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Title: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Tommy on September 06, 2012, 09:56:02 PM
Hello all

Did any S2 CR Land Rovers go to Vietnam? REMLR ARN info on these vehicles do not indicate any Vietnam involvement.
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: DennisM on September 07, 2012, 07:02:17 AM
In a word, yes, have a another look in Stan M's 2AOD website, cheers Dennis
Ps I can't look n transfer pix as I'm using SWMBO iPad
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: DennisM on September 07, 2012, 02:29:03 PM
A quick look in Stan M's  2AOD site this is what I found a S2 C/R
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2751/4136041022_1b999b5998_o.jpg
picture taken by Terry "Bluey" Williams, collated by Stan M, cheers Dennis
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Phoenix on September 07, 2012, 04:25:03 PM
That is the same photo I was thinking about when this came up, you just beat me to it!
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: DennisM on September 07, 2012, 05:40:04 PM
Just not sure whether it's O/S, maybe ZD or Hodgo will know from the formation signs on the Inter, cheers Dennis
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: zulu delta 534 on September 07, 2012, 07:59:55 PM
That shot was taken on an exercise in Australia. None of our tippers went to Vietnam in Bronze green.
Regards
Glen
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: firey on September 07, 2012, 08:53:14 PM
I was told that when I purchased my CR that it had a one in three chance, since they only made three CR Light Machine Shop variants, that it was deployed to Vietnam. In the Mud and Dust book it states that there was one truck 1/4 ton Machine Shop Land Rover deployed.

Hope this helps.

Peter
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Tommy on September 07, 2012, 09:12:41 PM
I was of the impression that no S2 CR Land Rovers were sent to Vietnam.....until yesterday.

I was looking through some Vietnam War photos when I spotted this...

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/CRa.jpg)

Two S2 CR Truck, Utility, 1/4 Ton, GS, With Stretcher Frame sitting alongside S2As.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/CR.jpg)

This photo came from the Stan Middleton collection. It is just one of a number of images taken at a time when the Australian base was flooded. Here is another image from that series. You will note the two Vietnamese women thus confirming the location.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/CRb.jpg)

If these two Land Rovers can be confirmed as S2 CRs then Richard will need to update the CR history page :)
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Phoenix on September 08, 2012, 10:33:49 AM
I am 90% sure that Mike Cecil found navy records showing which vehicles were sent to vietnam across the board, hence his precise numbers.  I must get around to asking him for a copy, or their location to obtain one.  That said, lack of time to actually put the information in vs the mound of ARN's I still have to put into the system as well as page updates has slowed me down from actually asking the question.
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: digger on September 08, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
If its not to hard (i aint that bright!) I'm willing to help enter ARNS or update or collate some stuff if that helps..

I can give you my email or snail mail addresses if that'll help (I think you have them)


(and all for the payment of 1 x gunbuggy..... oh darn it I'll do it for free)
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Phoenix on September 08, 2012, 09:30:50 PM
Might take you up on that.  Challenge is making sure that people aren't working against one another as something done by one can be over written by another. 

Perhaps the census codes would be a good start, there are a lot to add to the list.  I'll PM you.
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Minikeg on June 18, 2013, 12:18:21 AM
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4151/5223018101_e898e41fbf_o.jpg)
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2465/3645829202_c49ec38385_o.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3059/4063638837_9c721051c2_o.jpg)
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2682/4058576282_3e3435ac53_o.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4033/4270190723_32953f8fb6_o.jpg)
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2776/4297373332_ae7ed078bf_o.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4127/5063041587_83e3e02bbe_o.jpg)
Another few from Stan with S2 in Vietnam

This one looks pretty gloss green to me on a Nui Dat convoy;
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3435/3401352000_525bc09db2_o.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: zulu delta 534 on June 18, 2013, 07:47:20 AM


This one looks pretty gloss green to me on a Nui Dat convoy;
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3435/3401352000_525bc09db2_o.jpg)

It is that too, but the Tac signs signify that the vehicle in question belongs to the Kiwi 161 artillery battery, hence the different colour. The bonnet is different as well.
Regards
Glen
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Tommy on October 16, 2013, 11:27:17 PM
Now this one is confusing.

The following photos show an 88 Series 2 Land Rover used by the Australian/New Zealand Red Cross. I think it is a civilian model but it does however have Australian ARN plates. 108-664. So what does this make the vehicle? An official Australian army Land Rover? There is no reference to 108-664 in REMLR ARN page.
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Minikeg on October 17, 2013, 12:26:16 AM
This would be the same land rover found here

(http://www.remlr.com/vietpix/awm/1967/COL-67-0857-VN.jpg)

listed on this ARN page

http://www.remlr.com/ARN/vietnam-landrover.php

No Vehicle Listed in AWM Ledger. ARN appears to have been used in Vietnam by Red Cross unit. S2, civilian 88in HT, 1967. Vietnam photo AWM COL-67-0857-VN. Image Link
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Tommy on October 17, 2013, 12:38:14 AM
Thanks for that Minikeg :). I didn't look in that section. Unfortunately, it doesn't answer the question of ownership :(
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Mike C on October 17, 2013, 02:30:05 AM
See 'Mud and Dust' pages 167 and 168 for an explanation of the integration and role of philanthropic organisations supporting the AMF in SVN.

Army registrations were issued for administrative reasons such as the issue of POL and stores, movement through military channels to and from South Vietnam, and so on. The vehicles were supplied and still owned by their respective organisations.

By the time of East Timor, the policy had changed, and such organisations had to register and maintain (at least in theory), their own vehicles. The Salvoes Land Rovers in East Timor carried Queensland state registration, for example. They were still moved to and from theatre with military assistance.

Mike C
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Minikeg on October 17, 2013, 12:53:28 PM
Its interesting the black and white photo makes the red completely indistinguishable from the green...
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Tommy on January 02, 2014, 10:26:57 PM
Here is another photo of interest. Food for thought. Any ideas?
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: FFRMAN on January 03, 2014, 11:57:34 AM
Here is another photo of interest. Food for thought. Any ideas?

Looks like the canvas extends beyond rear of tub, so maybe 88" stretcher bearer.... Series 2? As no cut guards and skirts down the sides, no brush bar?
Title: Re: S2 Command Reconnaissance (CR) in Vietnam
Post by: Phoenix on January 03, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
I would say forward area ambulance too!  Probably was a CR to begin with though.