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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2013, 05:35:06 PM »
Would it be too much chance for them to have been in the same unit?

Its at least a start.  :)

Your vehicle number 5 and mine number 6!

I know a bloke who knows the bloke standing next my Gunbuggy in this photo, he is trying to make contact and find out more/more photos....

hope someone can help

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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2013, 05:40:39 PM »
As time moved on (like sand through an hourglass!) so did Infantry markings and terminology. The S still represents Support Company but later on what was previously known as an Anti Tank (or Armour) Platoon became known as a Weapons Platoon instead. Therefore, vehicles that were, in the earlier days of the Vietnam conflict numbered SA 3,4,5and 6 were to become SW 3,4,5,and 6.
This was not a rare thing to happen as during the reorganisation of the army in the mid 70s some Companies became Squadrons and Platoons became troops etc.etc., similarly in earlier days wirelesses became radios.
Same animal, different name.
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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2013, 06:29:39 PM »
So I guess if I re-paint in camo I can put similar markings to Scott's otherwise, if its drab I don't have any info.

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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2013, 10:34:59 PM »
Dianna,if you know when it left service ie date of disposal that will give a good indication of paint scheme.
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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2013, 10:44:58 PM »
Dianna,if you know when it left service ie date of disposal that will give a good indication of paint scheme.

That makes sense John.

As with the LRPVs, the numerous paint schemes and unit markings should be extant under the current indigenous inspired paint scheme. Sand back a small section of bodywork and Diana should know more :).

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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2013, 11:50:52 PM »
If vehicle disposal was around the late 80's early 90's it would have depended upon the prioritisation of unit requirement.If you were fortunate enough to be in a unit that was to recieve one of those new perenties(,that are now for sale) repainting didnt occur.For many of  who worked out of specialist vehicles such as Wksps,a change in the paint scheme meant little,other than it might take longer to keep up with the young ones.
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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2013, 12:11:46 PM »
This is on the loading board of my Horndraulic 3T trailer.


Any ideas?
I just realised this was another of my images with links broken when I sorted my Photobucket.

Any idea about what both the "RE" and also the date mean?  I'm thinking its a disposal rather than a unit serial. 

There is similar (but different colours) on my 110V/220V VW powered gen set.
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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2013, 12:21:48 PM »
Dianna,if you know when it left service ie date of disposal that will give a good indication of paint scheme.
That makes sense John.

As with the LRPVs, the numerous paint schemes and unit markings should be extant under the current indigenous inspired paint scheme. Sand back a small section of bodywork and Diana should know more :).
Hi Tommy and John

Part of this is answered in a new thread I started in the "Member sheds" area.

As to Tommy's comment, I have rubbed back a number of areas only to reveal OD and the fact that someone decided to remove paint with an angle grinder, so the body is completely scored over almost every aluminium panel. (you can see the scoring in the following image.)



BTW: In the above image, you can see some of the Auscam tan on the passengers floor.
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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2013, 08:47:15 PM »
Dear me :o, that looks nasty :(.

So whats the plan, spray putty the whole vehicle?

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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2014, 01:16:35 PM »
Hello All,
I have a Series 3 FFR according to the nonclemature plate’s chassis number and the passenger side spring hanger marking is ARN 29-792. The vehicle now known as “Batty" and it has a Christmas Tree on it. My first Christmas Tree!

Above the Christmas Tree is the number 5333 printed in black
Below the Christmas tree appears a maroon Kangaroo and below that is the word Army.

Can anyone inform me what these marking mean and what unit the vehicle

Batty also has three TAC plates on the front and three on the rear of the vehicle.

I will post more details about ARN 29-792 over in the Series 3 section  :)

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« Last Edit: May 06, 2014, 01:23:43 PM by Lionelgee »

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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2014, 01:41:53 PM »
5333 we do not have on file i'm afraid, but the triple tac plate holders are almost certainly an indication that it belonged to an artillery unit.
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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2014, 01:50:54 PM »
Lionel

29792 was no longer in military service by October 1993, so the markings are before that date.

It was, indeed, an FFR while in service.

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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2014, 05:33:51 PM »
G'day Mike,

Speak of the Devil - I just found your earlier message about Christmas Trees where you explain the colour code.


 Reply #2 on: January 26, 2014, 05:37:13 AM »

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9320 is the Unit Serial Number (USN). All units have them, and under the quadripartite STANAG arrangements, Units were required to display the USN and the colour-coded Christmas tree, but I heard recently that the requirement has now been dropped. The colours represent the numbers, and are exactly the same colour-number system used in the earlier, 3 stripe 'bar code' dating from before WW2:
1  Red
2 Blue
3 Yellow
4 Light Green
5 Grey
6 Buff
7 Red Oxide (Maroon/deep orange)
8 Service colour, ie Olive Drab/deep Brunswick Green
9 White
0 Brown

http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=1819.msg17436#msg17436

Batty has three yellow stripes so number above the Christmas tree of could be 333. Or is this being rather simplistic on my behalf?

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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2014, 05:49:59 PM »
Pheonix.  while we're on the subject.  Have found that the USN for 51st Batt. FNQ is 6605
Confirmed by a reliable source.  Can you add that to the Vehicle Markings segment on the website.
First digit ( 6 ) coincides with the other RAINF numbers already shown.
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Re: Vehicle markings
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2014, 06:02:30 PM »
G'day Mike,

Speak of the Devil - I just found your earlier message about Christmas Trees where you explain the colour code.


 Reply #2 on: January 26, 2014, 05:37:13 AM »

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9320 is the Unit Serial Number (USN). All units have them, and under the quadripartite STANAG arrangements, Units were required to display the USN and the colour-coded Christmas tree, but I heard recently that the requirement has now been dropped. The colours represent the numbers, and are exactly the same colour-number system used in the earlier, 3 stripe 'bar code' dating from before WW2:
1  Red
2 Blue
3 Yellow
4 Light Green
5 Grey
6 Buff
7 Red Oxide (Maroon/deep orange)
8 Service colour, ie Olive Drab/deep Brunswick Green
9 White
0 Brown

http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=1819.msg17436#msg17436

Batty has three yellow stripes so number above the Christmas tree of could be 333. Or is this being rather simplistic on my behalf?

Kind Regards
Lionel


So 5333 above christmas tree means

Grey
Yellow
Yellow
Yellow

You just cant see the top of the pyramid but it should be grey

Cant help what it is though
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Scott
« Last Edit: May 06, 2014, 06:04:43 PM by FFRMAN »
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