Author Topic: Mechanical Issues to watch out for when buying new Perentie straight from AFM.  (Read 1630 times)

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I debated whether to buy into this discussion but in the end decided I would.
I have had a fair bit to do with the ACCO,Blitz, GMC and jeeps (the real ones).
I have also had a 2A Land Rover in the past. So I would not consider myself a novice around military vehicles but I am relatively new to the perentie and have sought advice from this forum as well as others. How else are you suppose to learn?
The original poster is a newbie who is trying to get some advice and I think that is a very fair request that should be supported!!!
As for KLR I had a turbo fitted by them and they did a workmanlike job at a fair price. Not saying the sun shines out of anywhere just my experience with them to date.
And yes I have owned a few Valiants in my time as well and there were a mob in Brookvale called Tilley's who helped out new Valiant owners so whats changed?

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Back to the original question......
There are several things that need to be checked the same as you would when you were buying any 25 + year old vehicle
To name a few that you need to check before you drive it:
Drive flange bolts
All the tailshaft nuts/bolts
 all fluids
 all filters
Check and replace battery if necessary
Check fuses for corrosion
Check tyres for age and damage
Drain the fuel sedementer
Fill with diesel
Just to name a few.

Once you get it home flush and replace all fluids and filters
Have the radiator serviced
Enjoy!!!!!

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Check tie rods too. Iin 2014 I drove 260km home after using the AFM blue slip to get new number plates brought down the road from Minto.  And I got a number 5 trailer as well, so the clunk on deceleration and acceleration was presumed to be a pintle noise but it was coming from the rear A Frame balljoint above the rear diff -as it turned out the castellated nut was MIA and the balljoint thread ruined. Expect the unexpected.

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If you buy from the minto auction they come with a NSW roadworthy...

Which means bugger all about mechanical condition and possibly even roadworthiness judging from some posts about faults found...


Lots of sad arses around today...

Maybe, but it is the truth. The certificate is not a check of all the things you need to know before you buy and there are proven instances of vehicles at these auctions being unsafe for the road even though a certificate has been issued. My point, sad arse or not, is that a buyer is ipunwise to depend on the certificate when making a buying decision.

Has any of that hearsay been reported ? or are the keyboard warriors just happy enough to play the 'I know more than you game' ?

Back to the original poster who asked about vehicle roadworthy - yes, a roadworthy is provided.

Furthermore, at pick up you can take it straight to RMS and get it registered. The one at Gregory Hills is recommended, as they have done heaps and are familiar with the paperwork.

Macarthur Service Centre
Steer Road
Gregory Hills NSW 2557

Email: info@service.nsw.gov.au
Phone: 13 77 88

At pick up, check oils and brake resevior lid - idiots have been known to remove these on the inspection days.

After registration, give the vehicle a once over if you have the knowledge or book it into your mechanic. There are things that need to be checked that are not applicable to a vehicle roadworthy.

Then get out and off road with friends and enjoy it. Learn how it behaves off road and what might need further tweaks or setup to your preferences.

Cheers.


« Last Edit: January 14, 2018, 08:17:13 AM by AGAS 5 »
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If you buy from the minto auction they come with a NSW roadworthy...

Which means bugger all about mechanical condition and possibly even roadworthiness judging from some posts about faults found...


Lots of sad arses around today...

Maybe, but it is the truth. The certificate is not a check of all the things you need to know before you buy and there are proven instances of vehicles at these auctions being unsafe for the road even though a certificate has been issued. My point, sad arse or not, is that a buyer is ipunwise to depend on the certificate when making a buying decision.

Has any of that hearsay been reported ? or are the keyboard warriors just happy enough to play the 'I know more than you game' ?

Back to the original poster who asked about vehicle roadworthy - yes, a roadworthy is provided.

Furthermore, at pick up you can take it straight to RMS and get it registered. The one at Gregory Hills is recommended, as they have done heaps and are familiar with the paperwork.

Macarthur Service Centre
Steer Road
Gregory Hills NSW 2557

Email: info@service.nsw.gov.au
Phone: 13 77 88

At pick up, check oils and brake resevior lid - idiots have been known to remove these on the inspection days.

After registration, give the vehicle a once over if you have the knowledge or book it into your mechanic. There are things that need to be checked that are not applicable to a vehicle roadworthy.

Then get out and off road with friends and enjoy it. Learn how it behaves off road and what might need further tweaks or setup to your preferences.

Cheers.

The other bit I forgot to add, if you're on facebook there are a number of groups that you can socialise with or ask questions. Search for:

'Registry of Ex Military Land Rovers - discussion group'

'Land Rover Perentie Owners'

'Perentie Owners Australia'

and probably others...






Series 2A SWB 113-300 VTF
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Or should i just bring a mechanic or study the service history?

Nick,
My advice would be to go to the inspection days early, no point getting there late in the day and running out of time, and take your mechanic, could be money well spent, and go over them with a fine tooth comb,
Oh, and don't forget to study the log books.

Make a list of vehicles that you feel have too many faults to bother bidding on,
Then make up a list of vehicles that suit your desired use,
Work out if some faults are ok to buy, given ease and cost of repairs, remember, 2 vehicles might be in the same overall condition, but one might have a couple of small faults. That vehicle might make less at auction than the other, but with a few parts and some labour, you might end up with money in your pocket.

End up with a list of vehicles that you would be happy to have any one of them at home.
Then work out how much you are willing to pay, don't forget to factor in the buyers premium and GST.

Then watch the action and bid if you so desire.
Good luck.

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Back to the original poster who asked about vehicle roadworthy - yes, a roadworthy is provided.

Furthermore, at pick up you can take it straight to RMS and get it registered. The one at Gregory Hills is recommended, as they have done heaps and are familiar with the paperwork.


I note that the Perenties come with a blue slip, including the 6x6. Is a blue slip applicable to the 6x6? I understood that blue slips were only for vehicles up to 4.5 tons GVM, and that something more rigorous (brown slip?) was needed for light trucks. I find the RMA website a bit hard to follow... does anyone know what is needed for the 6x6?

Cheers, Paul

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Back to the original poster who asked about vehicle roadworthy - yes, a roadworthy is provided.

Furthermore, at pick up you can take it straight to RMS and get it registered. The one at Gregory Hills is recommended, as they have done heaps and are familiar with the paperwork.


I note that the Perenties come with a blue slip, including the 6x6. Is a blue slip applicable to the 6x6? Anyone know what is needed for the 6x6?

Cheers, Paul
Yes, Blue Slip is OK for a 6x6. When you do register it, it is registered under code RT0 as a 2 AXLE TRUCK, as the rear axles are less than 1 metre apart they are regarded as 1 axle group. But Macarthur RMS is well aware of this.

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/registration/charges.html

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Thanks Gunner, that is great info. Now I will just have to see if I can convince my local blue slip bloke and local RMS shop. I might be better to take it up to Macarthur RMS - if my local office will give me an unregistered vehicle permit for that purpose!! Could be a fun interview.....
Cheers, Paul

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You shouldn't need to convince them of anything. It's all on the RMS website, and with anything to do with Heavy Vehicles the conditions and categories apply equally nationally.

Code RT0, axle configuration 1R2 from: http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/registration/nominated-configuration/trucks.html

2 axles less than 1 metre treated as 1 axle: http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/registration/nominated-configuration/axle-codes.html

You will need to fill out the rego application form, but some Blue Slip examiners will do this as part of the ID process. They should know it, but it could be helpful to remind them of those codes for the 6x6. Once the Blue Slip and Rego application are filled out, the RMS won't bat an eyelid or raise questions. The only hiccup is for some new registrations, where the VIN could have "gone stale" and no longer be in the system because it was never used for rego after being issued. The RMS office can make a quick phone call to reactivate the VIN if required.

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That's great, Gunner, thanks for the links. That should solve any problems I have with the local office. I have found in the past that a lot of officers (and blue slip inspectors) are not fully up with the regulations, and this will sort that out.
This vehicle has been registered in Queensland with a mod plate to 4.45 tons, but it seems I need to get a NSW engineer to repeat the process. Hopefully that will not be too big a hurdle.
Cheers, Paul

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Nick

Any luck getting a Perentie ??

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Getting VINs on the system can take hours. Yes Gregory hills service NSW know what they are doing but the sure do hate us all for going there once a month.

It took me 6 hours last month to register two haulmark trailers.
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This vehicle has been registered in Queensland with a mod plate to 4.45 tons, but it seems I need to get a NSW engineer to repeat the process. Hopefully that will not be too big a hurdle.
Cheers, Paul
If you intend to have it engineered to have a GVM under 4.5 tonnes, then it will no longer be a Heavy Vehicle and those axle configuration codes won't apply, you will have to start with a clean slate and describe it as the configuration the Engineer signs off on.

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Getting VINs on the system can take hours. Yes Gregory hills service NSW know what they are doing, but they sure do hate us all for going there once a month.
You know, I would have thought that AFM could have sent them a fax or email with each month's listings and say "Heads up, these vehicles will be coming in next week. Can you reactivate these VINs at your leisure in the next week." Either that, or a direct advice to the office where-ever that Gregory Hills calls and get them back in the "system".