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MG armed Land rovers
« on: January 21, 2015, 10:06:17 PM »
Here's a thread for all your armed L/R pics. S1, S2/A, S3 and Perentie.

Here's some from the AWM archives. And a Paul Handel pic.

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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2015, 10:11:59 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2015, 10:14:02 PM »
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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 10:18:04 PM »
This is from MLU.
Is that a M60D normally found on Huey door gunner stations on the land rover?

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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 10:41:36 PM »
AFAIK the M60 on the Gun buggies were the standard issue infantry M60 allocated to the convoy escorts.  If they were the D variant then its an M60D
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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2015, 01:35:49 PM »
Ryan,

The image showing the RCL L/R's does seem to show the M60D, the variant of the M60 which was fitted with spade grips and trigger assembly, rather than a butt and standard trigger assembly. The M60D was manufactured specifically for pintle mounts, be that as helicopter door guns, light marine craft, etc. The RAAF used the M60D on a post-type pintle mount as part of the UH1 series armaments system. The M60D is not listed as a variant in the Australian Army's 1970s EMEI Data Summary and Technical Detail covering the M60.

(The M60C was configured without butt, standard trigger assembly, etc - but with a remote firing mechanism controlled by the pilot. It was specifically for fitting to forward-firing aircraft mounting systems such as the M2 Armament Sub-System (twin mounted  M60C) for the OH-13 Sioux and the M6 quad mount for the UH-1. Neither system was fielded by the RAAF as far as I'm aware.)

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2015, 06:40:43 PM »
Hi Mike

What is the classification of the M60 with bipod and butt used as the infantry support weapon.

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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 03:41:15 AM »
Hi Diana,

I assume you are asking about the Australian designation, and to a certain extent, that depends on what document you happen to be reading. When first introduced in 1962, it was 'GPMG M60'; the 1967 EMEI defines it as 'Gun, Machine, 7.62mm, M60' and the 1975 EMEI calls it 'Machine Gun 7.62mm, M60'. These all refer to the 'standard' weapon, with butt, pistol-grip trigger group, and bipod.

There was no differentiation in nomenclature when fitted to the M122 tripod in the sustained fire role (not that the early weapons delivered to Australia were useful in that regard: too many breakages, leading to some severe testing to ascertain why, and to introduce improvements at design/manufacturer level).

As far as I'm aware, the early design improvements introduced into US production did not change the weapon nomenclature: it was still the M60 when in the 'standard' configuration. A few (very few) instances call the improved version the M60A1, but I don't think that's an official description.


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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 09:42:07 PM »
Cheers Mike, we have an oddity then. I wonder if other photos of it exist.

Another AWM pic.

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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 09:54:37 PM »
and another S2A.

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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 11:45:26 PM »
Ryan,

The image showing the RCL L/R's does seem to show the M60D, the variant of the M60 which was fitted with spade grips and trigger assembly, rather than a butt and standard trigger assembly. The M60D was manufactured specifically for pintle mounts, be that as helicopter door guns, light marine craft, etc. The RAAF used the M60D on a post-type pintle mount as part of the UH1 series armaments system. The M60D is not listed as a variant in the Australian Army's 1970s EMEI Data Summary and Technical Detail covering the M60.

(The M60C was configured without butt, standard trigger assembly, etc - but with a remote firing mechanism controlled by the pilot. It was specifically for fitting to forward-firing aircraft mounting systems such as the M2 Armament Sub-System (twin mounted  M60C) for the OH-13 Sioux and the M6 quad mount for the UH-1. Neither system was fielded by the RAAF as far as I'm aware.)

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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2015, 01:12:03 PM »
SASR trialed this M60 configuration.

Note the original grip and trigger just forward of the makeshift secondary trigger. Triggers linked via steel rod.
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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2015, 09:51:43 PM »
Some more SASR (?) land rovers.

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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2015, 10:24:54 PM »
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Re: MG armed Land rovers
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2015, 10:25:47 PM »
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