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Diana's Buggy, 112-723/726 - Emmett
« on: November 16, 2013, 11:32:16 PM »
Dianna,if you know when it left service ie date of disposal that will give a good indication of paint scheme.
Hi John

I don't actually know when it left service but there is evidence of the Auscam tan in the passengers area, there is also both the cam green and black in other areas.  Unfortunately the whole vehicle was painted black on the outside post service, so it is almost impossible to determine which is the black from the Auscam scheme and which the post service black.

The tan evidence is sufficient to know it must have remained in service to the 1990s and was in temperate zone Auscam scheme.  My best guide of an Auscam scheme will be Scott's 112-245 which still has its last in-service paint intact.

Diana
« Last Edit: December 24, 2013, 07:19:39 AM by Diana Alan »
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2013, 12:05:41 AM »
Ok,deffinately post 89ish.8/9 RAR still had gunbunnies when I was there as an apprentice(raeme) in 86. everything was OD.Somewhere on the gun buggy thread is 4xbugs in multi cam.They are 8/9 RAR.
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Diana's Buggy
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 09:16:24 PM »
Dianna,if you know when it left service ie date of disposal that will give a good indication of paint scheme.
Hi John

I don't actually know when it left service but there is evidence of the Auscam tan in the passengers area, there is also both the cam green and black in other areas.  Unfortunately the whole vehicle was painted black on the outside post service, so it is almost impossible to determine which is the black from the Auscam scheme and which the post service black.

The tan evidence is sufficient to know it must have remained in service to the 1990s and was in temperate zone Auscam scheme.  My best guide of an Auscam scheme will be Scott's 112-245 which still has its last in-service paint intact.

Diana
Ok,deffinately post 89ish.8/9 RAR still had gunbunnies when I was there as an apprentice(raeme) in 86. everything was OD.Somewhere on the gun buggy thread is 4xbugs in multi cam.They are 8/9 RAR.
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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 09:17:39 PM »
Dianna,if you know when it left service ie date of disposal that will give a good indication of paint scheme.
That makes sense John.

As with the LRPVs, the numerous paint schemes and unit markings should be extant under the current indigenous inspired paint scheme. Sand back a small section of bodywork and Diana should know more :).
Hi Tommy and John

Part of this is answered in a new thread I started in the "Member sheds" area.

As to Tommy's comment, I have rubbed back a number of areas only to reveal OD and the fact that someone decided to remove paint with an angle grinder, so the body is completely scored over almost every aluminium panel. (you can see the scoring in the following image.)



BTW: In the above image, you can see some of the Auscam tan on the passengers floor.
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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2013, 09:26:19 PM »
Dear me :o, that looks nasty :(.

So whats the plan, spray putty the whole vehicle?
Hi Tommy

I've moved this part to a thread on the buggy because it is hyacking the markings thread.

Sorry I haven't got any photos but I will take some ASAP.  When I started rubbing back the damage may be repairable with a couple of coats of high build primer rubbing back between coats.  The dilemma is that the panel you can see is relatively badly dented in.  I have already bought a NOS LH mudguard which I was going to cut down using the original front panel. Would that be destroying the heritage of a genuine buggy guard?

Gary has suggested that I need to do a full strip down and build up, and while that is daunting.  I believe he is correct in the task at least it is a Vietnam Vet chassis so probably deserves some TLC.

Diana
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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2013, 05:14:09 PM »
Was just viewing the SRV walkaroung and came across this image.



Note the hooks on the body?  While they don't have the rivet holes at the correct spacing I wonder if the same thing applies to the holes on my buggy?  (Above and below)





Just need to find the fittings to match the holes.

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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2013, 05:23:59 PM »
Those hooks are similar or identical to the hooks on the rear corner flaps on a tarp.

Canvas makers....

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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 05:35:55 PM »
Those hooks are similar or identical to the hooks on the rear corner flaps on a tarp.

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Diana,

I could send you a couple of different sizes (I'll grab a couple from work) and you could line up the holes, if you get a match it's a pretty good chance that is what was there.

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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2013, 05:58:36 PM »
It may be easier if I measure the holes and let you know. 

At one point I thought they may be related to the brass ends on webbing or small footman loops, but so far all have the holes too far apart.

Was even considering saddlers staples:

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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 12:36:35 AM »
Diana, have you asked the previous owner if they know anything about the double holes?

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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2013, 11:34:20 AM »
The preious two owners know nothing about the holes.
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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2013, 01:48:37 PM »
I've seen similar loops on a GB before i'm sure.  Not sure if it was to hold on tarps, cam nets, hessian or something else, I need to try and find the pics, or was it at corowa... 
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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 03:42:37 PM »
Hi there all

Richard I was thinking the same almost like something which can drape over the bull bar - maybe for deep water crossings?

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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2013, 08:30:26 PM »
The way the pairs of holes are arranged, it looks like they are to strap the cam netting roll when the vehicle is on the move.

Sort of like these two:

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Re: Diana's Buggy
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2013, 01:04:43 AM »
The SRV (and 6x6) have those hooks on the front guard to unfurl a canvas cover for the headlamps and sidelamps, presumably to prevent reflections from the lenses or inadvertently lighting them up while "lying in wait".

I have no doubt that the Gunbuggy would also have a similar requirement, plus the additional need for a screen of some sort to protect from muzzle blast. However, the orientation of the rivet/screw holes do not align the hooks with something that is drawn across the front grille or headlight area. I think your suggestion of stowage of cam nets is probably the right answer.