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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2013, 10:34:24 AM »
The S2 gunbuggy 111660 belongs  to School of Armour at Puckapunyal, (according to the Tac signs - the "9" signifies a school and the next two numbers tell you which one) and even though a lot of people who spent time there reckoned that  it felt like South Vietnam it was really in Victoria! Not only that but the uniforms being worn date it to pre Vietnam, boots AB and gaiters, and going by the beautifully squarely stuffed old Brit pattern packs I would hazard a guess and say it was a PR shot from the early 60's.
Those steel helmets were just newly issued around the time of that shot, and as it turned out they were an item very rarely seen on an Aussie's head in South Vietnam. They cut hearing ability down perceivably and also made a lot of noise hitting branches in the bush, as well as offering a very easily distinguishable outline (remember the golden rule - SSSSSM) hence the ragged old giggle hat came into its own. Having said that I must admit that our convoy escort gunbuggy crew usually wore them, or at lest the inners, as protection from the ejected hot shell casings from the M60,  usually over the driver and sometimes the passenger as well.
But I must add that once the fibreglass inner had been removed, they made a great receptacle for cooking amassed rat pack packets of soup and you could easily feed a section from one helmet full!
All the other shots of gunbuggies on convoy duty are of either 111578 (87) or 110807 (1 Pl.)
Just as a point of interest I was wondering where you found the first lot of shots as the only place I have publicly shown them was on the old REMLR site! Well most of them were mine anyway, not quite all. They are all of 87 Transport Platoon and they aren't even posted on our own site.
There was quite a conversation re the DBG land rover years ago, as in some were wondering whether it was painted black for some reason. It in actual fact carries RAAF plates.

Ross, in the last shot of that particular bracket, the one of the convoy lined up behind the gunbuggy, the bloke on the MG looks a heck of a lot like "our mate". I am not saying it is definitely him but I am pretty sure it is. I know that he did quite a few trips in that position. When you talk to him next, ask about the convoy when he forgot the M60 ammo!!!!!  ::)
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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2013, 02:16:18 PM »
The image with "any info on this one!' I was never there but would say it's 'Luscombe' airfield Sth Vietnam, possibly with the Long Hai hills in the background, I'm sure ZD can confirm that though cheers Dennis

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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2014, 12:43:59 PM »
Here's anew photo from the AWM website - and look what they've done -an ability to have a full size:
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P02975.009/?image=1&fullscreen=true

Here it is a regular size


The detail in the full size is very good. This 9RAR at Nui Dat, Kapyong pad. The trees or plantation lines in the background look familiar.

Between the skids under the Huey... is that some plating/armour?

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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2014, 12:57:19 PM »
Another, ambulances:
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P04656.998/?image=1&fullscreen=true

You can see the patients in situ, 108-650 and another, likely to be 114-557 from the image. So far I have no info on whether 114-557 was on the VTF.
Feb 1970. 1 Field Hosp.
"Diggers being loaded into ambulances to be transferred to a RAAF Medevac flight to Australia from the Vung Tau Air Base.
"This was the fourth largest ever to leave Vietnam with Australian and New Zealand wounded and sick. A total of 24 litter cases and 12 walking cases were on the flight. Most of the casualties had come from the heavy contacts involving 8th Battalion, The Royal Australian Regiment (8RAR) in the Long Hai hills, 10 miles south east of the 1st Australian Task Force Base (1ATF). The enemy suffered 39 killed and an unknown number of wounded in the contacts, while Australian casualties were two 2 killed and 18 wounded. "

On our record we have
"NSW. VTF. SAL. Capstan winch. 'Sand, Surgery, Saigontea' photo p84. 8 Field Ambulance.
Archive Photo, Vietnam x 2
To be reduced for parts at 2BOD in 67 (SVN??). Taken off the books in 72 or 73??
Duplicate chassis number, Likely that 111-973 was broken down to parts for this vehicle
Came back to Australia on HMAS Jeparit in Deptember 1971 (Ref Michael Cecil: Mud and Dust). Bob Bald Photos"

We can add: AWM R553/5/4/40 Jeparit voy ex-Syd 20aug71 - RTA alloc 2BOD Sydney
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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2014, 02:34:47 PM »
More likely to be 108-111 as it is 1 of the 6 ambulances that went to SVN (and only 6).   112-240, 112-225, 108-111, 108-650, 113-917 and 114-198.

That series of photos shots shots from a few angles that day.

which arn does the notation "AWM R553/5/4/40 Jeparit voy ex-Syd 20aug71 - RTA alloc 2BOD Sydney"belong to?
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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2014, 03:12:47 PM »
The note is for 108-650.

Their were more than 6 Ambulances. The others just didn't have ARNs :)

In August 1971 the Dept of Supply/Australian Embassy sent over 5 LR Amb to Saigon on the Jeparit via 2AOD. SVN aid (along with qty drums of electric cable and 30 assault craft with outboards). AWM 312/R553/5/4/40

The photo somewhere on dockside or on deck showing the a group of ambulances (looking down on them?) without roof beacons could be them. Or did the beacons come off to get into the holds of the Jeparit? I'm guessing.

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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2014, 03:24:42 PM »
The numbers I was running from was if I recall, Mud and dust quoted 6 (I have to double check that now that I think about it) and we only have record of 6.  Also, speaking with the 1 Field Hospital transport NCO he confirmed that they only had I think 5 and one in storage at the depot.
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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2014, 03:30:10 PM »
Why can't I find that document at the AWM.  their search can be annoying at times.

If you look at the bloodbox page http://remlr.com/ARN/ARNs_bloodboxes.php you will see a lot were noted as being purchased by the department of defence, or  Dept of Foreign Affairs and nothing further was ever seen of any of them.   I'm not sure how the vehicles sent in aid were accounted for to be honest.  To my knowledge though, only 6 australian ones went over, which is somewhat contrary to the view that was held some time back that dozens went.  If they did the paperwork hasn't shown up to prove that they did, nor the photographs.

A bit like the mythical 2L engined command recons. 
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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2014, 03:46:19 PM »
I have had some more looking and I'm more convince its 108-111

I'm checking the pics of Gunbuggies for the bigger versions and the ARNs....

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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2014, 03:47:57 PM »
Bigger versions of a lot of the photos would be fantastic!  however they may just be providing more zoom, and not higher quality on the existing ones, and scanning newer ones in at a higher resolution.  Every photo tells a thousand words of a story though!
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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2014, 03:50:49 PM »
114-017
http://static.awm.gov.au/images/collection/items/ACCNUM_SCREEN/P00869.075.JPG

Those little radio sets look good... but, I din't know, probably beaten by a hong kong $30 walky talky now.

113-078
http://static.awm.gov.au/images/collection/items/ACCNUM_SCREEN/P01404.017.JPG

and could their date be wrong on 113-078. There is no wiper mtr on the w'frame. They say its 1966, but suffix C (they were a mixed bag) was when the mtr moved to the tray. So either its a brand new unit... or..

I'm looking at the tray paint wear....and the "interior" mirror has been snapped off. (also, for my build, it still has the cute round side mirrors.

And I see they have left the left and right top corner plates (R330622/3) on the windscreen.

The big versions are good. Talk about trainspotting...
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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2014, 04:21:05 PM »
Can't get the ARN out of this Series 2, 1RAR.

111-459?

http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P01595.034/?image=1&fullscreen=true

FFW, no gardening tool brackets.

And this one..

112-806

http://www.awm.gov.au/collection//P01657.017.JPG/?image=1&fullscreen=true

5RAR, that BWD has a Pig on it...

this one, just for the Chrissy tree ornament on the bonnet spare bracket.
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P01706.022.JPG/?image=1&fullscreen=true


112-981 -its got to be an 8
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P01353.036.JPG/?image=1&fullscreen=true

At a gate post.... "No Vehicles something or other"
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P01353.036.JPG/?image=1&fullscreen=true

113-504
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P02465.003.JPG/?image=1&fullscreen=true

Always wanted to make it a desktop pic:


113-854 workshop
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/FOR/66/0732/VN/?image=1&fullscreen=true

No rear ARN plate, Tankies helper
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/BEL/69/0434/VN/?image=1&fullscreen=true

113-823 - what is that on the brushguard?
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/EKN/69/0002/VN/?image=1&fullscreen=true

113-984
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/EKN/69/0064/VN/?image=1&fullscreen=true

172-158 "A JEEP, NUMBER 55/276 (REGISTRATION PLATE NUMBER 172 158) IS PARKED IN THE VIP CAR PARK" says the AWM.
What is that unit tac 55 over 276?
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/FAI/70/0208/VN/?image=1&fullscreen=true

Classic barge photo, VTF RTA 3RAR 6oct71, and that left just 4RAR remaining there. I see that Gun Buggy a bit better, and I see a 109 HT in olive drab.
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/FOD/71/0507/VN/?image=1&fullscreen=true
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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2014, 11:03:09 AM »
Here is a photo at Saigon HQ compound, 70-71. ARN 172-461 with 410 HQ tacs.

The red rat is there, I had the impression it was only for the earlier 65-66-67 years. The bumper has white across the whole length.

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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2014, 02:40:05 PM »
113-823 - what is that on the brushguard?
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/EKN/69/0002/VN/?image=1&fullscreen=true

823, 833 or 873 do you think though?
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Re: A few Pictures from Vietnam ( land rovers )
« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2014, 02:54:13 PM »
When you enlarge it the top looks to be a sharp angle that would be a 7 not 2 or 3 :) and the sign on the brush guard looks to be in Vietnamese ;D
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