Gunbuggy ARNs & Photos

[Cliffy]

Too much spare time?
I got a LRPV and alot of sandpaper!

[Tommy]

On the old REMLR forum, the following photo of a Gunbuggy created some discussion in relation to it's ARN. After some valued opinions, it was decided that this Gunbuggies ARN was 110-501.

I now have a better quality photo that clearly shows the ARN as 110-506 . I have amended the ARN and posted this 'new' photo into post #4 of this thread.

Old photo.



New photo.

[Tommy]

Will take some images during the daytime, these ones I have had for a while, you can see the main bolt hole through the top rail, which seems very similar to a bracket I thought you posted some time ago.


Are you suggesting that the bracket is affiliated with the MG setup? If so, it surely must have an attachment to the top or front of the bulkhead for added strength. What does the bracket look like after the windscreen has been removed?

This is the Gunbuggy with the similar bracket 112-245. The dark fixture to the top of the bracket may be a simple rudimentary piece of 25mm water pipe or a home made platform bracket for the M60. It looks as if it may be in a vertical nose down position.

[Tommy]

This second (poor) image shows the hole the bracket was bolted through the grab rail.  There is a second rail that I feel may have been added post service as there was a similar item on Numpty's buggy.

I notice that Gunbuggy 110-849 has a very similar hole in it's dash. Same size and position but around 20cms to the right of yours. If you can gain access to this vehicle, it might pay to have a close look at this hole and any other associated holes. May give some idea of a MG setup.

[digger]

This second (poor) image shows the hole the bracket was bolted through the grab rail.  There is a second rail that I feel may have been added post service as there was a similar item on Numpty's buggy.

I notice that Gunbuggy 110-849 has a very similar hole in it's dash. Same size and position but around 20cms to the right of yours. If you can gain access to this vehicle, it might pay to have a close look at this hole and any other associated holes. May give some idea of a MG setup.

Isnt that hole a long way further right than on Diana's GB?

Cheers and loving the thread
Digger

[zulu delta 534]

Most military GS vehicles including gun buggies have the hole in the dash that is pointed out by the arrow in the shot of 110 849 as it is a standard hole on a militarily modified 6005, drilled to receive a captive nut used to secure the added dash panel that carries the map light, map light switch and fuel gauge switch to the left of the original Rover dash panel, (missing on the vehicle in the photograph!). There should also be a hole in the bottom rail that secures the bottom edge of this panel as well.
112 722, Onslow has the remains of a swing away MG mount fitted to the left side of the firewall, bolted on where the door hinges originally fitted, but so far I haven't been able to find any supporting photos on the subject. One of the bods here at our local RSL was the Support Comany Sgt (first tour) and WO (2nd Tour) with Anti tank Platoon with 6 RAR and knows Onslow pretty well. I am pumping him for info.
Regards
Glen

[firey]

Here is a picture of the firewall in question, you can clearly see the hole.

Peter

[Tommy]

112 722, Onslow has the remains of a swing away MG mount fitted to the left side of the firewall, bolted on where the door hinges originally fitted, but so far I haven't been able to find any supporting photos on the subject. One of the bods here at our local RSL was the Support Comany Sgt (first tour) and WO (2nd Tour) with Anti tank Platoon with 6 RAR and knows Onslow pretty well. I am pumping him for info.

Glen

Can you post up a photo or two of the mount remains showing area around front and rear of bulkhead/dash?

[Tommy]

Here is a picture of the firewall in question, you can clearly see the hole.
Peter

Peter

I notice that there are no lower holes for the panel. It would seem that this Gunbuggy was never fitted with a panel.

[zulu delta 534]

The top Right hand hole which is the larger of them all, if I remember correctly is used in a GS (and civvy 2 and 2a) vehicles to locate the panel that houses the vent controls. In a gunbuggy of course the vents are sealed in the closed position and the wipers relocated, therefore this hole wouldn't have been used in a S2 buggy.
Onslow only has the one screw in his map light panel on the top and it utilises this hole. There are two on the bottom. Daisy the 88"GS uses two holes, one sharing the vent control panel, and the other to the left hand side of the panel.
Onslow my gunbuggy has a pipe (swivel) mounted on the door hinge nuts (captive in the firewall) and on this was mounted an arm that came across the vehicle to a position in front of the crewie in the left seat, where there was another swivel upon which the GPMG mount was fitted. This is the best shot I have of what remains of it today and its raining at the moment, and I am not going to get soaked just for you Stuart, you will have to make do with this one.

My firewall, when I got the vehicle (first rego out of service) had one hell of a depression in the centre where the constant pounding of the 106 barrel over the most of its life had bent it into a banana shape.  Not only was the top rail bent but the support under the barrel lock had transferred the impact to the lower level. Possibly one of the reasons that it was converted to a MG vehicle in its later portion of its 32 year service life. A bit of a job to straighten it all up.
Regards
Glen

[DennisM]

G'day All,
If we are talking about 110-849, it wouldn't have had a map light panel as it was originally a S2 C/R, my S2 C/R is ARN 110-850 cheers Dennis

[Tommy]

I found this photo showing the same hole on Richard Os Gunbuggy 112-337.

[firey]

Here is better picture of the bracket on Onslow.

Peter

[Tommy]

The MG bracket shown on the Gunbuggy above shows that it is secured by two bolts through the vent. My thoughts are that the two bolts holding your vent closed are the bolts that originally held the MG bracket in place. Same position and size  .

Stuart

[Tommy]

I am absolutely positive that your Buggy had exactly the same MG bracket. MG bracket holes always had vibration damage no matter how tight they were done up.

Stuart