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Front TAC plates - photos of
« on: September 06, 2016, 02:58:15 PM »
Hello Folks,

My Mk3 is missing its front TAC plates i.e. the plate holders mounted on the front of the Mk3's bonnet. 

I don't imagine I will have much trouble bending some up, but I don't have anything to go by i.e. photos, dimensions, etc. 

I have a template for the bolt spacings i.e. the bolts that held the TAC plates are bolted to the bonnet still. 

Could someone help me out and post some dimensions and photos please??

Or maybe someone has some front one lying around that they don't need??

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,

Tom

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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2016, 08:23:17 PM »
Hi Tom

The original Mk3 front holders had a tab at the top same as the WWII blitz trucks, some later ones were square/flat at the top and later ones had a scallop out of the top to get a hold of the plate for removal.  The Unimogs still have the same size holders with the same bolt pattern.

Last time I was there Tim Vibert of Empire Trading had a few in a box (and lots of Land Rover size SIIa type). http://www.timvibert.com.au/

Chazza on this forum does excellent repros of the rear ones and may even do the front ones.

Diana
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 08:24:52 PM by Diana Alan »
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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2016, 08:35:52 PM »
On another thought, Carolyn (Mrs ho har) and Harry at  Logan Village have a Mk3 cab which is being dismantled. I seem to remember the front holders are still attached, probably rusty as the rest of the cab is rusting away.
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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2016, 10:25:54 PM »
Here's a pic I took in 76 (just throwing it in - not exactly a close up).

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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2016, 08:36:26 AM »
I can make the holders for you Tom, if you can't find any,

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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2016, 07:46:00 PM »
In case you want to have a go at making your own, here are a couple of pics of my holders off the front of the F1 & the MK3.
The MK3 is the one with the tab at the top. And the rust.



Sizes.
The one off the F1 is exactly 220mm across. It is 230mm high. From the outer edge to the inner lip of the folded in edge is 13mm, so 1/2". The thickness, front to back, across that same folded edge is 6.8mm, but you would be best off making it to suit whatever thickness sheet you cut your tac plates out of.
As for the corners of the folded bits, they are cut at 45 angles and start 1/2" in from where the corner would be if it wasn't trimmed off.
The bottom hole is exactly 32mm up from the bottom edge. The dimples are 25mm wide at the bottom and 42mm wide at the top. They are 6mm deep.
The top 2 dimples are 101mm apart, centre to centre.
The distance between the bottom dimple, (centre) and a line drawn horizontally between the top 2 is 95mm.

The MK3 holder measures the same.
The tab at the top is 51mm wide at the base. The width at the top where the corners are trimmed is 34mm wide. The tab is 13mm high.
There is no bend or kink at the top, so not sure what use the tab actually is.

Both holders are made out of 1.35mm sheet.

Hope that helps. Let me know if you need any more measurements.

Greg.

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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2016, 09:43:57 PM »
Thank you to everyone for the help, suggestions, offers, dimensions, and photos!!  That's what makes this forum such a valuable resource; fellow members who just want to see as many of these amazing trucks continue to be used and enjoyed!!

I'll have a go at bending some up - I think the biggest challenge will be recessing the bolt holes, but will try some heat and press them for starters.

Will keep you posted.

Kind regards,

Tom




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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2016, 09:34:52 AM »
Tom pressing the recesses is the way to go, make up a the two halves of a pressing die centred by a drilled hole.  But my suggestion would be to ask Chazza to make them up, he already has the dies and does an excellent job.

If necessary and he doesn't already have them I can send him a F1 or Unimog era holder and he can add the Mk3 tab.
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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2016, 06:43:11 PM »
Have just PM'd Chazza about the TAC plate holders, thanks Diana!!

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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2016, 11:55:46 AM »
Done  :)

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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2016, 08:49:04 PM »
Looking really good.
I just checked my MK3 and the bolts used to hold them on were 1/4".
The holes in the holders were a bit worn and oversized, but the ones through the fibreglass bonnet were around 6.5mm, either drilled oversized to account for minor errors or just a bit worn.

The holes in the holders off my F1 vary from 7.5mm to 8.8mm. I can't find the bolts just now but I think they were larger and the nuts were captured as the holders screw through the front panel instead of through the bonnet like on the MK3.

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Re: Front TAC plates - photos of
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2016, 08:52:50 PM »
Hello Folks,

This is a big shout out to Chazza for his great work manufacturing my new front TAC plate holders. 

Really impressed with his workmanship and how quick he did it.

Thanks Chazza!!

Kind regards,

Tom