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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #225 on: February 15, 2019, 08:34:57 PM »
Hi Dennis, I am trying to install the HW setup with an insulated tank and using quality hose and brass Reece barbs etc. We'll see if it goes better.

Also, more on the work under the hood aka bonnet...

I am removing the standard coolant overflow tank and replacing it. KLR have it as a kit and say the std tank is useless. The only way to check the radiator level reliably is to undo the largish bolt on top of the thermo housing (apparently)..

Also, Wayne and I (both KLR turbo) in Canberra and Scott (N/A) in Newie have recently experimented with extra air input to the Donaldson air drum. Wayne noticed the extra performance with the end cover off when he had a run without it and quizzed Donaldson about the 3.9 and CFM tables they have. They recommended extra air but how to do that?

My truck had a dead spot similar to Wayne's so I removed my end cover... and the dead spot smoothed out. I gained a bit of power too. My engine has not been dynotuned ever but Wayne's engine was done a few months after his turbo install. Wayne was impressed by the result of extra air but how to do it for little costs and simplicity. There maybe many solutions but in the first weeks of 2019 he came up with an auxiliary inlet using the original end cover and some 51mm exhaust pipe which connects some matching air hose. His standard hose is connected to a quality snorkel and his new auxiliary hose goes forward for some cold air near the radiator on the driver side.

I have fitted my modded end cover and tomorrow auxiliary hose is going to be accommodated after the standard coolant overflow tank is removed. I purchased a NOS-in-box end cover at Corowa swap in 2017 for $10 and it came in useful as things turned out.

These are photos of Wayne's GS engine bay after the mod. Looks like new -truth is, his GS is an absolute showpiece. (My engine bay is not pictured because its downright daggy.)
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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #226 on: February 16, 2019, 10:39:00 AM »
Ross did Wayne dyno before and after to measure amount of improvement.
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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #227 on: February 16, 2019, 11:08:35 AM »
Hi Ross,
Would be very interested to see details and some photos of your hot water set up as I am going to be doing the same thing with a Scintex heat exchanger (eventually).
Just be aware that if you are going to use a tank as hot water storage that it needs to be open vented or if it is pressurized it will need to be a pressure vessel with the appropriate pressure and temperature relief valve fitted.
Would also like to see the details of the new coolant overflow tank.
Cheers Rob

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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #228 on: February 16, 2019, 04:55:06 PM »
Ross did Wayne dyno before and after to measure amount of improvement.

Wayne has the result of the first dyno as a reference. He said he will do a second dyno after another trip up to KLR which will be about exhaust manifold upgrades.

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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #229 on: February 16, 2019, 05:04:48 PM »
Hi Ross,
Would be very interested to see details and some photos of your hot water set up as I am going to be doing the same thing with a Scintex heat exchanger (eventually).
Just be aware that if you are going to use a tank as hot water storage that it needs to be open vented or if it is pressurized it will need to be a pressure vessel with the appropriate pressure and temperature relief valve fitted.
Would also like to see the details of the new coolant overflow tank.
Cheers Rob
Hi Rob, I was going to keep it simple and mount the scintex and the pump under the centre seat box, down in the space behind the LT95. I was thinking of bolting up a old 50cal ammo tin to hold the HE and the pump. The HW storage will need a expansion release and today I have liberated one from under the bonnet. I wonder if it would do the job?

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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #230 on: February 16, 2019, 11:18:51 PM »
Hi Ross,
At your leisure can you give me a little more information regarding your intended tank storage.
Cheers Rob

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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #231 on: February 26, 2019, 11:11:23 PM »
Hi Rob. I have 2 ideas so far for tank position.

1. In the tray for the FFR batteries in the locker on the drivers side. Currently have a RFSV stash box in there for the air compressor. I used to carry the LPG bottle in there. I measured the stash box capacity as 32 litres, which is ok. Refiling the tank would be easy with the hose hidden behind the locker lid. I timed a household shower, turned down to minimal flow. I settled on 1 litre per 15 seconds, 4 litres a minute, as my minimal amount/rate. Less than that does not rate as much of a shower to me but is more like light rain. So, over 5minutes duration, I would need 20 litres of water. Yeah, I know, luxuries and first world problems...

2. The FFR battery tray "rails" are two parallel 40mm RHS bars that sit across the chassis rails, from the left side to the right side. In the centre, between the main chassis ladder, nothing is fitted. Except the tailshaft. There is a load of space (as pointed out by Dave [6x6 camper]) for even a 50 litre tank... but then I'd need a filler hose to be able to get water in it.

So I'm stillllllllllll thinking.

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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #232 on: February 27, 2019, 09:22:48 PM »
Hi Ross,
Yes I have changed my mind on what set up is best many times.  You will be restricted with space and weight but everything is doable to a degree.
I have just had a water tank made that will sit under the tray of the 6x6 that will hold a bit over 400 litres.  Not that I will be filling and carrying the weight all time.  I intend it to be used when going very remote. (work in progress)
Cheers, Rob

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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #233 on: February 28, 2019, 04:40:08 PM »
Thx for the update Rob. I will check your tank at Corowa soon perhaps. 400 litres is 2 "44" drums is it not? Thats long range alright!

In the joblist before Corowa I now have lengthened the list since the whole Heat Exchanger idea:

freshen coolant/anti-freeze
low coolant alarm (see this thread here: http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=6005.0 )
coolant expansion tank upgrade to 300TDi spec

KLR do a kit with quality parts to upgrade the Expansion Tank aka Header Tank aka Coolant Reservoir. A kit presented itself down here and I said yes thanks.

New tank (Bearmach/Europarts) (many after market alternatives out there)
New tank lid (LR genuine)
New hoses to suit (Dayco)
New wormdrive clamps
Fabricated steel T piece, 30mm ID, 1.8mm thick, to fit in the 4BD1 radiator hose.

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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #234 on: February 28, 2019, 09:59:30 PM »
Hi Ross,
I am really interested in the coolant expansion tank upgrade if you happen to get it installed with photos.
I really would like to get to Cowra. Hopefully next year. (Work work work)
Cheers, Rob

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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #235 on: March 11, 2019, 08:57:57 AM »
Dear Diary :) during the week a little job re-organising the console to suit the dog was completed with the help of Stevie and his carpentry skills. We ended up with a neat looking jarrah hardwood drink cup holder for a pair of largish stainless holders. The holders/the wood sits inside a 50cal ammo tin. I don't think it wise to have drinks and the dog in situ simultaneously however. Cheap fix. The console is evolving as they say.

Yesterday the LRCV got some attention after a 2 day effort on the sister FFR 50-169 (Stevie's). Stevie's FFR (slowly) got a new diesel tank after much looking at alternatives. A LR 90 steel tank was fitted. The filters were changed. But the bleeding procedure caused a day of drama. We got air bubbles when cracking the injectors etc but not much fuel and the LR would fail to fire up for longer than 5seconds. Not enough fuel? We had checked the little troublesome bolt/filter under the transfer pump and it was clean. A new hand pump was fitted on the next day, again not much improvemnt. Back to the sedimenter to 'prove' where the fuel was, all the way to the lift pump. During this double check I found a blocked fule line and used a coat hanger wire to clear it (a mud wasp had moved into a fuel line while the LR was tankless). Bled and fired up and then it had an hour or so run w/o drama. For the trip to Corowa the console and CB was refitted, it got a canopy change, and it got a wheel change as well.

So then yesterday our own FFR / LRCV got some TLC.

 A recond. radiator had been waiting about a year to be fitted. It has an Adrad recore not Natrad asian core. At this stage, I sat the radiator on some carpet I filled it up and emptied into a 10 litre bucket to measure how much water it takes to fill the radiator. I did this twice. Both times it was just under 4 litres. Hmmm. The radiator went in all okay. The loose cowl was secured as well.

 The front heater hose, the straight one 6 inches long at the front of the 4BD1, was cut off as it looked ancient, and it was replaced. Ditto the old clamps after using the exposed heater pipe to flush the heater core and the block (used a garden hose).

 The engine saver was fitted (mech part of the job -not electrical part). The install in the top radiator hose, near the radiator mount, was quick.

 The new 300TDi coolant tank was fitted. This required use of two M6 captive nuts and bolts with a center rubber buffer (drilled two M6 holes in the lip of the inside 'guard) and then the third part of the tank mount, the leg downwards from the side closest to the engine, had to be made. The kit does not come with a correctly bent and angled 'leg'. So its a case of getting some aluminium tube, cutting to the length needed, then flattening (hammer) one end then drilling a M8 bolthole on the flat. This will be for the bottom mounting of the leg. I found an existing M10 or m12 bolthole in the steel interior guard, and it was 'in line' for the leg, almost like the factory knew... its down near the chassis rail. The leg was then test fitted to find the right angle to suit the top end of the leg, the plastic tank mount. Then the leg was removed to be flattened at the top end (at the correct angle), drilled for the M6 bolt and then refitted and tightened up. That was it for the tank.

 Next was the steel T piece into the lower radiator hose and the connections to the underside of the tank. Last thing: filling the system and getting any air out. I used the bolt on the top of the thermo housing to completely fill 'er up.

More info once the third FFR arrives from Newie (Scotty) and the drive down to Corowa is done.

ed - pics added
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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #236 on: March 11, 2019, 12:07:30 PM »
Nice job Ross!  Very good read.   
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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #237 on: March 12, 2019, 12:40:38 AM »
Monday -- we arrived at Corowa after sunset. The Hume was busy and about 28deg C today. The engine coolant sat on 80 or 85 by the top of the hills around Gundagai.. The hoses didn't drip. The top up of coolant after a "open the thermostat" wander around local streets (before we set off to Corowa), finished off the second container and therefore a full 10 litres was all in there.

By the way, after a run down our part of the hume hwy, I am confident the extra air hose has made the truck run smoother. Tick the box.

The dog settled in on the console for the drive. That worked out well and I think the arrangement is for the long term - I'm happy with it and the dog doesn't get a vote. See photos below.  Overnight the dog sleeps downstairs on the front seats.

Saturday -- the return trip involved towing a loaded No.5 trailer and the temperature was the same - i.e., 85 up hills and then a cool off on the downside. The trailer was part of the 'Corowa shopping'. Besides the trailer, ARN 176-391, we picked up supplement window covers and mirror covers (windscreen cover in progress), another RFSV schnorkel set, a FFR aerial base and aerial, a FFR Clark mast clamp and base, a CES jack block (NOS), 2 door bottoms (NOS), a YOTHLR dvd, a Mack 6x6 air tank, and a couple of ammo containers. other stuff I will recall when I unpack. Corowa swap is tops.

The supplementary cam for window covers was first seen about a decade ago and then again at Corowa in 2015. The vehicle wearing them was a minty Series 2a blood box restored by an enthusiast in the Maitland area.
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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #238 on: March 25, 2019, 07:12:15 PM »
More info on the drinkcup holders seen above. They're stainless steel from asia on feebay:u 95mm interior diameter. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-x-Stainless-Steel-Cup-Drink-Bottle-Holder-for-Marine-Boat-RV-Camper-Universal/302431417571 which are wide enough for thickshakes and for the best camping mugs ever, the Yeti stainless dbl wall "10oz Lowball". The timber support in the tin was made from sealed/stained jarrah and pine by Stevie. Thanks Stevie for a tiny reminder of what Jags and boats look like on the inside. Very up market. Stevie will take orders on 1300-DIY-DIY. :)

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Re: Perentie Long Range Camping Vehicle - LRCV
« Reply #239 on: April 24, 2019, 05:31:09 PM »
Easter 2019 was a good break although we only went out for a drive on the Sunday, to a local LR Club show 'n shine. See: http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=6042.0

One little job that got done was the etching and painting of the Ibis Troop Scoop Cargo Barrier. The fabricated/folded aluminium barrier was purchased recently. See:  http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=6035.0


One side is flat. The barrier won't get too filthy when travelling as the rear of the canopy will cover it. The flat side could easily be fitted with brackets to hold a snatch strap, or a long-handled wheel brace, etc. As long as the fitted item is thin enough to fit behind the tail of the rear canopy. If the non-flat side faces out (the alternative I prefer) then the barrier could multi-purpose as a cuppa prep-table. It just needs a matching flat piece attached (unpainted on the inside), with hinges at the bottom and a budget lock at the top.

Pics: these show the choice between showing the flat inside "outside" ...and the non-flat inside "inside".
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