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Vehicle Variants => Radio Vehicles => : John Gordon July 04, 2017, 10:45:27 PM

: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon July 04, 2017, 10:45:27 PM
Folks, as a keen collector of WW2 jeeps there is much discussion about minor variations that occurred in the Standardised Jeep over the period late 1941 through late 45 when production stopped. Changes were introduced with the manufacturing process in Willys Overland and Ford Motor Company as well as field modifications. As an owner of an ex RAAF FFR 110 (ARN 231198 dod 9/1990), I have been visiting the auctions at Minto for over 6 months noting and photographing most vehicles though I tend to focus on FFRs. Just wondering if someone has compiled a list of variations that others can add to. From my observation there certainly are not as many as theWW2 jeep however I have noted several. Many will be production mods and some field or depot mods as the need arose. List to date for FFRs (winch or non winch):

1. Early "coat hanger" bullbar; later strengthened bullbar
2. Round chassis cross-member under gearbox; square section cross-member under gearbox.
3. Even rear chassis "steps" covering convoy lights; uneven "steps" right about 1-2 cm wider
4. Tie down rings in the rear area (similar to GS);the usual nil (expect this is a depot mod)
5. Early type, silver finish  extinguisher bracket (cup type base) most likely ex BCF extinguisher; later, flat section, gold coloured  bracket for Dry Powder extinguisher.
6. Early, narrow type seats (can't recall brand); later, wider seats (can't recall brand)
7. Early type "step down" on inside rear of vehicle over wheel arch to rear panel; later straight section over wheel arch to rear panel
8. Standard rectangular flat topped brake reservoir; depot replaced sloping top brake reservoir (ex Falcon with sloping bonnet?)
9. Rear Land Rover sign on left side; on right side
10. Rear Land Rover sign in plastic; later sticker.
11. Front name sticker "110"; front sticker "Land Rover 110"
12. Front grill attached plastic oval Land Rover badge; no badge
13. Sugar scoop aerial mount "full type"; Sugar scoop aerial mount "cut out" type with top corners cut out to lighten
14. Semi circular mount bracket/s on rear jerrycan holders for Clark Masts; nil brackets
15. Standard locker locks; latches/padlock hasps to outside lockers (depot mods for security?)
16. Black padding on inner door skins; nil padding (always fitted an fallen off or never fitted?)
17. Land Rover brand original matts; conveyor belt rubber mats screwed down; conveyor belt mats not screwed down
18. Early "rectangular" steering centre hub; later "rounder/sloping top" centre steering wheel hub
19. Standard 4 spoke steering wheel; "boomerang", cushioned steering wheel as per 6x6 (depot mod?)
20. Presumably early SLR barrel clips (and base mount?); later Steyr clips (and base mount)?
21. Early Steeltrek tyres; later Michelin tyres
22. Steel Radio tables; aluminium radio tables
23. Rear "jump seat" cushions in green vinyl; rear "jump seats" in canvas (depot mod?)
17.  Horizontal metal brackets inner sides of rear compartment behind driver and passenger seats (for Raven sets); nil
18. Standard vent air intake; short "shark fin" snorkel/intake
19. Driving lights as per RFSV; standard nil (saw a posting re this on the site)
20. Standard jerrycan mounts; double "vertical" jerrycan mounts as per RFSV (depot mod)
21. Distribution box outlet caps metal type; plastic type
22. Standard black faced ammeter gauge on centre console; later 1/2 black 1/2 white ammeter gauge (in service replacement?)
23. Early camo style paint; later camo style paint
24. Early style black wheel arches; painted wheel arches (I know this is paint only however still affects appearance)
25. Winch fitted however not noted on dataplate as winch type (depot mod?)
26. Early metal diesel plunger bleed pump; later plastic plunger bleed pump
27. As for all Perenties "original" silver fittings motor; reconditioned "black" motor


Jag

 
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: FFRMAN July 04, 2017, 11:05:46 PM
Wow comprehensive list and I agree with everything. Seats are ISRI, both new and old. I did think of something else but forgot by the time I got to the end!

Cheers
Scott
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Diana Alan July 04, 2017, 11:21:51 PM
Wow comprehensive list and I agree with everything. Seats are ISRI, both new and old. I did think of something else but forgot by the time I got to the end!

Cheers
Scott
Except for the seats made by Stratos.  The main difference between the Isri (both early and late) is that they have a removable cushion on the passenger's side where the Stratos have no removable cushion and are instead on a special frame hinged on the RHS so the whole seat tilts sideways to access the battery box.  It seems that the Stratos seats were fitted to some MY91 and later vehicles.

C Ya
Diana
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: FFRMAN July 05, 2017, 08:27:40 AM
Wow comprehensive list and I agree with everything. Seats are ISRI, both new and old. I did think of something else but forgot by the time I got to the end!

Cheers
Scott
Except for the seats made by Stratos.  The main difference between the Isri (both early and late) is that they have a removable cushion on the passenger's side where the Stratos have no removable cushion and are instead on a special frame hinged on the RHS so the whole seat tilts sideways to access the battery box.  It seems that the Stratos seats were fitted to some MY91 and later vehicles.

C Ya
Diana

Thanks Diana

Haven't seen those seats before.

Regards
Scott
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: AGAS 5 July 05, 2017, 10:19:11 AM
That's a great list John. Thanks for taking the time to compile it.

Cheers,

Pete
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon July 05, 2017, 10:39:11 AM
Folks thanks for the feedback. These are only my personal observations based on 6 months of examining 110s particularly the FFRs. Those who have been around these vehicles for longer will no doubt have other observations. I would welcome  the input on my observations if they are early/ late. eg., when was the reinforced bullbar introduced, made by ARB or off road equipment supplier?

Another difference with the Early and Late ISRI seats, the early seat cushions are held in with pins only and can be pulled out easily. The later type has a small release catch at the front.

A few months back I spoke to a supplier of components for Project Perentie. I am not sure I heard this correct - the early types (like the civilian?) front door pockets were aluminium and then changed to fibreglass. He mentioned the small facia with the 2 gauges in the dash centre on the FFR was originally covered in "marvieplate" ( I may have spelt it incorrectly. It appears this was a sort of black vinyl coated metal finish. When this was discontinued they used a crackle finish black paint. 

Whilst not a "difference" as such, I would like to resolve another observation. On some FFRs one sees a large aluminium "washer/spacer" remaining on the sugar scoop aerial mount. These don't work with the later matching aerial base units. Someone told me they were for an earlier radio/aerial type. Would appreciate some advice on this. I have managed to gather a couple out of interest.

thanks,

jag
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Carzee July 05, 2017, 10:43:31 AM
Thx John, excellent.

Also for cross-ref http://www.remlr.com/perentie-ffr.html

Both our FFRs, 50-169 and 50-257 had aluminium radio tables.

A handful from East Timor had a front and rear ROPS hoop. So far confirmed 48-975 and 48-753.

http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=5079.0

(http://www.remlr.com/photos/pics10/as22.jpg)
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Carzee July 05, 2017, 10:47:13 AM
To add, the interior rear light, red and white:
http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=777.0
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: FFRMAN July 05, 2017, 11:01:26 AM
Yes the door pockets are either Al or fibreglass. Also early have glass fuses later blade fuses.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon July 05, 2017, 11:40:06 AM
thanks for adding to the list, does someone know how to make it a sticky list that can be added to?

Re the comment on the double ROPS. It solves an issue I had with an Defence website heavily cropped photo of a signalman in a Perentie. The imaged looked to be mirrored as there was a ROPS bar to the left and right of the signaller - now I know why!

jag
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: THE BOOGER July 05, 2017, 07:41:14 PM
Done  :)
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Diana Alan July 05, 2017, 07:59:20 PM
Except for the seats made by Stratos.  The main difference between the Isri (both early and late) is that they have a removable cushion on the passenger's side where the Stratos have no removable cushion and are instead on a special frame hinged on the RHS so the whole seat tilts sideways to access the battery box.  It seems that the Stratos seats were fitted to some MY91 and later vehicles.

C Ya
Diana
Thanks Diana

Haven't seen those seats before.

Regards
Scott
The Stratos are common in the 6x6 variants but many made it into the 4x4s as well.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon July 05, 2017, 09:40:16 PM
Another small variation I recalled today:
28. Early tool locker floor - no drain hole; late floor drain hole/s
Also confirmed that the solid type "sugar scoop" aerial mount are the early type in mild steel. The later type is the cut-out/lightweight version made of galvanised steel.

regards,

Jag
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Sixty July 06, 2017, 04:38:46 PM
1. Early "coat hanger" bullbar; later strengthened bullbar the later 'ARB' brushguard was a updated replacement part
2. Round chassis cross-member under gearbox; square section cross-member under gearbox. later 49 / 50 / 51 /202 series ARNs had an updated chassis x mbr
3. Even rear chassis "steps" covering convoy lights; uneven "steps" right about 1-2 cm wider yep....random dodyness from LR
4. Tie down rings in the rear area (similar to GS);the usual nil (expect this is a depot mod) Illegal / incorrectly modified
5. Early type, silver finish  extinguisher bracket (cup type base) most likely ex BCF extinguisher; later, flat section, gold coloured  bracket for Dry Powder extinguisher. pfft...there was approx 4 variants of fire ext brk...and slight changes in mounting position depending on the wpn and numpty fitting it
6. Early, narrow type seats (can't recall brand); later, wider seats (can't recall brand)approx 4 different types of seats, including random fitments of 6by seats to a 4by
7. Early type "step down" on inside rear of vehicle over wheel arch to rear panel; later straight section over wheel arch to rear panel ??
8. Standard rectangular flat topped brake reservoir; depot replaced sloping top brake reservoir (ex Falcon with sloping bonnet?) srong possability contractor fitted falcon reservoir/lid instead of 'square' res.
9. Rear Land Rover sign on left side; on right side
10. Rear Land Rover sign in plastic; later sticker.
11. Front name sticker "110"; front sticker "Land Rover 110"
12. Front grill attached plastic oval Land Rover badge; no badge fitted to late ARNs..most likely souvenired..
13. Sugar scoop aerial mount "full type"; Sugar scoop aerial mount "cut out" type with top corners cut out to lighten AMU...aerial mounting unit
14. Semi circular mount bracket/s on rear jerrycan holders for Clark Masts; nil brackets CES to the Clark mast, should have been removed.
15. Standard locker locks; latches/padlock hasps to outside lockers (depot mods for security?) early ces bins had 2x over cenrre clips...hasp n staple provide security.
16. Black padding on inner door skins; nil padding (always fitted an fallen off or never fitted?)replacement door...sound deadner not replaced
17. Land Rover brand original matts; conveyor belt rubber mats screwed down; conveyor belt mats not screwed downearly 'mod'...save money buy using insertion rubber
18. Early "rectangular" steering centre hub; later "rounder/sloping top" centre steering wheel hub later thicker wheel with diff centre was fitted to 200-202 series LRs, and eventually a replacement part
19. Standard 4 spoke steering wheel; "boomerang", cushioned steering wheel as per 6x6 (depot mod?) as above
20. Presumably early SLR barrel clips (and base mount?); later Steyr clips (and base mount)? pics..?.
21. Early Steeltrek tyres; later Michelin tyres yep...
22. Steel Radio tables; aluminium radio tables yep...changed from 77/vincent to raven suite
23. Rear "jump seat" cushions in green vinyl; rear "jump seats" in canvas (depot mod?) radio operator seat! More than likely recovered by contractors
17.  Horizontal metal brackets inner sides of rear compartment behind driver and passenger seats (for Raven sets); nil yep...mod to suit raven radios...'must be fitted'.
18. Standard vent air intake; short "shark fin" snorkel/intake sposed to fitted to only select/approced vehicles
19. Driving lights as per RFSV; standard nil (saw a posting re this on the site) local or illegal mod (oem lights/wiring c r a p
20. Standard jerrycan mounts; double "vertical" jerrycan mounts as per RFSV (depot mod) ilegal or local mod
21. Distribution box outlet caps metal type; plastic type updated replacement parts
22. Standard black faced ammeter gauge on centre console; later 1/2 black 1/2 white ammeter gauge (in service replacement?)
23. Early camo style paint; later camo style paint varied by difderent contractors
24. Early style black wheel arches; painted wheel arches (I know this is paint only however still affects appearance)
25. Winch fitted however not noted on dataplate as winch type (depot mod?) two different variants...FFR or FFR W/W
26. Early metal diesel plunger bleed pump; later plastic plunger bleed pump updated replacement parts
27. As for all Perenties "original" silver fittings motor; reconditioned "black" motor;
28. Early tool locker floor - no drain hole; late floor drain hole/s Ces bin drain hole was a mod
29. ROPS - approx 8 FFRs were modified to carry/protect gunnery computers
30. Red/white operators light - standard fitment
Aaand there are plenty of other small differences   8)
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Diana Alan July 06, 2017, 06:28:31 PM
1. <snip> ...
...<snip>
4. Tie down rings in the rear area (similar to GS);the usual nil (expect this is a depot mod) Illegal / incorrectly modified
5. <snip> ...
If these were illegal/unit mods, wouldn't they have been removed during a Tennix/BAE full rebuild?  A mate has an FFR that is fitted with the cargo rings but the vehicle was never issued after the rebuild.

Is there any chance that it was an upgrade made on the rebuild line?
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Sixty July 06, 2017, 06:49:12 PM
No.
The relevant emei was only for GS LR.
The cost to replace the floor/s wasn't worth it.

How do you know your mates veh was never re-issued? Where was it held?
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon July 07, 2017, 09:46:32 AM
Al,

thanks for the additional comments on the list above. Note the winch FFR I referred to, whilst it had a winch fitted, was not listed in its logbook or on its data plate on the passenger seat base as a winch fitted vehicle. I can only assume it was fitted from new parts or parts salvaged from another vehicle in a local workshop or contractor.
regards,

jag
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Sixty July 07, 2017, 06:47:25 PM
John,
Was it an 8000 or 9000lb Thomas pto?
(4x4s = 8000lb @ 6x6 = 9000lb)
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon July 07, 2017, 08:51:14 PM
It was the correct 8000 Thomas winch. I crawled under it and almost purchased it last year before I was well outbid. It also had the chassis with the slightly longer rear step on the right side. I don't think a 9000 would fit the 110 in any event - too wide.

jag
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Diana Alan July 08, 2017, 08:40:08 PM
No.
The relevant emei was only for GS LR.
The cost to replace the floor/s wasn't worth it.

How do you know your mates veh was never re-issued? Where was it held?
It's what he told me but he does have the logbooks, so I'll find out.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon September 21, 2017, 11:39:35 PM
Hi Folks, have been off air for a time. Adding to the list of FFR variations:
31. Brackets to attach the half moon brackets for the Clark Mast base vary. Lets call it Type 1: manufacturers (Clark) issue mast base brackets with two strips of metal that is each threaded for 2 bolts. The bracket attaches to the inside of the jerrycan bracket (and severely restricts space for the plastic water jerrycan). Type 2: looks to be a fitting mod whereby the strips noted in Type 1 are welded to the outside of the jerrycan bracket and then the half moon base is bolted on, no interference to the jerrycan fit. Type 3: manufacturer (Clark) supplied flat, thin metal plate with 4 threaded bolts attached. This attaches to the inside of the jerrycan bracket with the bolts pointing rearwards (out) for attachment of the mast bracket with nuts. This item has a part number stamped on it. I have seen only a few, perhaps 15% of the population observed so far). Because the plate is thin and flat, it does not interfere with jerrycan fitting.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon November 25, 2017, 09:20:07 PM
Folks an update after the recent auction. From WA an FFR with the double jerry can holders (already listed) and an addition at no. 18 - long RFSV type snorkel fitted.
Another I missed before -camo colours - "standard' green, brown, black; "Pilbirra" green, brown, red.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: BEARMAN November 25, 2017, 09:49:51 PM
Did you get that one John - you lucky bugger. I would have loved to get it myself. That price was very reasonable.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Carzee November 25, 2017, 10:54:03 PM
Hi John your notes are good and inspired me to do a check over what I had so far.

Here's my notes from AFM, from a photo, and from "RFADD" build files via Richard G.


RFSVs = 50-391 to 50-419

"RFADD" build info so far:

50-420 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and two single jerry holders but std cam paint - has definite telltale signs of double jerry holders but changed back to singles. With std cam paint.)

50-421 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and two single jerry holders but std cam paint - has definite telltale signs of double jerry holders but changed back to singles. With std cam paint.)

50-422 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and two single jerry holders but std cam paint - has definite telltale signs of double jerry holders but changed back to singles. With std cam paint.)

50-423 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and two single jerry holders but std cam paint - has definite telltale signs of double jerry holders but changed back to singles. With std cam paint.)

50-424 FFR "RFADD" build, unseen

50-425 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and two single jerry holders but std cam paint - has definite telltale signs of double jerry holders but changed back to singles. With std cam paint.)

50-426 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and two single jerry holders - has definite telltale signs of double jerry holders but changed back to singles. With std cam paint.)

50-427 FFR "RFADD"  seen AFM (FFR with winch and double jerry holders. With std cam paint.)

50-428 FFR "RFADD"  seen AFM (FFR with winch and double jerry holders. With std cam paint.)

50-429 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and double jerry holders. With std cam paint.)

50-430 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and double jerry holders. With std cam paint.) AWOL fleet.

50-431 FFR "RFADD" build, unseen

50-432 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and double jerry holders. With std cam paint.)

50-433 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and two single jerry holders - has definite telltale signs of double jerry holders but changed back to singles. With std cam paint.)

50-434 FFR "RFADD" build, unseen

50-435 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM. (FFR with winch and two single jerry holders - has definite telltale signs of double jerry holders but changed back to singles. Has PRegt cam paint. Has snorkel, std fuse box position, std Perentie rims and tyres.)

50-436 FFR "RFADD" build, unseen.

50-437 FFR "RFADD" in-service photo only (FFR with winch and double jerry holders, PRegt cam paint. Has spare tyre mounted on driver door. Has RFSV type bullbar, split rims with Road Treks. No snorkel.)

50-438 FFR "RFADD" seen AFM (FFR with winch and double jerry holders, PRegt cam paint. Has snorkel, std fuse box position, std Perentie rims and tyres.)

50-439 FFR "RFADD" build, unseen

50-440 nothing known
50-441 nothing known
50-442 nothing known
50-443 nothing known
50-444 Motorcycle
50-445 Toyota LWB GS.

Did the "RFADD" builds get other bits? Bits like RFSV front diffs, rear discs, and high set fuse box? Not very likely, but...
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon November 25, 2017, 11:48:06 PM
No not me. A friend bought it from WA. Looks clean in the photos
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon November 25, 2017, 11:50:23 PM
Thanks for the additional information and photos, very helpful
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon December 03, 2017, 12:19:31 PM
Another for the list of variations. Instruments Fuel, Ammeter, Temp. :

"Early" VDO type with different coloured "segment blocks"
"Later"?, VDO type with different coloured "segment lines/dashes"

: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Dervish December 03, 2017, 01:56:56 PM
Another for the list of variations. Instruments Fuel, Ammeter, Temp. :

"Early" VDO type with different coloured "segment blocks"
"Later"?, VDO type with different coloured "segment lines/dashes"

My experience would indicate that the lined gauges are the early ones.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon December 04, 2017, 12:58:13 PM
Thanks for the feedback on the gauges. I did not think to photograph the gauges in the prototype GS at Bandiana which would be helpful. 
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Carzee December 08, 2017, 11:57:11 PM
Here are two auction pics from current AFM sales.

First FFR is for sale with the newer slide slot mount Clark Mast Base, described by John as 'Type 2' above.

Second FFR has a rare bit of CES - its for sale with rear clamp on Clark holders that steady the Clark Masts vertically and horizontally as seen in third and fourth in-service photos.

: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Carzee December 10, 2017, 09:46:57 PM
More pics.
A screengrab from an ADF recruitment vid. Shows the same clamp bracket as above.
Another FFR sold off this month with left and right side Clark support bases. Also note the evidence of scraped paintwork on the left and right side of the rear tub where the big clamp brackets have been used and then removed.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon December 11, 2017, 09:51:36 AM
Folks, thank for the updates. I have not seen the "slide slot" fitting for the Clark Mast base before. Fortunately, my FFR purchase in 2016 was still fitted with the Clark Clamps like the one in the photos. Many are removed however I have seen several vehicles sold with them still on. I have also seen a few with the Raven Racks still in place as they have now been replaced with later radio types. Having studied the Clark Mast Clamps, there are some slight variations even with those - some have more "Clark" names cast into the body and clamp handles than others; some have 2 holes drilled into the rear section that clamps to the outside of the vehicle.
JAG
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon December 11, 2017, 09:58:20 AM
On further review, I note the auction vehicle shown with the clamps bears no sign of holes for the Clark Mast  base. I have seen this on some actual Army in service pictures as well. This implies the clamps in that case were only used for transport and not to set up the Mast. The Masts came with a kit which included a base and guy wires that enabled it to be erected independent of the vehicle.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: isuzutoo-eh December 18, 2017, 09:01:36 PM
Pretty sure I saw an FFR at auction with RFSV/SRV style front diff housing. Probably had 4 pin centre too. Mine now has an HD housing thanks to Bearman and JC in Tassie :)

Also, the fibreglass door pockets come in two versions. One has sorta-ornate panelling in the design the other plain. Mine are plain, Mike S (Dopey on here) has two RFSV with the pretty pockets.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Carzee December 18, 2017, 09:40:41 PM
Hi Mark, I haven't noted the door tray differences, good info. As for front diffs I read here or there that Disco Series 1 (not the earliest batches) have the stronger diff too. If my diff cronks I may take more note of these things.

---- and I have finally got the closer pics of my Clark Support with the mystery grommet and bolt.

Also a pic showing the early type bracket/backplate and bolts.
See atts.
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: Ford Blitz December 19, 2017, 06:53:51 PM
Greetings from a fellow Jeep tragic. I have both GPW and Willys MB in various stages of restoration. It is a real disease and I have collected a container and half a shed of Jeep bits. It really gets you in.
 :)
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: John Gordon January 01, 2018, 01:13:01 AM
I have stopped at 3 Jeeps dating from 1941, 1942 and 1943, all Fords. The Land Rover was my chance to by direct from Army disposals, something I could not do with the Jeeps. The FFR is like a limo with luxury features including a roof, doors, windows, electric wipers, heater and seatbelts!

Re the Clark Mast brackets, I note the last one displayed with the rubber cushion has a small screw attachment. What was this for? The masts I have seen have a pointed end which just sits in the hole in the rubber cup?

Happy 2018 to all. Maybe see you at Corowa in March with the theme - "Year of the Land Rover"
regards
JAG
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: glbest July 01, 2020, 12:47:07 PM
from my n recollection prior to 1999 the airforce bought their own vehicles as they werenot part of the percentile project RAAFTUS had a fleet of OKA and the ADG used 110 ffr
: Re: Perentie 110 FFR Variations
: glbest July 01, 2020, 12:54:52 PM
majority of 1 div vehicles were rebuilt from return of timor and in bne were completed by outsourced contractor prior to tenix taking over the contract in nov 2004 and tenix completed the rest after the January 2005
as there was a big purge to keep the contractors in work and not to terminate period contracts  at the time suport local businesses  was the policy rather than tenix toll