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Perentie trial vehicles
« on: March 19, 2014, 08:07:13 PM »
In the Remlr data base we have 37-825  CHASSIS SALLDRAZ1AY400003 as being in Bandianna army museum.

I think this is incorrect I have found this vehicle at Tank museum at Pucka.

Please see photos.

I will be going to Bandianna on Friday so will get chassis number off LU2 and verify it's ARN.

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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2014, 08:09:52 PM »
Some more,

There is a story to how this vehicle was saved but I will leavethat to the person who got it first hand.
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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2014, 08:25:27 PM »
Fantastic photos, thanks Scott!

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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2014, 07:00:17 AM »
Is that setup as an instructional cutaway ?

Will it be restored (to trials standard) or kept as is ?

Thanks scott.

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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2014, 10:30:38 AM »
Known about that one for a little while.  I believe it was set up as an instructional aide.

However I never ticked to the fact that she has the same chassis no listed as the bandiana vehicle. I wonder how that happened.  I presumed that I took the chassis number down by hand on my first visit.  But maybe I got it wrong.  I will try and confirm via the notebook if I can find it or museum.
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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2014, 12:00:07 PM »
Known about that one for a little while.  I believe it was set up as an instructional aide.

However I never ticked to the fact that she has the same chassis no listed as the bandiana vehicle. I wonder how that happened.  I presumed that I took the chassis number down by hand on my first visit.  But maybe I got it wrong.  I will try and confirm via the notebook if I can find it or museum.

I'll be at the meseum tomorrow and will get the chassis number
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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2014, 01:08:25 PM »
Thanks for that, (and I am jealous, I love spending time at bandiana).   I did put an email through to the WO2 that did work there, and turns out whop still is who is also checking for me.   Still not sure how it got muddled up, but when I initiall inventoried their land rovers, I may have just not bothered with the 110 because we didn't have much in the way of ARN information on them at the time.
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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2014, 04:27:55 PM »
Ok, mystery solved, bandiana has SALLDRAZ1A7400004, however there is no chassis number marked on it (which fits) only a plate under the bonnet noting 400004.

It fits because it had an identity swap with SALLDRAZ1A7100004 after damage to the original SALLDRAZ1A7400004.  I did have this right in some places, and wrong in others. Will rectify ASAP on the 3 places affected (2 pages and DB)

http://remlr.com/perentie-project.htm
http://remlr.com/perentie-project-LR.htm
http://www.remlr.com/ARN/ARN-37.php
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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2014, 08:59:54 PM »
The fellow who saved this gem was easo. He found it in a skip.
Recognising it was of significant historical value, he retrieved it.

The story, as I understand it, JRA sent the ADF what they wanted to supply. The ADF stripped down, modified and reassembled the first three. They then sent them back saying "This is what you will supply."
This is the third of those three.





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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2014, 09:02:51 PM »




REMLR # 310, MVCA # 364, MHG #101
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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2014, 09:03:58 PM »




REMLR # 310, MVCA # 364, MHG #101
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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2014, 09:04:53 PM »


REMLR # 310, MVCA # 364, MHG #101
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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2014, 09:52:14 PM »
not quite the story, but I will elaborate in the morning.
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Re: Perentie trial vehicles
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2014, 09:35:19 AM »
Ok, i'm back for elaboration!!

The selection of a replacemebt for the series 3 land rover in army service began all the way back in 1980 when the army rote a requirement for new vehicles for some time in the mid 1980's (obviusly it happened a little later than that).

Army Staff Requiremebt 63.11 - Army's range of light field vehicles was completed 13 Feb 1981 for an in service date of 1984/85 at an estimated cost of (in 1980 prices) $0.014m for the light utility, and $0.022m for the Light.  This dcument, which I will attempt to digitise today, lays out what hte vehicle needs to be able to do, a specification in essence, just a 20 odd page one outlaying dimensions, capabilities, specifications and characteristics.  The document does not infer, nor is it intended to infer, any specific vehicle to fulfil the 2 weight classes. 

As I understand it, land rover actually anticipated the need and had started working on prototypes.

Some time after the Army Staff Requirement was issued, an expression of interest was released, and in July 1982 a tender was released to the prefered manufacturers who responded to the expression of interest to provide vehicles for competitive trials. In the 4x4 there was Land Rover, Jeep and Mercedes. In 2 ton there was Land Rover and Mercedes. 

For the trials Land Rover produced 4 1 ton 4x4 vehicles, and 5 6x6 vehicles.  Land rover kept one 4x4, the amry got 3 for trials.  This unit, and the one at bandiana are 2 of those 3 significant vehicles. I have heard that at least 2 of the Jeeps still exist, and at least one in original condition.  I have heard that the mercs may also still exist.  In the 6x6 land rovers, bandiana now has 2 of these.  Land rover retained 2, one was disassembled, one became the wide body, and later dual cab prototype.  This vehicle now resides at bandiana along wiht one of the original trials 6x6 vehicles.

From there the trials were completed, the assessments made, and report made, and a choice made, which we know was Land Rover.  Then variants needed were discussed, negotiations occurred and contracts issued.  Land Rover had developed a range of models, and the army of course had some ideas on vehicles that they needed.  The command post was mooted as being needed, but after initial production was not required, or was overtaken by the parakeet.  The SRV came about as a development of the RFSV as an example.

It is worth noting that land rover wanted one continious produciton run to keep the costs down, but the government or army wanted a split run, which we now know as Perentie and Bushranger, and as predicted, the costs were higher for the bushranger vehicles because of the break in production.

I hope that clears things up a little.
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