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Re: Is there a place here for modified ex army Land Rovers?
« Reply #150 on: November 26, 2019, 08:51:09 AM »
Gíday BEARMAN,

Iím inclined to agree with your assessment as per how the bolt broke.

If all the other bolts were tight then it would change the whole narrative, but because I discovered 2 other loose bolts 1/4 of the way around the crown wheel when having a quick scout, that kind of suggests Iíll find a couple or more loose ones when I get around to replacing them.

The sheer point was at the first thread, which is about 1/3 rd the length of the bolt, so it seems strange, at least to me.

I just tried to find the broken bolt to take a photo but I canít locate it at the moment, too much junk piled up around the workshop from the plethora of broken vehicles I work on.

Mine had Loctite on them, but as I mentioned in an earlier post, the threadlock had failed on the 2 other loose ones I found, so Iím inclined to think that for whatever reason, thatís potentially the cause, along with the brutal life this diff leads in that itís equipped with a Detroit Locker.

I never reconditioned the diffs when I built the vehicle as they hadnít done much work, and I was told theyíd been recently rebuilt by the previous owner when he fitted the high speed gearing.

I suppose it was my own fault for not having checked them over way back then.

I was already aware of the punishment the drivetrain is copping as Iíd already had to resolve a similar problem at the drive flange bolts, where theyíd snap or come loose frequently. I resolved that by drilling and tapping those to take M12 cap heads, which has so far done the trick, but in so doing, Iíve only moved the problem to the next weakest point. I donít really know where that will potentially be, given that the universals etc are super tough, being the same as those used on the Ford GT 351 vehicles, or so I believe, but whatever, the problem will no doubt manifest somewhere else in time.

Now that the drive flanges are sorted and the crown wheel is on its way to being done, it only moves the weak point again, perhaps into the transfer box?

I met the bloke who designed and machined the parts for Marks Adaptors to suit the Nissan box, but he reckons the transfer box is built to a standard beyond what Iím subjecting it to so who knows where the next weak link will manifest.

Thatís why I donít run wider tyres nor wheel offsets.

Itís all a learning curve I suppose and trying to fathom things is half the battle.

Thatís why I sold the vehicle after building it, I was over the challenge and wanted to get away from it, having built too many vehicles over my lifetime.

Iím trying to get my mojo back but itís still tepid at this point.

Iíll have to pull my finger out and get this thing going again soon as itís starting to bug me...

Too much to do and scant time in which to do it.


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Re: Is there a place here for modified ex army Land Rovers?
« Reply #151 on: November 29, 2019, 04:52:50 AM »
Finally got the rear diff sorted.

The broken bolt was extracted by wedging a screwdriver into the crown wheel mating face and prying it apart enough to get a small pair of pointy nosed vice grips in and bingo, the broken bolt backed out relatively easy.

I just need to put oil in it, bleed the brakes, and check the oils in the front diff, gearbox, transfer box, and itíll be back on the road.

I fitted a new radiator to my other car yesterday also, and Iím pretty happy with that too, it went smoothly.

Thinking of driving the 109 up onto some steep ramps and washing the inside out because itís picked up a lot of dust in the last few years.

Iím over the spring/parabolic height nonsense.
Iíll have to get springs made for it. Wasted too much time with the spring issue. Had enough!

The 109 still needs a million things done to get it back to how it was envisioned to be but itís getting there slowly.
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Re: Is there a place here for modified ex army Land Rovers?
« Reply #152 on: November 29, 2019, 09:46:40 PM »
Almost finished the basic chores necessary to get the 109 back on the road.

Need to pull all the wheels off and put new screws in the brake drums, then check the oil levels in the gearbox, transfer box and front diff. Then it should be pretty much ready to go.

I canít remember if the hubs on the front diff are separate to the diff itself, requiring their own oil, or if they get their oil supplied from the diff. I suppose Iíll find out somehow.

Might lift the front off the ground and suss out the steering and relay.

Today the 109 got a wash inside, not with a sponge though.

I removed the few items I had sitting in the back, then let fly with a truck wash I use on a fleet I maintain, then rinsed the daylights out of it.

A workmate freaked out when he arrived about an hour after I did it, to find water still running out the doors and tailgate.

If ya gonna wash a Land Rover, ya donít stroke around.

If ya canít flood them out then you havenít built them properly.

No harm came from it.

I was a bit surprised and how much dust came out. It wasnít nearly as much as I expected.

I might bring it back home on Sunday and start using it as my daily starting Monday.

Still need to figure out how to install some kind of air conditioning too.

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Re: Is there a place here for modified ex army Land Rovers?
« Reply #153 on: December 03, 2019, 11:20:42 AM »
The plan to drive the 109 has been placed on hold for the moment.

Iíve discovered an oil leak at the output shaft on the transfer box.

Iím unhappy with the amount of play in the output shaft too, so I feel compelled to look into it.

Iíve seem a Youtube tutorial which seemed to explain some of it, so further research is necessary.

I did test drive it to check out the diffs and transfer box and theyíre all working as theyíre supposed to.

Oil levels in the front diff and gearbox were where they should be, but the transfer box wanted 800ml, and that appears to be solely attributable to the output shaft issue.


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Re: Is there a place here for modified ex army Land Rovers?
« Reply #154 on: December 18, 2019, 08:53:05 PM »
I still havenít done anything further to the 109 since my last post.

The weather has been knocking me around a bit, such that finding the energy to work on it just isnít happening.

I drove it today though, just to see what it was like and it drove well enough, though it seemed a bit light on power wise.

I basically used it to carry some tools to another site in order to swap out a problematic fuel pump on a 98 K3500 Silverado 4x4.

As I was about to head back, I asked to borrow a timing light as mine didnít arrive with all my tools etc when I had the 109 transported up from Victoria, and I knew the distributor drive gear had failed and that the timing wasnít done when the dizzy went back in, so I was eager to time it.

Turns out the timing was not even on the timing tab, so a quick reset was done and yeah, that helped a lot.

Iím just nursing it as I want to resolve the play in the output shaft before I start launching it around, but I can already feel that itís going to perform much the same as I remembered it.

Early next week Iíll get stuck into it as I wouldnít mind using it over the Christmas break, though the sergeant major is still harping on about me fitting the passenger side step for her but I keep telling her that I need to install the left side fuel tank first.

She points out that Iíve been telling her the same story for about 10 years but thatís simply not true, itís really only been about 9 and a half years.




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Re: Is there a place here for modified ex army Land Rovers?
« Reply #155 on: December 20, 2019, 10:15:17 PM »
Today I finished working for the year so hopefully now Iíll be able to devote some time to the 109.

Iím very disappointed in the indicator and brake light lenses I fitted a number of years ago, as theyíve all faded like crazy, so I ordered a replacement set and went about fitting them today but it wasnít to be. The assemblies have all fallen to bits from UV exposure.

I think I wrote about the dodgy plastic assemblies all those years ago and from memory I was only putting up with them until I found suitable LED lights to swap them out with.

Iím not that impressed with whatís on offer Iím afraid and am leaning towards sourcing the original steel assemblies and just fitting LED globes to those in order to retain the vintage look.

Itís been suggested to fit modern LED strip type lights to it but I simply couldnít do that, they would spoil the look I reckon.
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Re: Is there a place here for modified ex army Land Rovers?
« Reply #156 on: January 04, 2020, 04:52:47 PM »
Happy New Year everyone.

I havenít been near the 109 over the break as Iím still resting my eye but finally the occlusion is dissipating, slowly but surely.

Itís taken months to reach this point and Iíve still got another month to wait for my appointment with the eye surgeon, who I already know is unable to do much to help me.

Iím just grateful that my sight is returning.

Santa brought me (coz I havenít been too naughty) a 500 Lumen spotlight and a red dot laser to attach to my handgun so I was pretty happy with that.

The light allows me to see my sight picture a bit better and the laser looks like itíll really help too, but itís all cumbersome.


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Re: Is there a place here for modified ex army Land Rovers?
« Reply #157 on: January 05, 2020, 09:16:16 AM »
Iíve made up my mind about which way Iíll go with regards to the indicator lights, parkers and brakes.

Iíve decided to go back to the original style steel bodied lights but this time with glass lenses.

Iíll fit LED globes to them and see how they go but I reckon they should be sweet.

Once I get back to work Iíll buy them. Theyíre a bit dear at about $50 a light but thatís the way she goes...

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« Reply #158 on: January 10, 2020, 10:01:12 AM »
Hooray! Iím finally regaining the sight in my right eye. Itís been a long long time, too long, but itís slowly settling down.
Just the fact that I can see better, albeit marginally, improves my attitude and motivation level.

Noticed something odd this morning while flicking through my subscriptions on Youtube, where ďseriously seriesĒ put up a new video and the series 3 they used to highlight the video, well it just looked odd.

I mean, it looks straight and neat front on, impressive if you ask me, with a similar profile to my 109 I think, but there was something about it that just seemed foreign, and this caused me to flick back through pictures of my 109 as well as myriad pictures of series 3 vehicles via Google in order to suss out what was the standard layout for the parking light and blinker on a series 3.

I vaguely recall trying to figure this out when I rebuilt the 109 all those years ago, but from memory I think I just settled on copying what the majority of people had, which was parker up top and blinker down below, so after seeing the ďseriously seriesĒ picture, where the blinker is up top, it got me searching online again this morning to suss out what was what.

Iím sure the placement of the indicators and parkers were covered by an ADR rule but I just canít be bothered trying to find that, so I decided Iíd try to figure it out by looking at multiple images of series 3 Land Rovers online, and try to see what was standard that way.

Most show the blinker on the bottom, which is how mine is, and from memory I think I somehow determined that to be the standard.

Itís strange to flick through hundreds of images looking at just the indicators and parking light positions, because every now and then you see the placement has been reversed and it kind of catches you off guard.

Iím not entirely sure but I think the ADR relating to indicators and lights on a series 3 mightnít apply to an ex army vehicle as they had a number of exemptions from new.

I still love the fact that my 109 has the 27a exemption, which few people know about, and was indeed news to me when I purchased the vehicle, but during the rebuild when I was doing the research on what I could and couldnít get away with, I discovered the missing 27a on the compliance plate and that sent me off in many different directions, looking for the ďwhyĒ.

Tool holders bolted to the front panels are another one. I cringe whenever I see a non military Land Rover with tool holders bolted onto them and I wonder how shocked those people will be if ever a savvy lawman wheels them over.

Who uses their tool holders, really?

Theyíre shocking bits of gear if ever you need to lean up and over into the engine bay, for theyíll gouge you in a number of ways. My ribs hurt just reflecting on the number of times I copped it when working on mine, or what about the little split pins they used to have in them? Anyone whoís worked on an ex army banger will fondly recall being fanged by those blasted split pins. I removed mine and threw them far far away.

I can recall losing the plot over my tool holders while rebuilding the 109 and removed them at some stage and refitted them after all the engine bay work was done. They were the last things to go back on, weeks later, if I remember correctly.

I donít use my tool holders for anything other than cracking jokes with, stuff like how these are the only vehicles on the road where the potential for some serious road rage is openly on display, in that the weapons are openly  carried, so to speak.

Youíve got your pick handle right there, along with the axe, either are just a wing nut away from deployment, and the shovel is on the opposite side just in case you need to plant your victim and the mattock head is there too, in case the digging gets too hard.

I remember going to great lengths to acquire genuine tools for mine but theyíre all lost now and I canít be buggered searching out new ones for theyíre a total hassle in that theyíre easily stolen and are too expensive to replace.

I suppose the ďlookĒ of the ex army series vehicles is what attracts people to them for they do have a tough look about them, and looks are often deceptive.

My childhood dream to own a series 3 army Land Rover were probably driven by how rugged they looked, and as a kid I hadnít any idea about what made them tick but I liked them and just had to have one.

Iím still at a loss as to how any government could deploy them where bullets are flying and get away with it.
A stark reminder of this can be found if one looks at images of the series 2a vehicles which were ambushed in Vietnam.
Coke cans on wheels...
Those are some haunting images.

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Re: Is there a place here for modified ex army Land Rovers?
« Reply #159 on: January 10, 2020, 11:13:25 AM »
What about a spare wheel carried atop the bonnet, thatís another interesting one.

Without a wheel upon it, the bonnet is super light weight and effortless to lift, but trying to climb into the engine bay is probably not much different to encountering a mouse trap. Youíre not a true ex army series Land Rover  owner until youíve banged your head on the bonnet and bumped the bracket that holds the bonnet up at the same time.

I have a genuine love hate relationship going on with my spare wheel carrier atop my bonnet.

It all started out nicely enough as I had the factory spare wheel holder in the tub behind the drivers seat and was using that, but the look of the spare wheel atop the bonnet soon overtook the practicality element.

I then got rid of the in tub wheel carrier as I fitted later model seats in the tub, so my spare wheel was relegated to the bonnet for good.

You have to be the son of Hercules to open the bonnet now, and I canít help wondering if thatís half the reason for the pre enlistment medical/physical exam.

Can you do push ups?
How many?
Chin up?

They should have just asked, can you clean and jerk a Land Rover bonnet or better yet, just had the potential recruits demonstrate their strength by doing it for real.
They could have had them filing past a series Land Rover just past the front door, and that first test would have weeded out many of the young hopefuls.

Aside the crazy weight atop the bonnet, those domed aviation style rivets are only good for so long before they start worrying through and thus that day came for me at the same time as having completed the big rebuild.
Iíd removed the spare wheel in order to remove the bonnet, which is just 1x split pin and washer then lift, itís off and one can then climb up and over...without hindrance or mouse trap effect.

Upon refitting the bonnet, I was placing the spare wheel back on when one of the few remained rivets broke, leaving the wheel carrier affixed by only a couple or three other rivets.

A quick look and it was then made apparent that several of the rivets had snapped or worked their way through the aluminium bonnet, but you couldnít see that from outside the bonnet where the heads were for they all looked normal, though a couple were a bit loose and could be turned with your fingers.

I was pretty surprised and counted my blessings at having it happen right then and there for had it not happened, the odds were that the next decent bump in the road and whoosh, bye bye spare wheel.
The height of the wheel and the sliding forward may have planted the spare in through the back window of some little old ladyís car too, so yeah I was grateful for the problem showing itself when it did.

Still, as I get older and all my injuries let me know theyíre still my friends, I still carry that wheel atop my bonnet.

Itís like the barn door, itís perfect for me as it allows me to mount the spare wheel at the rear of the vehicle, which is a huge plus for weight distribution, and it kind of looks ok, but I still canít shake my love affair with the tailgate and cat flap.

I know that as each year passes that Iím finding it harder and harder to climb into the back of my 109, so one day I will refit the barn door and save myself the drama, but in doing that Iíll probably want to hang another wheel off that too, not because I need 2x spare wheels, but because itíll look the part.

First things first, stop being a sook and stop being lazy and get it back on the road, itís only a few short hours away from being ready to drive again, so....maybe tomorrow.
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« Reply #160 on: January 10, 2020, 12:28:45 PM »

 as well as myriad pictures of series 3 vehicles via Google in order to suss out what was the standard layout for the parking light and blinker on a series 3.

I vaguely recall trying to figure this out when I rebuilt the 109 all those years ago, but from memory I think I just settled on copying what the majority of people had, which was parker up top and blinker down below, so after seeing the ďseriously seriesĒ picture, where the blinker is up top, it got me searching online again this morning to suss out what was what.


If you just google series 3 pics you will see most have the blinker on the bottom but most of the pics are of overseas vehicles.  Australian Series 3 all had the blinkers on the top.  If you google "Australian Land Rover Series 3 pics" you will see the pics show a mix of mil and civilian series 3s - low and short wheelbase and they all have blinkers on the top.

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« Reply #161 on: January 10, 2020, 12:33:15 PM »
Thanks Garry.

Iíve got them all pulled out atm and Iím about to order some shiny new ones, so when I refit them this time Iíll swap them around to get them right.

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« Reply #162 on: January 21, 2020, 10:26:12 PM »
The glass indicator/brake/parking lights arrived today and well, Iím really happy with them.
Iíll fit them this week and finally begin using it as my daily driver.

Iíd forgotten how light the 109ís are, but was reminded of that today when I used it to pull a Toro zero steer mower out of a swamp where it sank down to its chassis.

Using a strap, it took a few goes before it finally yanked up and out of the bog.
I didnít engage 4x4, just relied on the locked rear diff to do the job.

Still weighing up the options with regards to air conditioning, still havenít decided which way to go with that yet.

Itís been really difficult these last couple of weeks just doing my job.
Getting old and fat, plus the weather has been off its head.

I imported 2x Miracool water vests before Xmas and have been wearing one to try to cool my core temperature during the day and the vest is amazing in heat, but it struggles in humid weather.

I used to wear a Miracool vest when I was working out in the Cooper Basin and it worked phenomenally out there so Iím waiting for this rain to boot off so we can get back to regular heat, and to where the vest works.

Crazy weather.

Somehow managed to get my face badly sunburned last friday, and suffered all weekend with that. That was with sunscreen on too.
I think I copped it via the polish Iím using on a truck Iím working on.
Pretty sure thatís where I got it as my eyes got fried too.

Been looking at solar powered mini split air conditioning systems  too, with a view to installing one in the 109.
Not sure if thatíll happen yet as it may still be cheaper to fit a universal regular compressor driven one yet, though fitting the pump isnít going to be easy .


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« Reply #163 on: February 01, 2020, 10:16:17 AM »
Todayís the day...this time for sure.

I know Iíve been saying Iím going to get the 109 back on the road for days, weeks, months and Iíve meant to, but health dramas and work commitments keep intervening.

Finally got my eye surgeon appointment set for this coming Monday morning, and while itíll be good to get a checkup, Iíve known for years that thereís nothing they can do to help me.

Thatís what Central Serous Retinopathy, coupled with laser exposure and acute UV damage will get ya...

Work has been hectic and well, that never stops.

Iíve been breaking in the new cooling vest I imported from the USA a few weeks ago and itís helping to keep my core body temperature down, but it canít help reduce my ever expanding belly.

I had to lengthen the velcro straps as my rapid weight gain has forced me out of all my clothing and work clothes.

Copping a bit of ribbing for getting so fat so fast, but I canít complain too much as I was thin and athletic all my life and I figure itís probably ok to let myself go a bit now, though having said that, the extra weight restricts me in more ways than I ever imagined.

Ahh well, way she goes...

The plan today is to get a haircut, do a mandatory rolling comp at the pistol club, wire up the lights on the 109, then whipper snip and mow...

Then have a few beers...

Iíve attached an image of the cooling vest so people understand what Iím talking about.

Anyone struggling with the heat would do well to look at sourcing one of these, for theyíre simply fantastic in dry heat, but in humid heat theyíre a bit less effective. They weigh a bit too, so if youíre on your feet all day theyíll take a good week or so to adjust to.

I used to wear these years ago when I was marching through many of the deserts in Australia, where my colleagues were literally half my age and I found the vest gave me quite an advantage.

I used to wear the vest under my shirt but lately Iíve been wearing it over the top of my work clothes, mostly because Iím now really struggling to get into my clothes and thereís no room for the vest.

Looks like I just have to get new clothes.

Oh well, better get this day underway...

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« Reply #164 on: February 01, 2020, 06:30:14 PM »
Phew, been at it for a few hours and am pleased theyíre installed, though Iím yet to wire them up.

Fiddly things theyíve proven to be.

Had to pre wire each light prior to installation and regret not looking at the job more closely before starting the install as the paint on the rear quarter metal sections is in need of a do over.

Didnít notice that all the silver has degenerated beyond redemption over the last heap of years.

The paint on the body panels wants a good polish up, as does the powder coating, but unfortunately the silver canít be saved.

Iíll have to look at doing that again in future.

Biggest gripe with the new lights, isnít to do with the lights themselves, for even being a bit fiddly, they werenít that hard to put in.

The magnificent wiring job I did when I rebuilt the vehicle didnít allow for any excess, and all the wires were trimmed to nice tight lengths and were tucked away out of harms way, thus now that Iíve ditched the other lights in favour of these glass ones, thereís not a lot of wire to play with.

I swapped the stop lights from the bottom spot to the top this time and was going to swap the front parkers from top spot to bottom, but that short wire issue stopped me.

I can always rewire everything later but itíll have to be bodged up for now as I really need this thing back on the road.

Probably not going to finish it today but will attack it again tomorrow.

Iíll have to get used to looking at these new lights for theyíre a lot different to the old ones, but I think theyíll grow on me.