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Offline Dragon Wagon

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ARN 113-244 SWB Vietnam Veteran
« on: September 23, 2016, 04:26:37 PM »
Recently came upon this in quite good shape. Interestingly is fitted with overdrive, which I hear you say may well be a coincidence, but for unusual part cut away army guards, but cut away at the front only a bit like a gun buggy. Was the army experimenting with overdrives, as well as larger 9:00 tyres which I seem to recall as one reason for cutting the guards on the 2A? Thanks.
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Re: ARN 113-244 SWB Vietnam Veteran
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2016, 07:14:56 PM »
Any photos?

Overdrive No not in service. 900 tyres not sure,

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Re: ARN 113-244 SWB Vietnam Veteran
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2016, 08:04:48 PM »
Seem to recall reading the army were looking to improve roadspeed and economy and were experimenting at one stage with the 2A. There were a few getting around with 9:00x16 tyres around the time of them being auctioned off.

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Re: ARN 113-244 SWB Vietnam Veteran
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2016, 08:53:56 PM »
There was a S3 model with 9.00 16 tyres. The 1 ton Landrover.

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Re: ARN 113-244 SWB Vietnam Veteran
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2016, 09:04:16 PM »
Except that brochure is for the Series IIa 1 Ton.

The 1 Ton models were essentially the same chassis as the Oz military SIIa and SIII but in the case of the SIIa with the civvy rear cross member).  the SIIa had ENV 4.7:1 diffs ex-SIIa 109 forward control models as well as low ratio all helical transfer box, low ratio steering box and 3"wide front brakes also ex-109FC/

The SIII 1 Ton had Salisbury front and rear but the front Sals was deleted mid production.  The all helical transfer was continued but with the all synchro main gearbox.

As for the 9.00 tyres on Oz military Landies, this was part of the original planning and the reason the Oz military had the raised suspension chassis, However the design anticipated a different gearbox and transfer which never went into production.   I think you will find references to that part of the design development in the section on the website dedicated to the SII/SIIa ambulance.

As for the cut guards See John Bamford's comments at http://remlr.com/john-bamford.html
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John was also able to shed some light onto the reason why the Australian Army Land Rovers adopted the square cut guards instead of retaining the normal rounded ones.

        I can tell you exactly why the mudguards were changed, because I was responsible for the change. ...

... The idea of the cut away mudguards was to make it much easier to get around the tyres and into the mudguard recesses to dig such soil out. The cut away mudguards were then introduced in all the Australian Army Land Rovers.
The cut guards are not required for the 9.00 tyres because neither of the 1 Ton models have cut guards.
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Re: ARN 113-244 SWB Vietnam Veteran
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2016, 09:06:24 PM »
Not split rims either. Whilst some websites claim mud to be the reason for cutting the guards, another claimed reason is clearance with the proposed fittment of the bigger tyres.
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Re: ARN 113-244 SWB Vietnam Veteran
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2016, 05:15:39 AM »
What may well have been enough clearance for use in the mother country, may have turned out insufficient for the use us colonials put them through!