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Offline Diana Alan

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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2014, 04:46:24 PM »
Hi Phoenix

While I'm not familiar with the Disco indicator stalk, I am imagining it is relatively complex. 3 position and a return mechanism for the indicators, 3 positions for high low beam and instantaneous to flash the high beam and probably also horn button so a 7 function switch in 3 planes.

The interior lamp switch is a simple two position, single pole rocker switch.  As far as I am aware it was used on all 90's 110, 120, plus Defender 90, 110 and 130 for at least a decade or fifteen years.  There is little technology in it, no circuit boards, not even an indicator lamp, it is a simple switch that can't justify the price. 

If my Land Rover specialist was making a huge margin on the parts, why are none of the other 7 perentie parts not more expensive than $17.00.

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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2014, 05:22:32 PM »
In the same vein, the 110's rear diff light is pricey:

rear diff light: Housing BYG9971 $263.50, Light Insert 'Bullet LED' BYG9976 $88

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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2014, 06:04:35 PM »
I might be wrong here but RRC4865 is only a Genuine Land Rover Part.



And how can land rover justify that price? They can end of.  No one is forcing you or me or anyone to buy from them.  But shop around and you can get things cheaper.
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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2014, 06:07:20 PM »
Usually I have asked for quotes or they have rung me when they were expensive bits, this time we both failed on the procedure!  :'(
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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2014, 06:26:36 PM »
The other thing to remember though is that it is a part that is very old as well, how many dealers of any type have switches and parts for vehicles manufactured in the late 80's / early 90's ??  Probably not too many. 


Jump in a 2014 defender and tell me the door handles, locks, inserts, switches, visors, and many more interior plastics arent from the exact same moulds/parts bins as a 1990 range rover...

So that plastic switch may still be inside a modern machine..
I'm not completely useless.. I'm missing some of the pieces
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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2014, 06:38:34 PM »
What's strange is parts numbers get changed superseded and then the dealers say no longer available, when it is.
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Re: Gobsmacked with Land Rover Australia parts prices
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2014, 09:27:07 PM »
Am gobsmaked today.

Ordered in the interior light switch for 48-852 because the one fitted is almost impossible to turn off.  Didn't check the prices because I have found over the years that getting second hand switches are usually false economy.

Checked the RPS on the REMLR website  Land Rover Part No RRC4865, two days later my Land Rover specialist calls to tell me the parts are in (there were a few other perentie items as well).  All the parts had to be ordered in from LRA.

RRC4865 SWITCH Suggested list: $231.44 My price (trade) $212.30 

- Unbelievable its a plastic switch, there is no paladium inserts, no diamond chips, no titanium housing, just plastic, a bit of brass and probably a spring.  Would be popped out of a repetition moulding machine by the thousands at a few cents each.

How can Land Rover justify that price!


This might turn you on  8) its $33.00

But be quick man!




http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover-Defender-Interior-Light-Switch-PRC7371-/161319032198?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item258f5d1586&vxp=mtr

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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2015, 11:46:32 AM »
This thread makes me smile.
I once had a Land Rover Parts business. Most items had from 20% to 60% mark-up over the wholesale price, some 100%. I never sold them at RRP but about 15 to 20%. When some garage or someone claiming to be from "Trade" wanted a discount I simply put the RRP on the receipt and then was able to give huge discounts by selling to them at my normal price. Same price for everyone.
As for copying Land Rover Canopies. That makes me laugh!
You are all at a disadvantage because you want the exact article that was issued so that your vehicle looks authentic.
That means that you want a canopy that shrinks, doesn't have the fixings in the right places and has webbing that wont slide through the slider buckles, so you can't tighten straps effectively. There are other little design faults also. It amazes me that the army didn't want these issues fixed. From the way I have seen the Perentie canopies fitted I guess no-one knew exactly how they should be anyway. The design is 50 years old from the days when they didn't have good zips!
Don't be fooled into buying "Genuine." If it looks basically the same, fits and works, it is the right part for the job. The fact that you have paid a fortune for it and supported L-R A. wont make it go any better.
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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2015, 12:06:14 PM »
Restless are you saying land rover canopies don't fit ;D

I think JLR had more commercial quantities and current items in mind when they sent the original letter :)
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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2015, 02:47:19 PM »
This thread makes me smile.

Don't be fooled into buying "Genuine." If it looks basically the same, fits and works, it is the right part for the job. The fact that you have paid a fortune for it and supported L-R A. wont make it go any better.
Restless.

This thread is not about telling people not to purchase genuine parts, its about Land Rover having a very big Issue with people copying there products. 
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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2015, 05:42:25 PM »
This thread makes me smile.
...<snip>
So the $1,991.17 quote for AYG464 should make you burst into a terminal fit of laughter!  ;D

AYG 464 is the bracket that bolts to the Isuzu 4BD1 block, not the swing arm and not the pulley, just a bit of cast iron probably weighing about 10 grams
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Re: Jaguar Land Rover Australia Statement with regard to reproduction items
« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2015, 07:11:00 PM »
The prices have nothing to do with this Thread.

And I agree some of the Perentie parts are very expensive, but no one is forcing you to buy them, and little old Jo in is shed can happily copy a part and do what he wants with it as long as he's not selling to the public.

I would hope that LRA lower there prices once the last Perentie leaves service, maybe they will send whats left to scrap who knows....

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