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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2013, 03:57:44 PM »
Well, got to say this thread has more information and expertise regarding eras and units than StephenTaubert's book from 15 years back.

We are fortunate to have some knowledgeable members and many thanks are in order. Cheers to you all.

This thread definitely has info that would save loads of time (instead of looking all over the place) if it was on the REMLR page proper.

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2013, 04:36:30 PM »
Your spot on Glen , you do have to get it right for when you parade your vehicle, those in the know will be all over it. I know in the 80's 26 Tpt Sqn ,18 Tpt Sqn , and 16 Tpt Sqn ( ARES) made up 9 Tpt Regiment . I don't think 9 Regiment is on the ORBAT today.

The tac plate then was 9 over 510 white numerals royal blue plate with red sash.in regards to 26 Tpt Sqn the unit mascot was a camel which was stencilled onto the vehicles in 86 Tpt Tp, 87 Tpt Tp ( tipper) had the camel with a tipper hump and 158 Tpt Tp had the stalk with a tank in the sling.

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2013, 05:53:17 PM »
Well, got to say this thread has more information and expertise regarding eras and units than StephenTaubert's book from 15 years back.

We are fortunate to have some knowledgeable members and many thanks are in order. Cheers to you all.

This thread definitely has info that would save loads of time (instead of looking all over the place) if it was on the REMLR page proper.

 :) excellent
Too right Carzee

Stephen T's book could do with an update to cover the many recent changes particularly the low vis signage, but is still an excellent resource.  Does anyone know if hes still around?

On the camels etc, its sad to see the Inter S lines with the door art coming through the auctions.  That is unless I can get my hands on one!  8)
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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2013, 06:04:15 PM »
26 Tpt Sqn the unit mascot was a camel which was stencilled onto the vehicles

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2013, 06:06:39 PM »
  26 Tpt Sqn the unit mascot was a camel which was stencilled onto the vehicles 

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2013, 07:25:52 PM »
Wasn't the red tac with swords, kangaroo and crown actually Field Force Command, the emphasis being on the command or HQ.  Other units in the divisions were the kangaroo over crossed swords with the roman numeral for which one over the red background for CMF/Army Reserve and green background for Regular Army units.
Was that (shudder) rising sun with the Keating star ever used officially on military signs. I have my doubts but could be wrong.
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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2013, 09:22:22 PM »
Its from Stephen Taubert's book, so  assume so.

Is this better?

Or this one?

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2013, 03:53:56 PM »
Hi everyone,

The red skippy with crown and crossed swords is the "Field Force " command tac plate. Training command is the the kangaroo, crown and crossed swords with green , yellow, green hoops( stripes) background and Logistic's Command was the Kangaroo , crown, crossed swords with red, blue ,red hoops background.

The kangaroo and crossed swords with the number 1 in gold on a green background was the 1st Division formation sign and was made up of the 1st Brigade in Sydney, 6th Brigade in Brisbane, and the 3rd Brigade in Townsville .

So a vehicle from 8/9 RAR would have a tac sign 62/63 on a red background and the 1st Div Formation sign. A 1RAR vehicle would have a tac plate 55 on a red background and a 1st Div formation plate.  I hope that helps?
I think training command units ( Training schools) had their corpses colour as a background and a three digit number I think?

Hope that helps

Mick


Many thanks for all your replies again! It may be misleading but I use the term 'Field Force" as that's what my brother-in-law uses. His memory is a bit hazy. As he was at Simpson Barracks (School of Sigs) I assume one of the TAC plates would've been red '941'over the RASIGS colours. The other one I thought would've been the 'Field Force' plate he refers to (green 'skippy' without number '1') but, it now seems possible from what Diana and Mick have posted that the Training Command TAC might've been the other one?

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2013, 04:22:58 PM »
Here are the TAC plates from 28 Commonwealth Brigade, 208 Sig Sqn, Alpha Troop, Malacca 1965. The colours are the closest I could get using an original colour patch sample. This is one unit my b-in-law served in for 2 years before reassigning to PIR in Wewak



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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2013, 05:06:10 PM »
Stephen Taubert describes the Cwealth formation sign with the crown with a white background rather than the pale blue coming through.

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2013, 08:49:09 PM »
Ah, many thanks. I was always worried it mightn't be quite right.

 
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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2013, 09:16:31 PM »
Stephen Taubert describes the Cwealth formation sign with the crown with a white background rather than the pale blue coming through.

Are the colours in this sample an accurate representation of the book's image? I ask as when I save it to my computer the blues redden a little.  :-[ If they are I can get the PMS colour no.s

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2013, 10:26:11 PM »
Others may know more, but I thought the Army used standard colours.  When you open images from the Formation Signs CD ROM the reds on several signs are different so the wole book may be no better than your colour choice.

From the preface it seems the autor was at least at some time a serving soldier and the publication undertaken with a research grant from the Army.  From the credits it appears the signs were drawings done for the book and not from Army image files. The signs are all signed in the bottom LH corner.

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2013, 12:00:43 AM »
Yes I think they did too, same as British colours I believe. The white background around the crown is correct, it matches the cloth colour patch. My oversight which will cost $

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Re: Replica TAC plates
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2013, 01:18:04 PM »
I am pretty sure that the Tac sign on the left would have been a red "1" on a white over blue background rather than a white over black background. I am also pretty sure that there were no Australian vehicles over there then, the Aussies were posted to what were originally Brit Units (but renamed "Commonwealth Brigade") and used Brit vehicles and equipment.
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