Registry of Ex Military Land Rovers
REMLR Radio Shack => REMLR Radio Chatter => Topic started by: 303Gunner on September 12, 2013, 05:20:40 PM
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What radio types are fitted to the 6x6 Landrovers. All of the 6x6s are prepared for fitting a radio by the provision of a radio distribution box behind the passenger's seat and a reinforced Antenna mounting on the top of front RHS wing. Some body variants also have an additional Antenna mounting point on the top rear of the body module.
So far, only 2 6x6s released through the auctions have ha evidence of radios actually being installed, both of them Ambulances.
50-645 (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0022-5007444/auto-accessories/land-rover-110-4x4-ffr-soft-top-8-1990) has the basics of an AN/PR77 radio set being installed. In the cab, in addition to the radio distribution box behind the Passenger's seat, behind the centre seat it had a AM-2030 Vehicle Mount Chassis, and an MX-6707 Antenna Base on the front wing. All the connecting cables were still present. It has been mentioned before that the PR-77 Radio is the Set most often fitted.
202-058 (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0026-5007479/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-land-rover-ambulance-ffr-hard-top-10-1995) has an Antenna Base fitted, and pending on-site inspection, presumably interior radio components in the cab. However, the Antenna Base is not an MX-6707, and is a type I don't recognise. If the ARN is an RAAF rego, is it likely that a different Radio Set was installed with a frequency range more suited to Aviation ? Does anyone know which Radio Sets are used by RAAF ground vehicles?
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What makes you think the base isn't a MX-6707?
I'd be almost certain it was for a PRC77 VHF set.
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What radio types are fitted to the 6x6 Landrovers.
RT-F100, RT-F200 & AN/PRC-77
All of the 6x6s are prepared for fitting a radio by the provision of a radio distribution box behind the passenger's seat and a reinforced Antenna mounting on the top of front RHS wing. Some body variants also have an additional Antenna mounting point on the top rear of the body module.
Not correct. Only selected (specialist) 6x6 vehicles are Fitted For Radio. Most 6x6 do not have the necessary battery set-up to operate radios.
It has been mentioned before that the PR-77 Radio is the Set most often fitted.
Not correct.
If the ARN is an RAAF rego, is it likely that a different Radio Set was installed with a frequency range more suited to Aviation ? Does anyone know which Radio Sets are used by RAAF ground vehicles?
RT-F100, RT-F200 & AN/PRC-77. RAAF also use additional hand held radios for some airfield work.
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What makes you think the base isn't a MX-6707?
Because it doesn't look like one!
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I can't recall the nomenclature off hand, but it's the antenna for the RT-F200.
Pete
P.S. at a guess..... I can't see any reason why it couldn't be used for a AN/PRC 77 Set as well.
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What makes you think the base isn't a MX-6707?
Because it doesn't look like one!
(http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1404.0;attach=2695;image)
But that is a different vehicle!
I commented on the one in the post.
(http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1404.0;attach=2682;image)
(http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1404.0;attach=2684;image)
And that sure looks like an MX-6707 to me.
OK, I can now see there's two vehicles in the post, the sun was on my monitor at work and the ARN/RAAF RN link was v hard to see.
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Appear to be a fairly common mount 303 :)
Radio setup in the second and third photos may give some clues. Could they be for the Raven sets?
Interestingly, the fourth photo shows a 6x6 with both types of aerial mount above the cab.
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The Ant. Matching Unit shown on the Ambulance is for the AS-3900 Ant system.
Looks like a AM6707 but doesn't have the Freq. Matching relays inside. Mounting thread on top is much
larger as well so requires different whip sections.
Used for the SINGARS or RAVEN series of radios.
Similiar uses for the other Mount as well but not sure if it's HF or VHF
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(http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1404.0;attach=2684;image)
Label text as follows
[Top] MATCHING UNIT - BASE ANTENNA MX - 6707/??C
[2nd line] SERIAL NO. [embossed] N
[3rd line] MT - GAIN ELECTRONICS DIVISION
[4th line] CONTRACT NO. DAAB07 - 83 - C - 8011 [last four digits unclear]
[5th line] NSN 5820 - 00 - 906 - 1115
[6th line] 24 VDC US
[Bottom] CAUTION: READ INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE USING
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Only 2 6x6 sold with radio fittings?
Not so the rebuild in bne was fitted with all the gear.
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So far, only 2 6x6s released through the auctions have evidence of radios actually being installed
Only 2 6x6 sold with radio fittings?
Not so the rebuild in bne was fitted with all the gear.
Was that before Sep 2013, Juddy?
And when you say "All the gear", you only refer to the 24v charging and distribution system (which has been present in lots of vehicles), not an actual radio installation?
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Every thing but the radio yes.
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Apparently the PRC77 sets currently in use with the Army reserves and cadet units are being retired.
I wonder if they will come onto the market, be given away as foreign aid or be crushed.
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Oohhh, how interesting. I was only commenting to somebody the other day how they are becoming more common.
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Apparently the PRC77 sets .......are being retired.
I wonder if they will come onto the market, be given away as foreign aid or be crushed.
I was talking about this to the curator/guide when we were at Pucka. Apparently, he is expecting a large number of examples arriving shortly which he will put to use in display vehicles. He understood they were still "restricted" property, and was surprised when I told him of the number that were getting about in private ownership.
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Mostly the ones in private ownership are imported. Mine are all imported, it seems that different countries have a different understanding of their treaties with the USA.
At least one of mine came out of Israel.
They could possibly be intercepted at customs if you don't have an appropriate licence to use at least part of the radios band. For the 77 sets, that would mean a Ham licence.
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They could possibly be intercepted at customs if you don't have an appropriate licence to use at least part of the radios band. For the 77 sets, that would mean a Ham licence.
... and your reference to customs regs for this is ? or is what you stated an assumption ?
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They could possibly be intercepted at customs if you don't have an appropriate licence to use at least part of the radios band. For the 77 sets, that would mean a Ham licence.
... and your reference to customs regs for this is ? or is what you stated an assumption ?
Get off your hobby horse Pete, your jibes do not affect me!
"The use and (sometimes) possession of radiocommunications equipment not specifically designed to comply with Australian standards may be illegal. There are penalties for operation, possession for the purpose of operation and supply of radiocommunications equipment that does not comply with applicable Australian standards" http://www.acma.gov.au/Citizen/Consumer-info/My-connected-home/Fixed-line-phones/bringing-communications-equipment-into-australia (http://www.acma.gov.au/Citizen/Consumer-info/My-connected-home/Fixed-line-phones/bringing-communications-equipment-into-australia)
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2013C00118 (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2013C00118)
And yes I have had items of radio equipment confiscated by Australian Customs. Some of it returned.
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Even the US do not know what they are doing I have imported several bits from there, batteries cables and ant mounts, hand mike etc but they knocked back a 77 set battery checker? Currently have antenna bag and full set of ant and base coming over so far no problems ;)
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They could possibly be intercepted at customs if you don't have an appropriate licence to use at least part of the radios band. For the 77 sets, that would mean a Ham licence.
... and your reference to customs regs for this is ? or is what you stated an assumption ?
Get off your hobby horse Pete, your jibes do not affect me!
"The use and (sometimes) possession of radiocommunications equipment not specifically designed to comply with Australian standards may be illegal. There are penalties for operation, possession for the purpose of operation and supply of radiocommunications equipment that does not comply with applicable Australian standards" http://www.acma.gov.au/Citizen/Consumer-info/My-connected-home/Fixed-line-phones/bringing-communications-equipment-into-australia (http://www.acma.gov.au/Citizen/Consumer-info/My-connected-home/Fixed-line-phones/bringing-communications-equipment-into-australia)
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2013C00118 (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2013C00118)
And yes I have had items of radio equipment confiscated by Australian Customs. Some of it returned.
I think you are selective quoting and therefore taking those words out of context . That ACMA guide relates to the importation for the purpose of operation and supply.
It does not relate to importation for the military collector (non operation) nor is it a Customs reg.
I and many people I know have never encounted these issue, as you describe them.
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Now now, l play nice children! I don't want any fighting >:(
When I bought 2 NOS antennas and bases from Crete (actually israel as it turned out) I had then stopped by customs and request further information. Maybe because it was military equipment from israel, not sure why, but I don't have a good understanding of customs as i have brought in very little personally of this nature. That said, a mate brought a Sabre in from the UK, and Tas Police would not grant 2 firearms exemptions for the 1 vehicle for the replca barrel of the main gun (not even the breech is there, leaves a nice spot to put your hat), and the flat plate replica of the coaxial machine gun. Sometimes the law, and it's officers, is an ass.
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No fighting mate. I'm just trying to correct misinformation.
Whether your import is questioned/held up because of weapon importation regs, ITARS or a suspect cost declaration is one thing - but to suggest there will be a problem if you do not have an amatuer radio license is simply not true.
Pete
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My radios are operational. Perhaps that is Customs concern, also AQIS confiscated some items because they were not new in undamaged packaging and they considered them contaminated.
Telecommunications devices were once restricted imports, and you required permits for the equipment to do so. This even extended to telephones. So today we are better off, but it is still up to the Customs Officer on duty to make the decisions and it can sometimes be an expensive excercise to challenge that decision.
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I didn't know that, but I suppose my shorter lifespan has seen a very different set of regulations in an increasingly global market (remember I was only born in 1981, sorry if that makes you feel old Diana ;) )
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1981!!!????!!!! Was that a typo or what????
AAaaaaaRGHHHHH!!! I'm feeling so ...... OLD!
Mike C
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Afraid not mike, I'm only 33 8) A child of the 80's (and ironically a display computer near me at the hub just started playing the Top Gun Anthem!)