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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2017, 09:40:31 PM »
I dont know about the NSW rules,but in Qld,on a "special interest/sivs rego",you aint supposed to carry the full original load.I believe that for new sivs regos,a gross weight has to be nominated,but nothing is writ in stone.The 10.8 ton comes from the tyre capacity,in the absence of a "compliance plate" fitted under the ADRs.Which is why I say get something in writing from the Dept.I would simply ask"how much can my truck 111 XYZ weigh in gross. and be within the rules.?"I have heard all sorts of things quoted for the Qld rules,but never read anything official.The reply has been "The club must police sivs use by members."Regards John.

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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2017, 06:35:32 PM »
Hi Diana,
I was just reading through these posts as I'm looking to rego the mk3 soon...... anyway I'm sure I've missed something here but if your looking to drive your 3/4 to Lithgow and its on normal rego with the weights as indicated on your plate, you don't even need to veer to the scales at all.... GVM is 7990kg.... see attached photo..  :)

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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2017, 06:38:35 PM »
While we are on it, does anyone have their 3 or 4 on full rego? Just wondering what insurance clowns (company) they use?

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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2017, 06:45:51 PM »
Thanks for the info, I had been informed that the checking stations in the Blue Mountains were 4.5 tonne but found out when I arrived at Bell about the 8 tonne, both of the permanent checking stations are 8 tonne although there is a occasional one near Wentworth Falls that is 4.5 tonne.  Good thinking about the Google street view.

In relation to insurance my Mk3 is under Shannons at a good price for limited km, my mate and full time truckie has his White Road Boss and F150 also under Shannons.
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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2017, 06:13:40 PM »
Last time I rang Shannons, I got the.... Is it an AB International?........it all got way too hard...... Might have to try again..

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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2017, 06:31:11 PM »
Mine is insured with Shannons.
As a International No. 1 Mk. 3 I think. I'll have to check.
I remember I had no issues.
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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2017, 06:45:36 PM »
Thanks for the info, I had been informed that the checking stations in the Blue Mountains were 4.5 tonne but found out when I arrived at Bell about the 8 tonne, both of the permanent checking stations are 8 tonne although there is a occasional one near Wentworth Falls that is 4.5 tonne. 
Most are 8 tonne, including Mt White on the Central Coast that you're likely to encounter. There are two that are 4.5 tonne that I have driven past in the 6x6 Perentie at Taree and Chinderah, but I have never been invited in as they are often closed. I am both curious and terrified as to what they would look for in an ex-mil vehicle.

Of more concern in the Lithgow area are the 4 point-to-point cameras from Mt Victoria Pass to the top of River Lett Hill. Heavy Vehicles are restricted to 40Km/h down the pass, and there is a long stretch of 60km/h roadwork. The point-to-point cameras have paid for themselves with heavy vehicle drivers! For an infrequent Heavy Vehicle driver, often in convoy with Light Vehicles on club trips, it is easy to overlook HV speed limits.

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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2017, 07:35:25 PM »
Mine is insured with Shannons.
As a International No. 1 Mk. 3 I think. I'll have to check.
I remember I had no issues.
My Shannons policy calls it a 1964 International Mk3 Truck 6 cylinder exactly as listed in bold.
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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2017, 09:00:20 PM »
I did some googling on the RMS roadside inspection stations and found the following.....
There are eight HVSS located at:

    Mt Boyce (Great Western Highway)
    Mt White (northbound and southbound on the M1 Motorway)
    Marulan (northbound and southbound on the Hume Highway)
    Twelve Mile Creek (Pacific Highway)
    Chinderah (Pacific Highway)
    Pine Creek (Pacific Highway)
    Bell (Bells Line of Road)
    Kankool (New England Highway).

All heavy vehicles with a Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) greater than eight tonnes are required to enter a HVSS (except Chinderah and Pine Creek - 4.5 tonnes). These vehicles must enter a HVSS to ensure the vehicle meets safety and roadworthiness standards and that their drivers are complying with road transport laws.

Failing to enter a HVSS when directed and/or disobeying a 'Trucks must enter' sign may result in a fine.
On another note there did seem to be some missing.... The one in the picture is about 3kms west of Faulconbridge on the GW Highway, although not operational 24/7 I do see the mobile scales in there quite regularly.....

Here is a link for more info for those interested in the types and locations
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/safety-compliance/inspections-checks/heavy-vehicle-safety-stations.html

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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2017, 10:17:48 PM »
<snip> ... On another note there did seem to be some missing.... The one in the picture is about 3kms west of Faulconbridge on the GW Highway, although not operational 24/7 I do see the mobile scales in there quite regularly.....

Here is a link for more info for those interested in the types and locations
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/safety-compliance/inspections-checks/heavy-vehicle-safety-stations.html

That's the one I thought was closer to Wentworth Falls.

Interesting factoid, they can't do the brake tests on F1, F2 and F5 Inters using the mobile shaker tables because there's no power divider between the rear axles.
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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2017, 10:20:12 PM »
I did some googling on the RMS roadside inspection stations and found the following.....
There are eight HVSS located at:

    Mt Boyce (Great Western Highway)
    Mt White (northbound and southbound on the M1 Motorway)
    Marulan (northbound and southbound on the Hume Highway)
    Twelve Mile Creek (Pacific Highway)
    Chinderah (Pacific Highway)
    Pine Creek (Pacific Highway)
    Bell (Bells Line of Road)
    Kankool (New England Highway).

All heavy vehicles with a Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) greater than eight tonnes are required to enter a HVSS (except Chinderah and Pine Creek - 4.5 tonnes). These vehicles must enter a HVSS to ensure the vehicle meets safety and roadworthiness standards and that their drivers are complying with road transport laws.

Failing to enter a HVSS when directed and/or disobeying a 'Trucks must enter' sign may result in a fine.
On another note there did seem to be some missing.... The one in the picture is about 3kms west of Faulconbridge on the GW Highway, although not operational 24/7 I do see the mobile scales in there quite regularly.....

Here is a link for more info for those interested in the types and locations
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/safety-compliance/inspections-checks/heavy-vehicle-safety-stations.html

Exactly the link I posted as "Most are 8 tonne" above.

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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2017, 10:29:08 PM »
So you did.... another bad.... sorry! Maybe we need to put the links on bright orange or something and flashing lights around them so blind pelicans like me can notice them! ;D

The inspection station at Faulconbridge also has lower speeds for trucks and "trucks use left lane" signage.... I completely forgot last time i Took the big isuzu west.... cruising at road speed (in the right lane too) oops..... :o

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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2017, 08:56:54 PM »
Whilst I'm on fire, I'm keen to join a truck club or similar but was hoping to find one with a few members who have the aaco's... Any suggestions?
Thanks, Tim

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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2017, 11:56:06 PM »
Whilst I'm on fire, I'm keen to join a truck club or similar but was hoping to find one with a few members who have the aaco's... Any suggestions?
Thanks, Tim
Why do you want to join a club?
Does it have to be a truck club?
Maybe you should consider a military vehicle club.
It all depends on the reasons. I am in four clubs, soon to be five. None a "Truck" club.
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Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2017, 08:58:57 AM »
Whilst I'm on fire, I'm keen to join a truck club or similar but was hoping to find one with a few members who have the aaco's... Any suggestions?
Thanks, Tim
For a standard Army Inter why not consider the AMVCS, they are a NSW military vehicle club but they wont accept vehicles with modified/replaced engines (or weapons carried on vehicles). I know at least one AMVCS member who has an F1 but whether it goes out much I'm not sure. PM Jan Thompson about them.

Steve Deitman (2Bravo on REMLR) has a wish to have an Army truck convoy in the annual Hauling the Hume event. This would allow a bunch of Sydney owners irrespective of club to combine for the event, I guess we could even carry a non runner on the back of his S-Line and would of course require an MP Land Rover to head the convoy!  8)
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