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Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« on: May 20, 2014, 12:21:33 PM »
A couple of people have asked me about aftermarket wheels on Perentie vehicles, whether it be as replacements or as upgrades for a runabout and I came by some information regarding the rims in relation to the development of the 110 and 6x6 fleet.

Naturally, a plethora of rimes from Series vehicles, through to normal 110, discovery and range rovers will fit the Perentie/bushranger fleet of 110's.  Even some UK and wolf rims ara available if you like the looks of them, however these are all certainly a case of user beware and I will explain why.

The wheels manufactured by ROH in Australia for the Perentie/Bushranger fleet are actually somewhat heavier than their series or 110 counterparts from the UK, and are made of a higher quality material.  During the development of the Perentie it was found that standard UK rims when used on the Perentie resulted in significant cracking of the rim.  I can only imaging the horrifying outcome should a wheel on any vehicle completely failed at speed.   So these rims were never specified for use on the 110 Perentie, and ROH in Australia got the nod to make the stronger rims as a result.  Even the Wolf Rims I am told have not been certified for fitment to the Perentie fleet.

So while all of these rims will fit on your vehicle, do so with at least some knowledge of the risks involved.  Also worth considering is that most insurance companies would be likely to nullify your policy in the event of an accident if the vehicle is fitted with rims that were not approved for use on that vehicle.

That is my public service announcement for the day, and something that will in time find it's way on the the relevant page on the REMLR main website.

Richard

Update: part numbers below are not approved for use on Perentie and Bushranger vehicles.
  • ANR1534
  • ANR1534 6.5J: Tubeless
  • ANR5593
  • ANR4583 Wolf Rim
« Last Edit: May 22, 2014, 10:36:27 AM by Phoenix »
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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2014, 01:23:29 PM »
Thanks richard.
The hd rims should be up to the task.
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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2014, 02:54:00 PM »
Very Interesting.

Were the WOLF rims ever tested here? Regardless if they were or not they fall well within the weight limits for a 4x4 Perentie.

Interesting that the ROH made standard Perentie rims are made to a higher spec than the UK Series and 110 ones.  Does this information relate to civilian and or  cover the UK military standard Land Rover Steel Rim?

What people should check for is the manufactures load rating when buying rims, be these alloy or steel. I would never buy anything less than this, and maybe it would be helpful from a safety point of view to have something on the main site stating what the technical specs are on the ROH rim, and what other rims are suitable alternatives.

I dont think its fair to say just because a rim has not been tested on a Perentie it is unsafe.

For the record the Genuine Wolf Rim, also know as a Land Rover HD Rim is  rated to 2200KG at each corner, so with 4 wheels fitted, your Land Rover could weight around 8.8 Tonnes (8800KG or 19400 lb).

Then theres The 130 Wheel Rim. Part Number ANR1534 6.5J: Tubeless. This is a HD rim used on the Snatch/Rapier/130/127 MOD Land Rovers






« Last Edit: May 20, 2014, 02:59:15 PM by juddy »
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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2014, 03:54:33 PM »
Re: Wolf rims - At least one (non-Perentie) vehicle had them:


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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2014, 04:06:30 PM »
Thats the wolf that came here.

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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2014, 07:53:53 PM »
Did this Wolf arrive in a C130?
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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2014, 08:18:10 PM »
Then theres The 130 Wheel Rim. Part Number ANR1534 6.5J: Tubeless. This is a HD rim used on the Snatch/Rapier/130/127 MOD Land Rovers.
ANR1534 is a TUBED rim, it does not have the safety bead to run tubeless.

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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2014, 08:31:44 PM »
Disagree

I mean that in a nice way. by the way
« Last Edit: May 20, 2014, 09:01:50 PM by juddy »
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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2014, 08:38:21 PM »
You could also go for ANR1534PM

This is also a FC 2b rim
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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 10:52:51 AM »
From memory, early 130s came with ANR1534, which is a tubed rim that looks like a standard 110 wheel with wider rim. Later 130s came with the Wolf-like ANR5593, which is also a tubed rim. I've lost track now but perhaps the newer 130s come with the tubeless ANR4583s - i.e. Wolfs? From what I understand, "PM" in the part number just means that it's finished in primer when supplied, as opposed to white paint.

People do run ANR1534s with tubeless tyres, but as 303 has said - no bead. I wouldn't risk it.

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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 01:00:34 PM »
My 130 came with tubeless HD Rims.  LRA have now changed it again to Tubed Rims. both are still a option.

The wolfs run the HD rims with runflats too
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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2014, 07:03:46 PM »
To add further info to the original post.....
L/R did not accept/permit the ROH manufactured Rover rims fitted to 750 & 1250kg trailers to be fitted to ADF 110's. Sposedly not manufactured to the same specs.....
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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 07:56:04 PM »
Very Interesting.

For the record the Genuine Wolf Rim, also know as a Land Rover HD Rim is  rated to 2200KG at each corner, so with 4 wheels fitted, your Land Rover could weight around 8.8 Tonnes (8800KG or 19400 lb).

Then theres The 130 Wheel Rim. Part Number ANR1534 6.5J: Tubeless. This is a HD rim used on the Snatch/Rapier/130/127 MOD Land Rovers
ANR1534/ ANR1534PM is stamped 6.5L, not J. It does not have the safety bead and is for use with tubes.
ANR5593, although stamped 6.5J also does not have a safety bead, but it is clearly stamped "Tubed"







The only HD rim with safety beads to run tubeless is the real "Wolf" rim, ANR4583:



If you have any pictures that show otherwise Juddy, also in the nicest way, please share them.

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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2014, 08:00:00 PM »
And Phoenix, I hope this is not a critical issue, as I have bought 9 ANR1534 rims and BFG 255/85 (with tubes) for the 6x6!


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Re: Perentie 110 and 6x6 wheel warning
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2014, 08:57:55 PM »
To add further info to the original post.....
L/R did not accept/permit the ROH manufactured Rover rims fitted to 750 & 1250kg trailers to be fitted to ADF 110's. Sposedly not manufactured to the same specs.....

What did they fit then?
1991 110 Truck Surveillance (RFSV), Winch MC2 *51-656*
2004 Truck, Carryall, Lightweight, Modified Military Special, With Winch, MC2/3 205-301, Haulmark PT1-1.2 *205090* No5 Trailer

Images 2008-2017 J Burton