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112 502 Restoration Log Book
« on: May 26, 2014, 09:30:29 AM »
Hi everyone official started the restoration 112 502 RA SURVEY
112 502 chassis
and the civy chassis all the parts have been sitting on for too long, time to reunite all parts back to the original chassis

and the end result should look like this
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 09:40:44 AM »
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112 502 Log book entry Day 1  25/05/2014
Started to convert civy wiring loom to military spec, blackout light working still to finish wiring in brake and indicator lights. Problem oil and charging warning lights don't go off even when ignition is turned off.

black out light
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 08:40:02 PM »
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112 502 Log book entry Day 2  30/05/2014
Started to paint chassis,first chassis black than will go over it is OD paint. Worked out a plan how to get out the steering rely too very simple thanks to a mate now to make it.



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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 01:32:54 PM »

and the end result should look like this


A couple of things are niggling me about this vehicle. Firstly the pictured vehicle (above) looks like a S2 that has had its guards cut (and not necessarily by a base workshop) and shows what seems to be an exhaust system from a 2 Litre engine. This means to me that that particular vehicle may not be army but more than likely a Commonwealth registered survey vehicle. "C" Plates.
Does your vehicle have any other structural differences to a standard GS done pre delivery that you can see to warrant its separate census number? External Jerry can holders, internal water tanks or the likes of such, that sort of thing?
The reason I ask this question is that generally a short base GS was simply a 6005 with a suffix added on to denote certain amendments. (eg. a field ambulance was 6005A, a gunbuggy was a 6005B - there were really no structural differences underneath, whereas the early shortbase workshop vehicles had power take offs, different voltages, welders, gas  etc and were classed as 6011-19 etc. to denote structural differences)
I am simply interested and wondering what other mods were carried out on your base vehicle to warrant this different nomenclature, as in my time I had no contact with Survey, they were an unknown quantity.
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 08:18:21 PM »
Hello zulu delta 534 now answer those questions the photo of one of the prototype was mayby taken after 1963 it's the first of 2 and is a s2 Swb and my swb prototype is a s2a. So a 2 and 2a was needed to try as a swb survey the s2 never went into service it stayed on the board but mine did serve with the army . Now it has position for the underbody protection missing, missing the fly screen, and has not got a hand winch but a capstan winch, has holes where the side protection bars sit but missing and map pockets on both doors, has holes where the reel was, rear light are inserted not sticking out also jerry can holders. PS also on the bullbar has what left of the antenna sits.
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2014, 09:27:30 PM »
Thanks for the informative answer Anthony. Are there any signs of a radio table or radio fittings anywhere in the tub . That Antenna mount looks like a civilian (Govt.) type  rather than the standard sets used by the Army of the day, I would be interested to know more about that, if there are any radio experts on.
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2014, 09:42:30 PM »
Will have a look to see if there any holes but it's genuine put there when shortie was in service as you can see by the photo. I also  thought it was a bit of strange radio setup too, but maybe to run a civilan radio beside the military radio for work in the outback of Australia in case they can't get hold of the base so they use civilian radio too as a alternative.
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2014, 12:38:22 AM »
It may have been an early Codan or similar so they could call up the RFDS...

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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2014, 06:47:25 PM »
hi everyone so something like this AGAS 5 because there are holes that match a mic holder were it would have been bolted in
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2014, 07:23:07 PM »
Yep, something like that. Do you know the year model of that Codan?

I would compare your vehicle's period of service and then research old Codan radios of the same period.

Keep up the great work !

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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2014, 08:44:03 PM »
Hi AGAS 5 the Codan 7727 SSB radio was designed in the late 70's.
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2014, 10:26:31 PM »
Hi AGAS 5 the Codan 7727 SSB radio was designed in the late 70's.
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Most Codan radio model codes up to the NGT used the first two digits to represent the year of first introduction.  Hence the 7727 was introduced in 1977, the 8525 in 1985 and the 9323 in 1993.

Anthony, do you know the frequencies installed into the set? I have a multi-tap that would look appropriate with the set if you install it,  Unfortunately I don't have a spare spring or base.
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2014, 07:42:11 AM »
Hi Diana Alan I don't know the setting but this photo of it back might help you.I might have a antenna with the cb radio gear
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2014, 10:00:22 AM »
Hi Anthony

Any antenna you have in your CB radio gear is unlikely to be suitable for the frequencies in the set.  Unless you have an antenna matcher.  The reason is that the CB frequencies are at 27MHz while your set has frequencies  2 through 8 MHz.  The HF radio would have had a multi-tap antenna with a wander lead like the one in the image below.

While I don't recognise all the frequencies, some of them are current RFDS Outpost Service and others are now redundant frequencies for the bases in the NT, Qld and NSW which no longer offer the HF service.

Underlined RFDS HF base stations still operating.
Channel 1: Meekatharra/Pt Augusta/Darwin
Channel 2: Pt Headland/Meekatharra/Derby
Channel 3: Pt Headland/Meekatharra/Carnarvon/Kalgoolie
Channel 4: Alice Springs
Channel 5: Darwin
Channel 6: Meekatharra
Channel 7: Alice Springs
Channel 8: Unk
Channel 9: Unk
Channel 10: Darwin

None of the channels are VKS737 and 7550 and 8144 may be the channels operated by the previous owner.
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Re: 112 502 Restoration Log Book
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2014, 10:15:09 AM »
Hi Anthony

I was going to mention that in the absence of an earlier HF set like one of Alf Tregear's sets, most people wouldn't know nor care about the presence of the Codan set you already have.   It adds to the completeness of the vehicle.

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