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Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: March 20, 2013, 11:53:24 PM »
Hello, I am in the process of doing up my series 3 1/4 ton GS over here in the UK.  I am in need of the Federal standard paint code as my local paint makers does not have a clue about the australian paint codes. Can anybody help me.

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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2013, 12:41:55 AM »
Not sure it will be available in the UK however you may find it under British Leyland paint codes as the vehicles were originally supplied in a slightly different colour to the Camouflage green applied by the Army in service.

The Series IIa vehicles have a "National Stock Number" Sometimes referred to as NATO Stock Number of NSN 8010-66-025-5002 but whether that translates to a paint formula in the UK is unknown.

The next best option is to send you a paint swatch and you can have it colour matched locally.

Just one note, the Australian Army didn't use 1/4 ton SIII Land Rovers and our SIII 3/4 ton had the SIII 1 Ton chassis with both the standard height suspension setting and the raised setting used for 9.00 16 tyres in the UK.
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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2013, 08:24:23 AM »
Well, that's not quite correct, there was a very small number (less than 6 I think) swb series 3's about.  but they are somewhat like hens teeth, and we have no original photos of them in service as reference (and they were RAAF as nothing is in the army ledgers)
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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2013, 08:36:56 AM »
So the swb series were same spec as the lwb ones?
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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2013, 09:21:55 AM »
Well, that's not quite correct, there was a very small number (less than 6 I think) swb series 3's about.  but they are somewhat like hens teeth, and we have no original photos of them in service as reference (and they were RAAF as nothing is in the army ledgers)
Hi Phoenix

So what you're actually saying is that I am correct in that the Australian Army didn't use 88" SIII but the RAAF did have 6 unknown spec 88"?

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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2013, 02:57:42 PM »
 ::)  Yes, Quite right!   :P ;D
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2013, 03:25:18 PM »
Were they the SIII we saw some piccys of with cut guards? 

Were they FFR, like Ian Patrick's wide headlamp SIIa?   8)

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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2013, 03:41:27 PM »
I seem to recollect that some other branches of the Australian government fleet used similarly sourced vehicles. Survey and DCA are two that come to mind. The DCA vehicles were very similar but the bucket protectors around the tail light clusters accommodated three lights, (indicator, stop/tail and reverse) rather than the two light system the army used. Some of these buckets also had holes cut out on the sides of them to show indicators from the side.
In the early days these vehicles would have had a red 'C" registration plate but this was later replaced by the red "Z".
Many of the early vehicles in use at Woomera including those used by Len Beadell had "C" registration plates.
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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2013, 09:15:32 AM »
Diana, yes, that was the ones.  I have no data as ti of they were FFR or not, I presume not, but that is only a hunch, nothing more.

I have some information somewhere stating that some series 3 88 Army spec vehicles were built,but as I said, a very small number.
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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2013, 10:36:41 PM »
Thanks for all the help. I have managed to get hold of a couple of tac plates so I will try and get the paint matched.

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2013, 08:11:02 AM »
I seem to recollect that some other branches of the Australian government fleet used similarly sourced vehicles. Survey and DCA are two that come to mind. The DCA vehicles were very similar but the bucket protectors around the tail light clusters accommodated three lights, (indicator, stop/tail and reverse) rather than the two light system the army used. ...
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Perhaps the Australian Army didn't want to admit that it retreats!   ;D

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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2013, 01:57:07 AM »
jdack1,

Send me a PM with your postal address. I have a spare Australian lusterless paint reference swatch I can send you.

But I wonder why would you want to make your S3 1/4 ton an Australian vehicle when their use in/by that country was so rare?

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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2013, 06:26:53 PM »
as far as i am aware most of the light gs fleet for the airforce were toyota except for ADG and OSU however woomera was control by a different department and had service personnel attached to it ie weapons trial unit and a Pand E detachment

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Re: Paint again!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2013, 08:30:59 AM »
I'm confused, the RAAF has quite a number of land rover 4x4 and 6x6.  Lat time I was at RAAF East Sale there were a number about the place in RAAF plates (and no, no phots, they were not allowed)
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2013, 10:43:38 AM »
from 1999 the airforce started to increase thier vehicle fleet in particular lr fleet except for specialised units ie adg and raaftus ie parakeet 38and 35 sq who also had 2 suzuki jimmies  vehicles most raaf units had a few mainly for driver trainer after 1989 the airforce went out and bought civil variants pf the defender for working dog teams. they were not part of the perentile fleet they were just cl vehicles.

the army was responsible for both 110 and the unimogs 1750 the airforce had (RPS and fleet management the unimogs the airforce held were a different model because they were bought after th army contract had  been finalised.

adg had the bulk of them with both 35 38 sq had a couple and 1 cls in tville had some and base sq amb had 1 for driver trainingand and specialised units. after the reorg in 1999-2000 to ecss they upgraded the fleet to include of the shelf Macks scania as did the army

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