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Title: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 07, 2017, 09:32:31 PM
Hi guys,havnet been on here in a while,and def not with an inter.
 I purchased a Humber fv1601 last year along with a 73  Acco 6x6 but am only just getting around to getting it mobile enough to shift around a bit easier in preparation to actually getting it home from the wheatbelt area to  my home near Toodyay.
Chassis no is 3837 and is an F1,ARN should have been 25-209,any markings for TAC plates,unit nos,in service theater etc would be good if anyone can help.
Have just removed both carbies ,clutch m/cyl and slave cyl plus both brake master cyls for clean and re-kit.
Does anyone know of parts supplier Like Covs, Repco or similar just for the banjo type needle and seat for carbs as used on these vehicles,i cant say ive seen them on anything else.
Cheers    John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Mick_Marsh on June 07, 2017, 09:39:13 PM
Nice Inter.

What's the trailer in the background of photo 2?

(Yes. I know I have a trailer fettish.)
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 07, 2017, 10:22:58 PM
Mick,guy i bought truck from has a few Austin Champs and trailers, one pommy one and one aussie one,he is not selling these tho he wants to keep them,i dont know all that much about them except they have the humber style rim.
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: STDDIVER on June 13, 2017, 04:29:38 PM
Hi John  - you have one very nice inter there,  congratulations as it looks complete.  I am doing a similar job with mine. Great to  catch up with Mick the other day too.
Good luck with the project


STDDIVER

Ps  I might hve some carbie bits too - see what I can find
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 14, 2017, 06:23:13 PM
Stddiver,thanks,i have been searching high and low for needle and seats for these twin carbies and have found a reference to a kit SB569 that did these but now long obsolete,i have just for now anyway bought 2 new holden ones and will just use the needle as being rubber tipped i might be able to get away with it for now,does anyone know why they
 went down that mounted side by side route instead of inline like Holden setup etc?
Classic carbys in QLD knows of them but is unable to find any,so unless i can find some NOS kits i think i will have to modify/make something  when it gets home.
Will check out your posts ,are there pics of yours?
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Acco6x6 on June 14, 2017, 06:49:46 PM
     G,day John.   I have in the past week been trying to get the proper kits but no luck.  Was speaking to a chap in Melbourne who used to recondition them for the army.  Could not remember the banjo fitting as it was too long ago but thought the Holden xu-1 pipe may adapt to the new needle and seat kits.  My kits are from fuel miser via Repco
      Cheers
          Stewart
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 14, 2017, 07:31:49 PM
Gday Stewart,the classic carby guy,Gavin,has some N&S with a tail for hose to go on and u may be able to just put enough of a bend on it to clear,so will look at this option as well their about 20 dollars each,he did try various bends and unions etc but they all stuck out way too far,with the truck still 200 odd ks away i cant get an exact distance from 1 carb to the next till i go back up and try to refit everything,i will check out the xu-1 angle as well, thanks.
I have cleaned and sorted all hyd bits and pieces some new cyls for clutch and new cups and seals for brake m/cyls so should have that sorted when we go back up and get it running.one m/cyl has been stainless resleeved before and the other had what looked like a brass sleeve,both good enough for re-use.
We didnt get it to run for long enuff before so we may still have other probs such as water pump,leakey radiator ,hoses etc to contend with yet,may mean another trip back home before we attempt any distance drives,at worst we will load on our ex army Ford Cargo to get it home.
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 15, 2017, 06:58:29 PM
Does anyone know for sure about the colours and wording on the post 1972 ARN plates,i think they are green numbers  and thin green surround on white background with army something something on the bottom(poss "army the way up"?} ,i am just going to make some quick ones up(vinyl lettering on reflective background) on ali plate until one day when i can afford to get someone to possibly do "proper ones" .
The Humber i have will also cop a set ,i am pretty sure they are just white numbering on a gloss black background with AMF at top 105-691,with a thin white surround,i am unsure of number sizes (small and Large) so will just base it loosely around the car size stuff.
My son is a signwriter but not actually doing his trade at the moment so i have yet to con him in to helping ,but hopefully they should look good enough from 10 feet away.
The Humber is all but finished panel and paint wise so wanted them 1st but may as well do inter ones at same time.
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Diana Alan on June 15, 2017, 07:17:58 PM
When the plates changed from black/white to white/green, the colour closely matched the camouflage green and the word ARMY was above the serials.  I believe the background was a non-reflective solid colour.

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Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 15, 2017, 07:50:23 PM
Diana,thanks for that, does it make a photo i have of a late f1 wrong then?(its in a WA museum) and is 94-2078 with army----- --?( camera flash obscures the last bit ) at the bottom,or did some get an even later ARN at some stage?
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Mick on June 15, 2017, 08:06:30 PM
JP,

I reckon a F1 would have the back and white AMF plate.

There was a green / white .

ARMY
Serving the nation

Plate around at some point ?

I think it was after the plate Diana mentioned.

Cheers ,

Mick

Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Diana Alan on June 15, 2017, 09:36:02 PM
Diana,thanks for that, does it make a photo i have of a late f1 wrong then?(its in a WA museum) and is 94-2078 with army----- --?( camera flash obscures the last bit ) at the bottom,or did some get an even later ARN at some stage?
Hi John

Lots of vehicles that stayed in service through the 1980s and into the 1990s were re-issued plates in the green/white configuration but kept their original ARN.  We had a F5 wrecker at the Engineers Museum (ex-RAEME Training Centre) that had its ARN in the green/white and there are images of Numpty's gun buggy 112-372 with green white plates.

However, you also must remember that most of the AHU museums have a box full of old plates (we did at least) that could be stuck onto vehicles when they had lost their original plates, so you need to be a little careful accepting the number on a museum vehicle.
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 15, 2017, 09:43:04 PM
Hi Mick,i think Diana has got it right being a 73 build inter it would be equivalent to
 roughly around the same era the series 111s, 1972 and on, copped the 32-009 plate with just army at top,and not with the AMF bit any more, AGAS 5 2015 pic of 25-187 has army and looks to be green on white.
Seeing as they changed in 72 i would say that is correct,however they must have changed again sometime later with the    army - -  -   at the bottom
cheers   John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 15, 2017, 10:18:06 PM
Hi Diana,i see another inter truck photo in the same museum has 179-124 but in the green with army at top,it is a workshop vehicle i think from memory,so may well be one of those re-issued plates vehicle you talk about,
never ceases to amaze me that when you think have just got a handle on something the Australian military processes from the past prove otherwise.
While on that subject is there anyone out there that can throw any light on a couple of trucks my son has,1. being a 1942 Diamond T 980 tank transporter and 2. Diamond Reo built m35(actually LWB m36) with no data plates left on it(obviously souvenired ) but we do have chassis no but as yet unknown year , as having possibly been EX Aust army vehicles,no history known on either except that" Drilling Specialties " an  aussie mob  had m35  for a while and we presume the T would have stayed on after WW11 prob with our Guys using it up until the 70s? maybe.
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Mike C on June 15, 2017, 11:16:47 PM
John,

I had some correspondence with someone a few years ? ago about an M35/M36, and did some digging then, (and let the chap know the result). I could find no evidence to suggest Australian army use, but I'm willing to let the experts on here weigh in and prove me wrong.

What is the chassis number of the D-T 980? Or you could trawl through the ARN books (AWM126) on line at the AWM website and find it.

94-2078 is not a plate for an F1 truck. The '94' ie year plates were for the Commercial or 'white' fleet vehicles that were commercial trucks, cars, utes etc purchased in each year, (hence the plate was issued to the 2,078th vehicle purchased in 1994, whatever that was) and could then be sold off as they wore out/reached a target mileage. It took the pressure off using expensive tactical trucks like LRs, Mogs and Macks for everyday, on road use.

Mike
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 16, 2017, 05:34:03 PM
Mike thanks once again,we havent as yet found the DiamondTs chassis no(not that we have looked hard yet) does anyone know of the exact pos' of the 42 yr stamping,i ask because of the 1960s Diamonds we have here they can be in different spots plus they are a fairly light stamping and can be bloody hard to find even with all the paint and associated crud wire brushed etc off,they definately didnt seem to whack the punches too hard back then.
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 16, 2017, 05:39:10 PM
Mike,i will take any plates or other markings with a grain of salt from now on and not as the gospel truth,seeing as they may have been applied just for "effect" except for maybe the ones like Diana mentions which may have been re-issued.
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 21, 2017, 09:49:18 PM
Can anyone explain why all the inters had 'bulging' doors,i thought when i first saw them years ago they had been poorly repaired somewhere but then noticed they all look the same, i think civilian ACCOs have all flat panels including the doors as i have owned an early six wheel tipper and a later eight wheel tipper with the step down door and cant remember the bulge so assume this was just an Army thing.
I still have yet to get truck home so have not really investigated the innards of doors properly to see if there is indeed a need for the extra room that may arise internally .
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: dkg001 on June 22, 2017, 07:22:51 AM
Don't know why they are bulging, but the civilian doors are the same, The later model with the door step is flatter, I would guess to maintain the profile as it is a longer door.
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Chazza on June 22, 2017, 08:24:41 AM
Most "flat" panels have a very slight curve in them, so that the panel can hold its shape. A completely flat door-skin, for example, would flex every time the door is shut and quite possibly bend permanently, if someone leaned on it.

Making the slight curve, whether it be a compound curve or a radius, is one of the hardest things to do accurately when making new ones,

Cheers Charlie
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 22, 2017, 05:20:10 PM

dkg100,Chazza,thanks,"most" doors especially late model cars etc have side intrusion bars fitted and older stuff sometimes had a channel or similar welded at the ends on to "frame",inner skin, and then glued with some form of adhesive ,others had none but may have been a thicker steel etc,i just wondered why IH engineers/designers  or army research and development guys went down the "harder' to achieve compound curve track.
Harder for the backyard builder/restorer to re-create anyway,as factories could stamp whatever shape they liked,i just thought that for the stubbiness ,heightwise etc, of inter doors,flat would have been more than sufficient,may be just one of those things we never will know the real reason for,anyway thanks guys.
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Mick on June 22, 2017, 09:14:48 PM
Hi John,

I think you'll find the Series III came onto the scene later than 72 , more like 77 /78.  They were practically new when I joined the army.  In relation to the green and white plates, Diana refers to a F5 wrecker - they remained in service long after the F1 as the Mog light wrecker variant was delivered much later in the Unimog upgrade program.

I reckon the last F1 I saw other than a odd workshop truck would have been 1985. Of course , in some Southern Army reserve units there might have been a few floating around.

I hope you enjoy her when you get her and I look forward to your updates.

Cheers,

Mick

Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 23, 2017, 10:58:42 PM
Gday mick,We hope to get back and fit all the bits and pieces this weekend Sun 25th june,if all goes well she may even come home same day if not ,well we,ll wait and see.
I have my sons semi professional movie camera and mic set up so we want to get some decent footage of the work and possible transport without really annoying wind noise or the Go pro fisheye lense effect,there doesnt seem to be much on inters on You Tube or any where else just some real short walk arounds and drives ,nothing in depth at all really,something we aim to correct hopefully,or we could just fail miserably as we havn't done anything like this before.
If all fails we should still have some decent still pics anyway.
Humber fv1601 ex Australian army will cop similar treatment as well,but will have to wait a while for any road tests as it is not really driveable yet(fairly complicated  old vehicle).
My sons projects will be done as well but we are both working at our own paces so some may still be a fair way off.
Re-build will be photographed and videoed on the f1 as my son and i quite enjoy watching all sorts of military (and other) vehicle rebuilds,both major refurbishments and "full blown'' resto's so we thought we would give it a go.
We all have to work within our $ budgets and skill sets/limits so i do the best i can with what ive got so not necessarily  a complete rebuild on every component as if parts are still serviceable as is except for may be a new seal or a bearing etc here and there they will be cleaned painted and refitted,i like to test drive the complete vehicle ,see what does or doesnt work and go from there after just doing some basic maintenance etc such as getting some sort of brakes happening,changing oils as or/ if needed,cleaning carby, fuel system,checking steering ,radiator/water pump leaks that may  need a patch just to achieve a testdrive.

John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Chazza on June 27, 2017, 08:21:43 AM

...Chazza,thanks,...i just wondered why IH engineers/designers  or army research and development guys went down the "harder' to achieve compound curve track.
Harder for the backyard builder/restorer to re-create anyway,as factories could stamp whatever shape they liked,i just thought that for the stubbiness ,heightwise etc, of inter doors,flat would have been more than sufficient,may be just one of those things we never will know the real reason for,anyway thanks guys.
John

Yes, hard to recreate by hand is what I meant. If you need help making one, let me know and I will finish my English wheel and have a go at it.

I think the door skin is too big to leave it flat, for the reasons stated in my previous post. You may be familiar with the term "oil canning" i.e. that is when a panel pops in and out at the slightest touch. This can happen to flat panels very easily and if ignored can result in paint cracking and metal-fatigue. If a crown is put in a panel - even a very small one - oil-canning will not occur and the resistance of the panel to being permanently deformed by slight contact, is greatly reduced.

There is great advantage in curved panels,

Cheers Charlie
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on June 27, 2017, 03:50:28 PM
Charlie, thanks for the offer,if door actually  does need it i will get in touch with you.
due to some urgent work needed on my shed roof,it looks like next Sunday will be the only chance i can get back to re-fit all the bits and pieces.   john
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on July 10, 2017, 10:14:28 PM
Sun 9th we got carbies refitted along with new clutch master and slave cyls and rekitted brake master cyls all bled up ok and running reas well tho leads and plugs will be changed.
Radiator seems fine had it running for quite some time and temp gauge did not climb past normal,air builds up alright, gears all there but we ran out of time as we have to change both steer tyres as they look pretty crook and no headlights working but otherwise by next trip up we are hopeful of driving it a bit further than the couple of hundred metres on this run.
Hi /low range is stuck somewhere on linkage prob just from sitting around so will free that up although it is in Hi at moment i dont want to possibly get it stuck in or out of low and not be able to move it at all.
Will get my son to post some pics next weekend and we have some video footage of process thus far,and will get more as we go for a poss' Youtube post later on.
     does any one know the reccomended spark plugs for 283 motor  because i will bet when i go to repco/Autobarn etc they will prob have no  old listings for these.
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Ravvin on July 11, 2017, 08:37:55 AM
Hi, Repco definitely do them.
The original plugs were Bosch W95T6. The modern replacement is the NGK BP4 or the Champion J12YC, I got the NGK ones.
The plug gap should be .028 -.032" or .718 - .832mm.
If you have the air cleaner off for any reason, the valve clearance should be between 0.024" and 0.026" when hot, and preferably while running, but not critical. I found it makes a huge difference and really doesn't take long to do. With the plugs out, put it in 5th gear with the transfer case in neutral and have someone turn the drive shaft while you feel for top dead centre of piston 1 with a long cable tie of something similar. Adjust the valve gap and work through the firing order to do the others.
You can get the original tappet cover gasket from any Iveco dealer, as well as the side cover gasket, if yours leak.
The part numbers are 164421R1 for the tappet cover gasket and 369982R1.
 
Greg.
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on July 11, 2017, 05:53:00 PM
Hi Greg thanks for that, i will need to do the tappets as they are a bit noisy but its better their loose at the moment than tight as they will help burn a valve otherwise.
I will check around for who has the plugs by phone first.
Its good having guys like you on here who have just done what were about to do,will save us scratching around for info,i have read all your posts and glad to see it is all coming together well for you.
  John
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Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Chazza on July 12, 2017, 09:23:52 AM
.. no headlights working but otherwise by next trip up we are hopeful of driving it a bit further than the couple of hundred metres on this run.
...

Good to hear that all is going well John! Is the truck near me? If so I can lend a hand if you need one.

Regarding the headlights, check that the blackout switch isn't on,

Cheers Charlie
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on July 12, 2017, 06:42:40 PM
Hi Charlie,no truck is near Merriden but thanks for the offer.
I did set switch to normal lighting position but we just ran out of time to do any in depth fault finding,will take circuit tester etc back up and clean /check all connections etc and see if we can trace the fault back.
All in all most stuff seems serviceable enough considering it has been sitting for approx 7 years or so untouched (much better than something sitting for 30+yrs tho) 2 or 3 tyres are useable but will have to find some "better" ones as we progress.
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Ravvin on July 12, 2017, 07:41:44 PM
Hi. Not sure if this is any use to you.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/al3mrkrica5693r/MK3%20Electrical.pdf?dl=0

Its the clearest copy of the MK3 wiring diagram I have found. Pretty much the same as the F1 layout, all the wiring numbers seem to match with what's in my truck.

Greg.
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: STDDIVER on July 12, 2017, 08:04:45 PM

Thanks Greg - very clear!

Frank

 
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on July 12, 2017, 09:31:31 PM
Thanks greg,yeah that will help make some sense of it all,cheers   john
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on July 25, 2017, 07:57:38 PM
Home at last!
I went up and fitted new plugs and leads,changed some tyres and got some lights working,drained old fuel and she ran a hell of a lot better.
Doing some other stuff with our lic recovery truck (clapped out ex army Ford Cargo) the gearbox selector fork or something along those lines broke,resulting in us having to leave it at Merriden army museum yard and taking a big chance we got a 48 hr temporary movement permit and finally left for home at around 7.00 pm.
pitch black ,we set off not knowing whether we would even get outside the town limits,but 3 hrs later,$200 of fuel and some oil later we rocked up home with it hardly missing a beat,although oil was EVERYWHERE from a rocker cover gasket that might as well not have been there(mind you it may not be there as havent had a look yet!)everything except speedo worked and even with ear plugs we arrived half deaf due to muffler basically disintegrating on the way.
We had planned on using the Cargo to pull it off the road if it had broken down but that idea went out the window when its gearbox carked it out the front of the museum.
My son and i still had a grin from ear to ear on the way home as it had unexpectedly become an adventure that very well could have gone south but eventually worked out.
Next weekend will involve taking a box out of a D series that looks to be the same and replacing the Cargo box then bringing that back home.
Cheers   John         PS pics up when my son up home here next weekend
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Chazza on July 26, 2017, 09:16:56 AM
Well done cobber!
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Ravvin on July 26, 2017, 09:35:15 AM
Great work!

Those rocker cover gaskets are still available from the Iveco dealers.
Part number is 164421R1 - Gasket, Cylinder Head Cover.

If that gasket is gone, you will probably find the side cover gasket has hardened and is leaking too. Same deal, still available.
Part number 69735R1 - Gasket, Lift Rod Cover.

When I fitted my new gaskets, I uses a Permatex Hardening Gasket Sealant on the side facing the tappet cover and lift rod cover, and a non-setting type on the side touching the block. This means the covers can be removed without destroying the gaskets. Also, if you ever need to replace a gasket again, it is easier to take the cover off and take it to a workbench to scrape/clean off the old one than it is to try cleaning it off the block.

If you use a non-hardening type on both sides, you will find that the cork gasket shrinks and pulls in under the edge of the cover, letting oil leak out. This is probably what happened to your current gasket.

Greg.
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on July 26, 2017, 04:54:30 PM
Thanks Chazza,Greg, i de-oiled everything yesterday now just have to get down to the serious task of actually scraping off the decades worth of accumulated crud that wont shift just by pressure cleaner alone.Greg let me know if that PM reply went thru that i sent you,i have been known to stuff up with this technology thing!
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on July 26, 2017, 07:34:27 PM
Whilst grovelling around underneath scraping crap off g/box,diff housing etc this arvo i eventually found chassis  no on bare bit of rusty chassis and it is the same as on census/data plate so at least i know it didnt cop some other trucks chassis during a rebuild that it may have had whilst still in service,there are plenty of those rather crudely stuck on service plates around the vehicle.
Engine number check is next now that i can actually see there is an engine under all that built up crud.
John
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Ravvin on July 27, 2017, 06:01:35 PM
I had that same thick buildup of dirt, grease and oil on the transfer case in the MK3.
What worked for me was to fill a squirter bottle with straight diesel and spray it all over. I left it sit for a day and hit it with the pressure washer. Almost everything came off with no fuss at all. The only bits left were small patches just under where the input/output shafts were. I figured it was from the heavier leakage in those areas.

When I did the engine sump, I did the same but it didn't quite work out the same. Turns out that at some point, some lazy bugger had put another coat of paint on, straight over all the caked on dirt and grime. It must have been good paint as I had to scrape through it with a putty knife before the diesel and degreaser could do their job.
The main downside is that you are spraying diesel around. I'm out in a paddock and tend to kill patches of grass, but that's just a bonus for me. Less to mow. Not the sort of thing you want to clean off your shed floor or nice lawn. Then again, the old felt and rawhide seals all through these trucks seem to leak oil as part of their rust prevention system, so you might want to get a couple of full sheets on zincalume folded up into low sided catch trays to sit under the worst spots.

Another option is a good steam cleaner, which might work for you as you can drive yours around. The guys next door to me at work had a big but still portable diesel engined steam cleaner. They sold it and the business to someone in another town just when I got my 6x6.

I keep an eye on the For Sale section in the paper and also Gumtree for a steam cleaner, but not many change hands down here.

Greg.
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on August 04, 2017, 06:07:15 PM
Right, everything completely degreased,new rocker cover gasket,new oil filter and seal,new oil, adjusted tappets ,i can hit the button and she starts and runs nice now but will have to get on to muffler next as it is loud/noisy,
Will sort out stuck transfer lever and all the little air valves etc in cab area after that,the winch must work as it has creeped up a bit of the slack in cable after me pushing and pulling things as i scraped off all the poop around  t/fer/winch etc but i will investigate that properly later.
Has not been fun trying to work between rain showers etc after work but every little bit helps.
I have just worked out what the flat bar frame thing was lying in the tray from someones post on requesting pics etc for rear steps and see it is the f1 rear setup ,its good to see pics sometimes of other peoples stuff if only to recognise something that you  dont know what it is  or are missing.
This truck has square tailights but i think originals were round so will have to find something that looks more period correct in my travels.
My photo putter upperer should be up tonight or sat' so will post up pics when i can,g/box out of D series and hopefully sun' we will fit to and retrieve the cargo.
john
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on September 13, 2017, 02:42:49 PM
Winch works! or did maybe,drove truck around paddock before reversing it in to shed but heard a creaking noise then a loud bang,seem to have inadvertently engaged winch and it pulled the slack in cable up and broke all bar two strands before i put foot on clutch,i hope it hasnt broken the shear pin and there is still a heap of tension on cable i dont know how to release before i can try winch again. So much for finding out the ignition cut out doesnt work!
May have to stand back and cut cable with oxy or something ,it broke near front fairlead rollers.
Was going to tie rope off and try and slowly back away in rev before i did this as cable is pretty dry and stiff,but there was enough slack to move it around a foot or so. Learning curves can be pretty sharp with unfamiliar machines  :)
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on September 13, 2017, 02:47:00 PM
We replaced Cargo G/box where it broke down was really easy box to change,and bought the teaspoon tipper home that was still sitting on the back so all functional again
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: Ravvin on September 14, 2017, 08:21:55 AM
Oops.
Looks like the auto brake is holding tension, or you may have pulled the cable down through some layers on the drum, pinching it.
Just put the transfer case in neutral and the gearbox in reverse and slowly let the clutch up. That will wind it out under power.
Don't run too much out and keep it slow, as you may be working against the brake band, and you don't want to wear it out. I'd suggest you have someone at the front to pull the slack out as you run the winch so you don't just loosen up the top layer on the drum.
You probably know this, but if you pick a spot along the cable before where it starts to fray, and warp it in fine wire, you can cut it with a grinder and not get little springy bits that cut you. The eyelet on the end opens up when you remove the 2 bolts and you can then re-wrap the cable around it. Should be all good.

Greg.
Title: Re: another West Australian ACCO 6x6 F1 GS
Post by: johnp on September 14, 2017, 10:16:40 PM
Thanks Greg ,will try to release it tomorrow ,i havnt really looked up the correct use of winch properly yet but will have to do it sooner than later now i think