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Offline john.k

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2022, 03:24:18 PM »
The stock T35 box will be best,as its likely very low milage ........its the same as the 1820 butterbox ,the 1840 butterbox has a T54 box,much bigger ,and not synchro........any of these gearboxes plus the stock housing fit a Perkins 354 with an IH flywheel housing.

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2022, 08:57:28 AM »
wich gearbox is better the stock one or butterbox??

I haven't driven a civilian International, but I can say that there is nothing wrong with the AACO gearboxes, whichever model you buy.

If you get one with a petrol engine, I think this vehicle would be an ideal candidate for an LPG conversion. The tanks could be disguised if necessary somewhere on the machine. Petrol at over $2/litre, is becoming too ridiculous to consider anymore.

In an earlier post you asked about the petrol engine's reliability. I drove them for 5 years in the Army Reserve and the only troubles I had were;
1. Fuel vaporisation on hot days. This could be fixed by using an electric pump near the tanks.
2. Radiator fan bending the water pump shaft and destroying the radiator. This was apparently a common problem and could be fixed by; substituting a lightweight modern fan; or removing it completely and using thermatic fans.

Brake parts can be re-conditioned when they wear out, by sleeving cylinders and re-lining shoes. The air side of the brake-system I know little about.

Good luck with your search,

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2022, 04:56:48 PM »
In my experience ,fan hits radiator because water pump bearings are allowed to fall to pieces......if the bearings are loose ,then water gets into them,and whole ball bearing fails completely......the 282 motors eliminate one of the problems with the 281s,and that is exhaust valves last 4x longer .....because the valve train has slow roto exhaust rotation,and also sodium cooled exhaust valves ...may also have hard insert seats,dont rememebr..............I picked up my last container of ACCO bits from the other yard ,had to dump 5 ton of stuff so the container could be moved on a tilt ...max 9 ton.......I had to dump lots of the heavy stuff like GM parts and IH TD15B parts......anyhoo,so far the council havent demanded the container be moved,so I live in hope.............had a guy chasing the TD15 stuff,.too bad ..........if you want something come around with cash......Im not packing and sending anyhting bigger than a carby kit.

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2022, 11:31:54 AM »
Hey guys, been lurking this site, finally decided to post and say hi.

Hey.

So i'm looking to purchase an ex military mk3 so i can build a motorhome on the back. I am considering an engine swap, however the 282 runs pretty good for an old girl. just want to ask how reliable these motors are? what are the benefits of a perkins/cummins/diesel/ev/whatever swap? What are the gold diamonds worth? is there a market for them?

 a 2 speed diff an option? In a vehicle that has more than one diff don't even consider using a 2 speed item because if the diffs don't shift at exactly the same time major damage will most likely occur

also there is a problem in the airline, and apparently an actuator is needed, is this a common problem?

also do they share many parts from the civillian accos?

is it sacrilegious to heavily modify these or am i better off leaving the truck unmolested as a collectors item?

i know these are alot of questions and may have already been answered, but any help would be muchly appreciated

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2022, 10:45:55 PM »
In fact ,back in the day when people used the ACCOs for work,i did fit a few two speed diffs to them ........No 4 Eatons ,for which you can still buy gearsets in ratios you want..........for the ACCOs ,its the 5.14 gears,which gives 7.14 in low ,which matches the front.........obviously any experienced truck driver isnt going to make a stupid mistake of having the rear in the wrong gear engaging front drive ........In my experience ,a 2 speed diff is worth an extra 10 mph average speed .....Ive also fitted No 3 Eatons to the 1600 4x4s ,with similar result.

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2023, 01:16:05 PM »
Does anyone know if a dt466 would fit!? I know I may be dreaming

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2023, 08:12:05 PM »
Hello Acco Motor Home,

There is a mob on Facebook whose site is just about International AA, AB, C & D Series Australia/NZ  https://www.facebook.com/groups/1199233436757941 I reckon they might to be able to answer your question about whether a DT466 would fit. A number of them have the Mark Army Internationals too. Or just bog standard civilian Accos

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2023, 09:55:56 AM »
Thank you everyone for the advice its muchly appreciated!
I have bought one, just need to get it transported I'm broke after christmas and struggling to find some work. She has a perkins (bit tired, struggling to fire up. The guy I bought it from swapped his perkins and gearbox from his motorhome converted mk4, it's been all over australia) mainly wondering if it's worth rebuilding the perkins and gearbox or just finding a replacement. I'm a diesel fan because I want to do a veggie oil conversion.

1hz? Not enough power?

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2023, 02:33:13 PM »
Hello Acco Motor Home,

There are still a lot of parts for the Perkins 6354 available - this includes full rebuild kits which include new piston sleeves. So as long as your main block is structurally and mechanically sound you could come out with the equivalent of a new motor.

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2023, 03:56:20 PM »
Any idea on what a perkins rebuild would cost? I understand the perks of a perkins, but just wouldn't mind a little more power

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2023, 11:02:29 PM »
Hello,

An alternative to the Perkins was an Isuzu 6BD1. Since then there are more modern incarnation of the 6BD1. Rebuild kits for either the Perkins 6354 and the Isuzu 6BD1 are still available via eBay. Parts for the more modern version of the 6BD1 would be even more readily available - because they are not so old. The issue will be finding an adapter plate for the gearbox - or getting one manufactured.

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Re: 6-282
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2023, 11:13:56 PM »
Hello,

There is also an old thread on this forum about the Isuzu conversion - please see .... https://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=2400.msg23265#msg23265 There have not been any new contributions to that thread for years though.

Before the Isuzu 6BD1 there was the Isuzu 6BB1. We are back to the very early part of your posts about alternative engines. To find out more just go to the "Search" Box here on this forum and type in either 6BB1 or 6BD1 and it will find all the times these two engines have been referred to.

I suppose what is the best engine replacement depends on the depth of your pockets.

I went with the Perkins option because the Perkins motors were a factory option for the bigger versions of my truck - so too were the Cummins diesel. If I had the opportunity to go back and investigate the options more broadly before I had bought anything - I would have gone with the Isuzu version.  Hindsight is a very wonderful thing!

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