the questions that started the thread. 
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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2013, 11:08:27 PM »
Hi Glen, it's dark in the post but it's actually Royal Blue in real life. I got the info for the TACs from photos of vehicles in Malacca (during The Emergency) at the time and my brother-in-law who served in 208 Sigs as a Sergeant. When I asked about his role..."did yer get shot at?" answer..."we were protected by armed men but it was mostly beer and bbqs!!!" Knowing my b-in-law he'd've had a good time of it

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #55 on: July 24, 2013, 11:43:26 PM »
Diana , just in relation to your question regarding units attached to Battalions , etc.

My understanding is a sig det attached to a battalion is not part of the battalion and would have the Tac Signs of the Signal Squadron it belongs to. A battalion LAD would use the battalion Tac Signs as it is part of Admin Coy.

A unit with a Workshop such as a transport Company,Engineer Squadron , Armd squadron / Regiment, then they would have  the unit designation with the Blue, Red, and Yellow of the RAEME .

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2013, 11:52:31 PM »
Thanks Mick

I was pretty sure about the RAEME using the serial over their own RAEME colours, so thought it may be the same for sigs.

Would a group of signalers as small as a squad attached to a company rather that a battalion still wear their unit serial and sigs tac?
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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2013, 12:14:58 AM »
A battalion has its own sig platoon which provides commas within the battalion, these soldiers are infantry corpses and belong to Support Coy. A sig det , 3 or 4 sig corpses soldiers commanded by a corporal provide comms from the battalion to the Brigade HQ, so to answer your question. No, a sig det from the brigade Sig Squadron would not be attached to a company.

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2013, 03:55:27 AM »
Thanks Mick
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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2013, 02:09:06 PM »
Hey Diana,
Adding to my last post, the sig det would deploy with Battalion Headquarters , in their own FFR, the soldiers and vehicle would belong to the Bridgade Signals Sqn, such as 104 Sig Sqn, etc. their vehicle would have the Signal Squadrons unit tac plates.

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