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vehicle markings and unit info
« on: August 22, 2012, 07:28:13 PM »
Trying to find out the unit that my land rover come from, All the previous owner could tell me was he thinks the vehicle was a light battalion no 42
I do know its ARN 29-918 and i think the ERN 9320
its a series 3 1979 FFR
Any help would be great guys Thanks


« Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 07:30:28 PM by ffr79 »
1979 FFR series 3  (ARN) 29 918
1942 FGT no8 Gun Tractor (ARN) 132272
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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 07:35:08 PM »
42 sounds a bit like an Artillery battery to me, but I am by no means sure. That seems to go well with the fact that the vehicle is an FFR as well as the Drop shorts used quite a few of them.
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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2012, 01:04:32 PM »
3 tac plates on the rear?  has there been three on the front (3rd one usually goes on the grille).

I've not looked at the book, but normally only artillery units used 3 tac plates didn't they ?
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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 07:37:30 AM »
Thanks for the replys , i will have a look tonight when i finnish work and see if their was a third one fitted,
but it was a artillery unit i have three to choise from, thats as close as i have gotten so far,
42 was a RAA
HQ 6 TF - 1 FD REGT
HQ 5 FF GP - 7 FD BTY
HQ 2 DIV F GP - 23 FD REGT
1979 FFR series 3  (ARN) 29 918
1942 FGT no8 Gun Tractor (ARN) 132272
1965 Workshop Trailer (ARN)

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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 08:15:14 AM »
Also on the REMLR website there is a list of numbers that correspond to the colours on the Christmas tree, this will help tell you where it was allocated at some stage.

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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 07:02:23 PM »
I got the ERN its 9320 but no info on this number
And finally getting some were today with it looks like it might be RAA 1 FD REGT under COMD HQ 6 TF
But will have to wait for a phone call back to verify this, been a long and painful task to get this far and many phone calls to defence canberra an every military museum in australia but finally got put onto a bloke that seems to have the info.
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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2012, 08:16:31 AM »
THe 1 over the kangaroo is 1st division.  So that limits the number of units a little.  However that may have been at a different point in time.
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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 11:30:26 AM »
In Vietnam back in the 60s, 1 Fd Regt, was represented by 42 on a red/blue sign. 
4 Fd Regt wore 43.
12 Fd Regt wore the unit number 44 on their vehicles.
The third tac sign that was common on a lot of RAA vehicles usually denotes the battery. A Regiment consisted usually of 4 Batteries each comprising 6 guns. As far as I can glean, each vehicle wore the Tac sign of the parent Fd Regiment but the battery was represented by the position of the red quarter on the third Tac sign that was pretty well unique to Artillery. This coloured quarter floated around from top left in a clockwise direction depicting the various batteries in that regiment beginning with the HQ battery- top left and so on. This can be a bit hard to follow as often batteries floated around from Regiment to Regiment at times as requirements and changes were applied. Sometimes a letter was used instead, depending on the unit. These "third Tac signs" were really for internal use more than anything else.
During the Vietnam conflict the original 1 RAR detachment that went over in 65 was supported by the Kiwi 161 Battery (May 65) and their Tac sign was 13 displayed on the red/blue Artillery colours background. They were later supported by 105 battery RAA (Sept 65), and later in mid 66 when the Task force commitment occurred at Nui Dat 1 Fd Regt was deployed in full, comprising HQ battery, 101, 105 with the Kiwi 161 Battery filling the fourth Battery space.
Of course, your vehicle being a S3, none of this really is that significant, but may be of interest to some with earlier vehicles
In later years the numbers still represent the same units but the coloured backgrounds have disappeared and a Tac sign now is usually black numbers on an olive drab background, making it a bit harder for outsiders to recognise as well as a bit harder to see.
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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2012, 05:28:56 PM »
got the info i was looking for from the Royal Australian Artillery Association,
It was from 1 FD REGT 1st Division
only one thing still has me going is under the third TAC plate was the letter Z left hand inner side Tac.
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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 07:36:22 PM »
Hi All
I think this may help.

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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2012, 07:46:39 PM »
108-545 1963 Series 2A FFW
51-441 1991 Perentie GS (RamRod)
Series 2 Safari (Matchbox)
173-621 1/2 Ton Trailer, Aust No5

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Re: vehicle markings and unit info
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2012, 08:18:17 PM »
Thanks for that guys that help me work out the last puzzle to this vehicle.
Many thanks
1979 FFR series 3  (ARN) 29 918
1942 FGT no8 Gun Tractor (ARN) 132272
1965 Workshop Trailer (ARN)