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Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« on: January 31, 2013, 08:40:59 AM »
For those of you that haven't seen the news, it looks like vehicles will start appearing for sale soon, although I doubt the first ones will be the one to buy as defence probably want too much for them after the T5's sold for decent money, but down the track better price and condition vehicles could well be a bargain.

http://www.news.com.au/national/australian-defence-force-to-sell-off-thousands-of-vehicles-and-other-war-equipment/story-fncynjr2-1226565344839
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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2013, 08:57:55 AM »
Silly over priced land rovers springs to mind, all the dealers will be rubbing there hands, and at first they will be alot on Interest and from non land rover people, then it will all go calm, the next lot will coming along and like you said prices will start to drop....
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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2013, 10:16:46 AM »
I'll believe it when i see it, I remember a similar article about 3 years ago!, Of interest is the 600 armoured vehicles, i wonder what they will be as the 113's cant be sold to civvys.

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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2013, 10:44:29 AM »
I think a lot of dealers have been burnt by the last sales of the Remediation TD5 models.  A dealer had one on a lot near me and it stayed there for over 6 months the price coming down to less than they paid at auction (IMHO still $10K-$15K too much) in the end he just wanted it off the lot.
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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2013, 12:52:11 PM »
Those Td5 prices some were up at 40k, are just plain stupid, you try and give the model year for your road insurance, and they will come back and tell you is worth 12k, not 40k.

I think 10-15k should be the price range for these, why don't we all go to the auction and bid low, i think it would be very Interesting to see whos buying these and for what price.
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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2013, 02:30:36 PM »
I thought they may have been worth $17,000 because most had less than 100K on the clock.  However when DMO puts a reserve of $20K or $21K they started off at an unrealistic price.

I do however think that the dealer networks will have been burned by the prices and saleability of the remediation TD5 models.  It could be a better story for us with the perentie sales, although undoubtedly the early sales will fetch higher prices until the current demand for the Isuzu landies is met. 
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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2013, 02:43:50 PM »
Believe it, the auctions are due to start mid feb to early march.  Hopefully the perenties will come in at a better figure because of their age, but a lot (all) have been rebuilt lately.
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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2013, 02:46:22 PM »
Press Release

Minister for Defence Materiel – Sale of 12,000 retired Army vehicles
31 January 2013

 Minister for Defence Materiel Jason Clare today announced that contract
negotiations for the sale of up to 12,000 Army non-combat vehicles and
trailers are now complete.

“The vehicles will be sold by Australian National Disposals, a new
Australian-owned business based in New South Wales,” Mr Clare said.

Mr Clare said sale of the vehicles gives Australians a chance to buy their
own part of Australian military history.

“The Army vehicles being sold include the Army Land Rovers, Mack trucks,
Unimogs, motorcycles, trailers and all terrain vehicles,” he said.

“The sale of these vehicles is expected to raise more than $100 million.
Their average age is 25 to 30 years old and they have average of 125,000
kms on the clock.”

The vehicles will be sold to Australian and overseas markets in order to
maximise the financial return to the Commonwealth.

The first vehicle sales are expected to begin March 2013 and will
progressively be sold to Australian National Disposals as the vehicles are
retired from the Army over the next decade.

A number of vehicles will be reserved and offered exclusively to community
and heritage organisations, including the Australian War Memorial, RSLs and
other historical organisations.

Interested parties can register their interest with the Defence Disposals
Agency at www.defence.gov.au/dda or via e-mail to disposals@defence.gov.au.

The B vehicles will be replaced by new vehicles under Project LAND 121 –
Overlander.

This is part of the biggest disposal of military equipment since World War
II.

Over the next 15 years the Australian Defence Force will replace or upgrade
up to 85 per cent of its equipment.
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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2013, 04:09:26 PM »
A hard top will do first off. then a 6x6 comms body...
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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2013, 07:01:38 PM »
Press Release

Minister for Defence Materiel – Sale of 12,000 retired Army vehicles
31 January 2013

 Minister for Defence Materiel Jason Clare today announced that contract
negotiations for the sale of up to 12,000 Army non-combat vehicles and
trailers are now complete.

“The vehicles will be sold by Australian National Disposals, a new
Australian-owned business based in New South Wales,” Mr Clare said.

Mr Clare said sale of the vehicles gives Australians a chance to buy their
own part of Australian military history.

“The Army vehicles being sold include the Army Land Rovers, Mack trucks,
Unimogs, motorcycles, trailers and all terrain vehicles,” he said.

“The sale of these vehicles is expected to raise more than $100 million.
Their average age is 25 to 30 years old and they have average of 125,000
kms on the clock.”

The vehicles will be sold to Australian and overseas markets in order to
maximise the financial return to the Commonwealth.


The first vehicle sales are expected to begin March 2013 and will
progressively be sold to Australian National Disposals as the vehicles are
retired from the Army over the next decade.

A number of vehicles will be reserved and offered exclusively to community
and heritage organisations, including the Australian War Memorial, RSLs and
other historical organisations.

Interested parties can register their interest with the Defence Disposals
Agency at www.defence.gov.au/dda or via e-mail to disposals@defence.gov.au.

The B vehicles will be replaced by new vehicles under Project LAND 121 –
Overlander.

This is part of the biggest disposal of military equipment since World War
II.

Over the next 15 years the Australian Defence Force will replace or upgrade
up to 85 per cent of its equipment.

I hate it when a 'middle man' is involved. They will undoubtedly want their profit margins to be as high as possible. Say goodbuy to the good old days of scoring a bargain.

Will they send all the good gear overseas as they are more likely to get a higher return from foreign governments.
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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2013, 12:02:44 AM »
With our dollar being strong they will possibly get a better deal here...

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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2013, 12:13:28 AM »
Of course they will , all the good ones will go abroad, and it could work both ways, either cheap as chips, or silly 50k each, you know what some of these wheller dealers are like.
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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2013, 06:42:40 AM »
Good Morning all

Been at Prominent Hill for the past few days and missed the news.

All I can say is I will be in line, now to work out what is a reasonable price for a GS with winch & trailer..

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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2013, 08:02:58 AM »
I'm sure that there will still be some bargains, or so I am told  ;)  Expecially rougher vehicles that need a bit of resorative work.  I doubt very much that they will have not noticed our existance as a target for their sales.

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Re: Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2013, 08:36:10 AM »
Well, I will look at what comes up for sale, but unless I come into a swag of cash I won't be buying anything. I like the Mog's though, but methinks I will just be looking. I wouldn't buy a 110 (not that I don't like them) as I have driven my 84 Isuzu County since 2001 I think, so why buy a 110 GS, anyway good luck to those of you who can afford to buy, I hope you enjoy them, cheers Dennis