Speedo in command recon vehicles

[Ellard]

Hi there

Will have to check mine now - thanks for the information

Wayne

[Uncle Ho]

Most Landrovers post 1953 Series 1 86's were CKD and assembled by PMC at Enfield NSW
all the Aust Army ones were CKD and would carry the PMC plate on the cabin side of the Firewall (Bulkhead in UK speak)

Standard tyre fitment for SWB series vehicles was 600 x 16 tyres on 5.00 inch rims Rover part No R231601 BUT standard Aust Army tyre fitment was 7.50 x 16 on 5.5 inch rims with 1&13/16 offset Rover part No 272309  standard on all 2/2a and No5 trailers,later vehicles had the later Leyland part numbers of AYG-3038 (au)or NRC-7578 (uk) some Aust Army series 3's had ROH--AYG-8108 = 6.00FX-16 inch rims

As for speedos, the listing that I have is Rover Part No R540134  all varients-7.50 x 16 tyres  but that is in the suffix "D" negative Earth vehicle section, the list I have for Positive Earth vehicles up to suffix "C" inclusive is SM,SN3391/03 (miles)Rover R279340 109"& optional 88" fitted with 7.50 x 16 tyres.


cheers

[DennisM]

My CR has a 1408 speedometer, I also have a spare CR speedometer which is the 1400 series, but mine differs from the one Dave showed in his original post, mine has the trip meter which was a std military fitting but an option on a civvie Solihull product of the day.
Also my S2A 88"GS x 3, + Gunbuggy all have 1408 speedometers fitted, I didn't bother checking the bloodbox, I'm too crook cheers Dennis

[firey]

My CR is unrestored and straight from the Army, never civi registered and untouched. The speedo in mine is as pictured a 1504.

And the milage is genuine.

Peter

[110574]

My CR is unrestored and straight from the Army, never civi registered and untouched. The speedo in mine is as pictured a 1504.

And the milage is genuine.

Peter

what size tyres are fitted Peter?

[firey]

7.50 x 16, they to are original and Army marked. The speedo has the original sealant holding it in place.

Peter

[korg20000bc]

7.50 x 16, they to are original and Army marked. The speedo has the original sealant holding it in place.

Peter

Is the sealant Broad Arrow stamped, or something?

[firey]

What I was trying to say it has never been removed from the dash facia.

Peter

[korg20000bc]

I'm not disbelieving you at all but I'm wondering how you can know that for sure.

How can I check my own vehicles to see if their's have never been removed?
Genuinely interested.

[DennisM]

Maybe we will never have a definitive answer to this one, re ? what speedometer was originally fitted to the CR. Basically the S2 CR was just a civvie spec Land Rover with a few added extras, cheers Dennis

[110574]

7.50 x 16, they to are original and Army marked. The speedo has the original sealant holding it in place.

Peter

Is the sealant Broad Arrow stamped, or something?

the sealant is the perished square section rubber ring that was originally fitted i would think.

it has a 6.50x16 speedo and fitted with 7.50x16 tyres

think i agree with dennis, it's a hodge podge and we will never know for sure but it is obvious there are variations...

but still an interesting subject.

[DennisM]

Spot on Dave, we may never know, cheers Dennis
ps the square section rubber 'O' ring/s that hold the instruments in place, deteriorates over a long period of time and ends up acting like a glue making it very difficult to removed said instrument without damage, this also a good indicator to you that it has not been disturbed in a very long time,,.

[Chazza]

My '59 CR has a 1408 speedo.

With reference to Phoenix's post about what is written in the REMLR page, maybe it is time to review what is written about S1 engines in the '58 contract S2's. I think Shonky's research on the AULRO site more or less confirmed that all of the '58 CR's, were '59 models with S2 engines. in any case no physical evidence has ever turned up to show that S1 engines were fitted; or have I missed something?

Cheers Charlie

[wfc1]

Hi Chazza. 2nd post and am on a roll. I apologise in advance for hi-jacking the speedo thread. Chazza your comments about the f head motors in S11 C/R interests me because Shonkey and I had discussions about this subject via email before he made his conclusions. There has not been any 58 models documented except for trial vehicles etc on the remlr lists. The main contract all show 2.2 engine nos. Only a handfull of early 58 models were fitted with the old motor. All of the remlr lists show 1439xxxxxx chassis nos, the 9 denoting the year. I own RAN 143900024 which predates all the army chassis no's, it has a 2.25 motor that shows as the original motor. Technically the army C/R's are 59 models, but that is only my opinion. In over 35 years I have seen very few f head motors in civilian S2's and none in ex-mil vehicles. This is not to say there aren't any that have been converted post service, although with a quick look under the bonnet the 2.2 with the mud guard exiting exhaust could be mistaken for the old S1 motor even though the carb and dizzy are in the wrong spot. Also I have a problem with the army accepting delivery of one-off vehicles with a different motor altogether from the rest off the fleet. An interesting subject this one.

[Richard o]

Had a look at mine today, it has a 1500...

Mine is only a new arms from Daves.

R