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Vehicle Variants => Trailers => Topic started by: BadCo. on November 16, 2014, 02:48:02 PM

Title: Help with this Trailer
Post by: BadCo. on November 16, 2014, 02:48:02 PM
Hello everyone,

I have been wanting to get my hands on an army trailer to go with my 110 Perentie and have spotted this on the local auction site.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=802283494

Can anyone give me some advise on it?
It says "Jeep Trailer" but is it just a No.5?
What stud pattern will it likely have?
Will it be tall enough to tow behind the Perentie? It looks a little low...
And what is it really worth? For the listed price I may as well import one from Australia.


Thanks in advance,

BadCo.
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: Mick_Marsh on November 16, 2014, 03:01:22 PM
It's a No.4

Still desirable but a No.5 would be better for the Perentie. A Haulmark would be better.
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: muddy on November 16, 2014, 03:12:07 PM
 it is a bantam to go behind a ww11 jeep

 no 4 has flat mudguards where as the bantam has oval
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: Mick_Marsh on November 16, 2014, 03:18:51 PM
What he said.

I'll get my glasses.
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: BadCo. on November 16, 2014, 03:21:34 PM
Ah, not really what I am after then. Draw bar looks to short as well.

Hm, now how to get a trailer from the auctions sent over here...
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: Mick_Marsh on November 16, 2014, 03:28:36 PM
Fly over with an outboard and sail it back.

Buy it and get someone to deliver it to whoever you use to ship it.
Lots of No.5's for auction at Darwin at the moment.
Why Don't you ask Grays if they can help. What about Pack and Send?
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: Diana Alan on November 16, 2014, 04:17:13 PM
Didn't the Kiwi Army have No5 to go behind the Skippys?
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: Diana Alan on November 16, 2014, 04:19:58 PM
I know of a Cooks Body Works trailer that was designed to go behind the Perentie.  Vendor wants $A2K (IIRC) for it.
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: BadCo. on November 16, 2014, 05:50:57 PM
Fly over with an outboard and sail it back.

Ha, brilliant idea.

Buy it and get someone to deliver it to whoever you use to ship it.
Lots of No.5's for auction at Darwin at the moment.
Why Don't you ask Grays if they can help. What about Pack and Send?

I had seen a lot of No.5's at the Darwin auction, but wouldn't shipping from Darwin be much more expensive then Sydney? I'll have to look into that.

What is a pack and send?


Didn't the Kiwi Army have No5 to go behind the Skippys?

I thought they did but I have no idea where they are. Rusting in civilian back yards probably.


I know of a Cooks Body Works trailer that was designed to go behind the Perentie.  Vendor wants $A2K (IIRC) for it.

Out of my budget and possibly bigger then I need?

EDIT: Actually the Cooks look perfect, still too much though.
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: Mick_Marsh on November 16, 2014, 05:59:55 PM
As soon as you mentioned budget, I realised you probably couldn't  afford to get a trailer over there anyway.
Budget be damned, just get one. No expense spared.
The Cooks trailer would well be worth the extra $500 or so.
What is a pack and send?
http://www.packsend.com.au/?gclid=CIzN_JXG_sECFReUvQod60IA_w (http://www.packsend.com.au/?gclid=CIzN_JXG_sECFReUvQod60IA_w)
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: BadCo. on November 16, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
As soon as you mentioned budget, I realised you probably couldn't  afford to get a trailer over there anyway.
The Cooks trailer would well be worth the extra $500 or so.

How so? What do No.5's go for? ~$500 or so? Plus shipping and handling, I dunno just throwing a figure out there, another $500? Total a grand, even if shipping was a grand itself its still not up to the price of (that particular) Cooks.

Am I way off what shipping really costs? Please don't ruin my hopefulness of getting a trailer for my truck! :D

Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: 303Gunner on November 16, 2014, 06:46:40 PM
You are way off with your shipping costs.

You will be better off buying a local trailer. The NZ Army used a copy of the No5 trailer made by Walker Engineering in Hamilton. Virtually identical except for small details like the lunette shape and lighting. Used behind the Skippy 2As and the V8, you will see them from time to time on trade me. Perfect behind your Perentie.
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: BadCo. on November 16, 2014, 07:14:56 PM
Ah cool, at least I know what I am looking for now.

Cheers for that.
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: 303Gunner on December 30, 2014, 12:48:29 AM

Didn't the Kiwi Army have No5 to go behind the Skippys?

I thought they did but I have no idea where they are. Rusting in civilian back yards probably.
Here's one, in Auckland, no less! (PS they were built by Walkers Engineering in Hamilton, not to be confused with the UK made Brockhouse).

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/trailers/single-axle/auction-827088666.htm
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: BadCo. on December 30, 2014, 04:21:44 AM
Ooo that's a good one! I haven't checked trademe over the holidays so I missed this one. Cheers 303Gunner.

Edit. Is it easy to tell the Walker ones from the Brock house?
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: 303Gunner on December 31, 2014, 01:36:30 AM
Walker Engineering built the NZ-made versions of the No5, and were the only builders.

The Brockhouse trailer was a completely different design UK trailer that looks more like a miniature version of what we know in Aust as the 1 Ton Humber or Corio trailer. It was introduced into NZ Army service with the Series 1. It had a 15cwt rating, or about 750Kg.

http://www.remlr.com/roseworthy/0306-15.jpg
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: BadCo. on December 31, 2014, 04:12:20 AM
Cheers for the info, you can see they are rather different. I wonder how the person has them mixed up!?
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: 303Gunner on December 31, 2014, 11:33:32 PM
Because in NZ, the wider public equate "Army Trailer" to mean "Brockhouse".

Same as many people who don't know any better think that any older style 4x4 is called a "Jeep", just a generic term that sounds better than "One of those thingies".
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: BadCo. on April 12, 2015, 08:44:03 AM
Found another on TradeMe, any ideas what this is?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/trailers/single-axle/auction-858611235.htm
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: FFRMAN on April 12, 2015, 12:47:53 PM
Found another on TradeMe, any ideas what this is?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=872308548

A bullbar! ??
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: BadCo. on April 12, 2015, 01:01:59 PM
Whoops, fixed it.
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: Mick_Marsh on April 12, 2015, 01:20:43 PM
Found another on TradeMe, any ideas what this is?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/trailers/single-axle/auction-858611235.htm
Best guess, similar to the type towed by a 1 ton Humber.
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: 303Gunner on May 05, 2017, 12:14:48 AM

Didn't the Kiwi Army have No5 to go behind the Skippys?

I thought they did but I have no idea where they are. Rusting in civilian back yards probably.
Another Kiwi-built No5 on TradeMe:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/trailers/single-axle/auction-1309539507.htm
Title: Re: Help with this Trailer
Post by: BadCo. on May 05, 2017, 05:06:57 AM
Wow, that price! It does look in good condition though.