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Re: Australian Army Vehicles - Indonesian Confrontation 1963-66
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2013, 04:34:43 PM »
Good day gents,
A few years ago I put a lot of ARN,s on the old website for the Borneo trucks and Land rovers, I don't think it has made it across to this forum.

Found it Ken :)

International trucks on the strength of 22 Construction Squadron Borneo 30th June 1966.

170-185, 170-214, 170-215, 170-216, 170-220, 170-222, 170-466, 170-477, 170-490,
170-492, 170-508, 170-509, 170-529, 170-542.

The workshop had their own Mk3s.

170-219, 170-227, 170-233, 170-234, 170-275, 170-497, 170-217 service truck, 170-596, 170-599 machinery trucks.

AB160 teaspoon tippers with 22 Construction Squadron

116-409, 116-410, 116-414, 116-424, 116-426, 116-683, 116-684, 116-685, 116-687,
116-688, 116-690, 116-696, 116-697, 116-698, 116-699.

These trucks had been passed on by 21 Construction Squadron earlier in the year. One of my teaspoons is 116 414 and had about 7,500 miles on the speedo at the time which was a lot less than the remainder of the teaspoons.

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Re: Australian Army Vehicles - Indonesian Confrontation 1963-66
« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2013, 05:05:16 PM »
Do we know what happened to the ex-Colombo Plan teaspoon tippers donated back to the Aussie contingent as spares donors?
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« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2013, 06:20:51 PM »
Do we know what happened to the ex-Colombo Plan teaspoon tippers donated back to the Aussie contingent as spares donors?

Can you elaborate please ???

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Re: Australian Army Vehicles - Indonesian Confrontation 1963-66
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2013, 07:11:03 PM »
These photos show that a workshop Land Rover was attached to the 110/111th LAA unit. Would it have been there for the Inters or the guns?

 

A close look at the workshop and you would swear it had square cut guards.

OK, further investigation shows that the workshop does indeed have square cut guards. Could this be the first time an army Land Rover had these guards. I was of the understanding that the first cut guards were used during the Vietnam conflict.

Close up of the workshop from another photo.

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Re: Australian Army Vehicles - Indonesian Confrontation 1963-66
« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2013, 07:13:52 PM »
Do we know what happened to the ex-Colombo Plan teaspoon tippers donated back to the Aussie contingent as spares donors?

Can you elaborate please ???
There is a reference to it in the AWM records See: http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=1063.0
(Page 48 http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records/awm95/4/7/awm95-4-7-2.pdf )

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Civilian: MY85 RRc HiLine 4.6, MY51 ex-RACQ 80", MY91 Defender/Reynolds Boughton 6x6, MY12 D4 SDV6

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« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2013, 07:16:29 PM »
Some Land Rover photos.

 

 

 

 
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« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2013, 07:33:56 PM »
We mustn't forget the motorcycle. Looks to me like a 1942 WLA Harley Davidson.

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« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2013, 08:02:22 PM »
You will notice in the background a Bedford RL loaded up with two L5 Howitzers. The following photos show how the Aussies got them up onto the tray.



First remove the muzzle brake.



Hook up to Land Rover and reverse up ramp.

 

Chain gun down. Ready to go.


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Re: Australian Army Vehicles - Indonesian Confrontation 1963-66
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2013, 08:46:46 AM »
Re the cut guards, they were a modification done in australia, not as a result of vietnam. 

John bamford elaborated on this on his page on REMLR http://www.remlr.com/john-bamford.html
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Re: Australian Army Vehicles - Indonesian Confrontation 1963-66
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2013, 09:10:38 AM »
These photos show that a workshop Land Rover was attached to the 110/111th LAA unit. Would it have been there for the Inters or the guns?


Impossible to know unless one was there I suspect.

A unit armourer would probably not need a workshop for the guns; most parts for weapons are expense stores and can be carried in anything and used as necessary, with the exception of things such as barrels/breeches; breech-blocks, etc. which are not repairable at that level and would have been returned to a base workshop when they were worn-out.

Perhaps the most useful Land Rover workshop for this unit, would have been the POL lubrication one, given all of the oil and greasing points on the vehicles and presumably guns,

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« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2013, 10:11:27 AM »
Re the cut guards, they were a modification done in australia, not as a result of vietnam. 

John bamford elaborated on this on his page on REMLR http://www.remlr.com/john-bamford.html

The article is not clear as to what year the square cut guards were officially adopted and whether they were retrofitted to some S2 for trial purposes. If they were, it would be interesting to know if these S2s kept the guards. My understanding is that they were fitted at the beginning of the S2A in 1964. It was Vietnam that we saw the guards in numbers due to the amount of photos from that war.

The workshop in the photo could either be a 1964/65 S2A or S2 with retro fitted guards and would most probably be one of the first, if not the first Land Rover sent on deployment with the new square cut guards. I have yet to see any other Land Rover from the Confrontation with these guards. Every Land Rover appears to be S2s.
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Re: Australian Army Vehicles - Indonesian Confrontation 1963-66
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2013, 01:28:54 PM »
Re the wksp rover,I would be inclined to believe it would be an auto repair,manned by a mechanic and an armourer.This would fullfill the requirement of keeping the inters and arnaments in operational condition.Larger repair items would probably be in a spares truck,also manned by tradies(possibly a radio mech for comms and another mechanic)
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« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2013, 06:52:12 PM »

Perhaps the most useful Land Rover workshop for this unit, would have been the POL lubrication one, given all of the oil and greasing points on the vehicles and presumably guns,

Cheers Charlie

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These two photos show a workshop with vehicles from 24 Construction Squadron, Borneo 1965. With all the earthmoving equipment and trucks, this workshop may have been the lube truck.

 

 

Apart from the guards, can anyone tell whether this workshop is a S2 or S2A?
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« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2013, 07:01:15 PM »
Two more Land Rovers identified 111-860 and 110-820.

 
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Re: Australian Army Vehicles - Indonesian Confrontation 1963-66
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2013, 09:01:11 PM »

Perhaps the most useful Land Rover workshop for this unit, would have been the POL lubrication one, given all of the oil and greasing points on the vehicles and presumably guns,

Cheers Charlie

G'day Charlie

These two photos show a workshop with vehicles from 24 Construction Squadron, Borneo 1965. With all the earthmoving equipment and trucks, this workshop may have been the lube truck.

 

 

Apart from the guards, can anyone tell whether this workshop is a S2 or S2A?

It appears to have a chrome ring around the P/S blinker (rather than just the rubber body of the lamp holder in 2As) so would be a Series 2 if that is the case. Does it look like that to anyone else?

Bob