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Title: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on March 31, 2017, 12:18:57 AM
Does anyone have a Mk3 or Mk4 on full civilian rego.  I'm wondering what the GVM is for civilian use.

I know that someone will tell me that it's 2 1/2 Ton payload, but when you consider that a current Ford Ranger has 3 Tonne payload I'm dumbfounded that the 4x4 Inters would be only 2 1/2 ton.

Going by axle/wheel specs the maximum GVM would be 12 tonne and by military spec 8 Ton including the payload, so I'm thinking (hoping) that its somewhere between 8 and 12.

The reason is that the truck has to go over to Lithgow loaded with club gear and there's a weighbridge on both roads.  I'd hate to run foul of the mermaids.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: dodgeguy1942 on March 31, 2017, 01:51:26 AM
https://truckdealersaustralia.com.au/listing/pdfBrochure/?template=none&id=item-kQmN
This one is listed with agvm of 10470kgs
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: FFRMAN on March 31, 2017, 08:22:16 AM
https://truckdealersaustralia.com.au/listing/pdfBrochure/?template=none&id=item-kQmN
This one is listed with agvm of 10470kgs

HI,

just get a template??
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on March 31, 2017, 09:59:29 AM
https://truckdealersaustralia.com.au/listing/pdfBrochure/?template=none&id=item-kQmN
This one is listed with agvm of 10470kgs
HI,
just get a template??
Same here, just the template to be completed by the user.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Mick_Marsh on March 31, 2017, 01:04:20 PM
Here ya go:

https://truckdealersaustralia.com.au/list/kQm/fire-truck-historic-army-acco-4x4/

And a nice looking one it is too.

Of note, last time I saw the price he was asking $19k. I think it will be sold soon.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: FFRMAN on March 31, 2017, 02:54:25 PM
Here ya go:

https://truckdealersaustralia.com.au/list/kQm/fire-truck-historic-army-acco-4x4/

And a nice looking one it is too.

Of note, last time I saw the price he was asking $19k. I think it will be sold soon.

Wow that's nice.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on March 31, 2017, 02:56:27 PM
Thanks Mick

If it's MY64 it must be an early chassis number.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Mick_Marsh on March 31, 2017, 03:29:47 PM
Here ya go:

https://truckdealersaustralia.com.au/list/kQm/fire-truck-historic-army-acco-4x4/

And a nice looking one it is too.

Of note, last time I saw the price he was asking $19k. I think it will be sold soon.
Wow that's nice.
You should buy it. Use it on the farm.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: john.k on March 31, 2017, 05:40:55 PM
My last rego GVM was 10.8t,being 5.4 for a single wheel axle,with no other factorsx2.If you are on some sort of concessional rego,I suggest you get something in writing re the allowables.Otherwise the scalies will apply their own interpretation,which may be wrong,but may require you to unload before the truck can be moved.On a full rego,the legal load (per axle is how its assessed) is according to the rego details.From my truckin days I know how much the NSW scalies hate trucks and truck drivers,that I would be very careful.I would also be sure to observe rest periods etc.and record same in any official form required.Unless you have written exemption to the contrary.Now I know "mobile homes" are classed as cars,and are exempt the truck rules,but loads cant be carried.Or you could do what we used to do and simply drive past the weighing stations and pretend to be army.I even had a set of proper army plates,two sets actually ,on wrecks I bought on tender and picked up from a holding yard.Regards John.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on March 31, 2017, 09:43:48 PM
Thanks John

Fatigue won't be an issue as the truck is only going over the mountains from just out of Windsor to Lithgow, the only problem is that the mermaids have a weighbridge on both of the only two roads.

I've had 5 phone calls in the last 48 hours and the last contact referred me back to the third contact, so I'm getting the RMS shuffle.  An email request I sent almost a fortnight ago and received several redirect notifications got its first real reply, asking for more information ... is it an AR or AB.....  :'(

My reply was that it was an Inter Mk3 as per the original request but some people call it an AACO Mk3.

Well see where that goes.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: wfc1 on April 01, 2017, 09:48:31 AM
Hello Diana.  If I were you I would go the highway and through Mt Boyce bridge, dual road up to Katoomba, no stress of a convoy of impatient car drivers behind taking risks to pass. The chaps at Boyce will soon put you straight when you get there if they pull you into the shed, just explain the situation and I'm sure they will help, as long as you leave any attitude at home. You may even get the arrow back onto the highway without going through the shed. As far as making you unload if you are heavy is concerned that is not going to happen. They will only ground the vehicle if it is a certain percentage over which I don't think would be possible given the room on the back of the inter, unless you plan on carrying a heap of armour plate over there, or something similar. What a single axle is rated at in all the brochures  does not really matter, it is the manufacturers rating that is recognised and if there is no plate they will probably go by the army rating of 2.5 tonne. If you want to up that it is a matter of an engineers report to say that the truck is capable of carrying more and that is very involved, affecting brakes, air capacity, air build up time, etc etc etc. As far as going past without going in to the bridge, don't even think about it, it is just plain stupid, the fines are not worth it, and the log book is only required if you are travelling over 100ks as the crow flies from the registered address of the truck. I hope this bit of info helps.   Regards, Bruce.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: wfc1 on April 01, 2017, 10:51:06 AM
I should clarify a point in the last post. When I said the RMS go by the manufacturers rating for the axle weight, that is if it is less than or equal to their allowed rate for an axle. Even if the manufacturer says it is capable of an 8 tonne load the RMS will still only allow 6.5 or whatever it happens to be. It's all to do with the weight of the tyre on the road, hence why they spilt weigh. You can be under gross weight and still be booked for over if you are too heavy on one axle. Tyre size and rating comes into play as well. It doesn't always apply that you can just add up the amount of axles and multiply to give you gross either. One of the trucks I have is a twin steer with two 6 tonne axles under the front but together they are only rated at 11 tonne, all to do with the spacing and the / square inch on the road in one spot. Good luck with the RMS Diana.      Regards, Bruce.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: STDDIVER on April 02, 2017, 02:26:33 PM
Hi Diana - the rule is "which ever is the lesser" you can have a single axle with a rating of 5.4 t however, if your tyre rating is less then that, the lower rating rule applies.  If the vehicle has high tyre load ratings but the design load is lower, then the lesser rule applies.  As Bruce says with a twin steer even though each axle has a 6 t the surface area rule only allow 11 t combined due to the steering wheel proximity and surface area loss on twin steer.  In my heavy military vehicles I have driven into weigh stations many times and have been waved through every time.  I always keep my log book up to scratch, however I have never been asked for it as I have never been stopped.  I might be fortunate however if it can go wrong - my name has come out of the stuff up hat too many times to ignore.  I bet your vehicle as an ex NSW Fire Service vehicle has or had a modification plate somewhere on it with the allowable weights for a water carrying vehicle.  At the end of the day, its what the specification plate has written on it  ( 2 1/2  T) unless your tyres have a lesser rating.  Victorian CFA single axle tankers (Dual rear wheels) are rated at around 10 t GVM 3.4 T of water and 5 crew plus gear, foam etc (some vary but this is a general rule) and a few years ago we were told to put them over the weighbridge and the amount of extra equipment we had on board was over 11.5T - CFA rethink on stowing trucks. Its a good thing we were never weighed!

 :D
Frank
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Ravvin on April 02, 2017, 05:37:56 PM
Hi Diana.

I'm sure your also has this spec plate, but just in case you don't, I'll post a pic of the one off my MK3 as it shows the allowable axle loads.

(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a521/Ravvin/Inter%20MK3%20170-952/Plate_zps8a3bb467.jpg)

Wouldn't these weights be what they work off if you were pulled over?
On another point, didn't they ask or have on file the weights that they work off, when you registered it?

I still have to look into rego options down here. Every state seems to have different rego types, requirements and conditions, so it's going to be interesting. I know that down here, if I put it on Club rego, that I can only drive it to, at and from club events, unless I am taking it somewhere to be worked on or inspected. I can't carry any load for monetary return but I can carry items to be displayed or used at a club event.
Down here, I can drive a MK3 or 4 on a Light Truck license, but the F1 requires a Heavy Rigid license and a logbook, which has to be filled out every time I drive it unless I am within 100km of it's "base of operations".
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on April 02, 2017, 08:34:31 PM
Yes I have that plate, which is the original Army spec with a 2 1/2 ton payload making about 8 tonne GVM, however I am lead to believe that the civilian payload is something like 5 ton which seems to be confirmed by two trucks posted above with GVM 10.6 and 10.8 tonne.

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Army%20Trucks/Mk3/th_Inspection002.jpg)
The image above is before restoration started.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: john.k on April 02, 2017, 09:40:31 PM
I dont know about the NSW rules,but in Qld,on a "special interest/sivs rego",you aint supposed to carry the full original load.I believe that for new sivs regos,a gross weight has to be nominated,but nothing is writ in stone.The 10.8 ton comes from the tyre capacity,in the absence of a "compliance plate" fitted under the ADRs.Which is why I say get something in writing from the Dept.I would simply ask"how much can my truck 111 XYZ weigh in gross. and be within the rules.?"I have heard all sorts of things quoted for the Qld rules,but never read anything official.The reply has been "The club must police sivs use by members."Regards John.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Acco 4x4 on May 09, 2017, 06:35:32 PM
Hi Diana,
I was just reading through these posts as I'm looking to rego the mk3 soon...... anyway I'm sure I've missed something here but if your looking to drive your 3/4 to Lithgow and its on normal rego with the weights as indicated on your plate, you don't even need to veer to the scales at all.... GVM is 7990kg.... see attached photo..  :)
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Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Acco 4x4 on May 09, 2017, 06:38:35 PM
While we are on it, does anyone have their 3 or 4 on full rego? Just wondering what insurance clowns (company) they use?
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on May 09, 2017, 06:45:51 PM
Thanks for the info, I had been informed that the checking stations in the Blue Mountains were 4.5 tonne but found out when I arrived at Bell about the 8 tonne, both of the permanent checking stations are 8 tonne although there is a occasional one near Wentworth Falls that is 4.5 tonne.  Good thinking about the Google street view.

In relation to insurance my Mk3 is under Shannons at a good price for limited km, my mate and full time truckie has his White Road Boss and F150 also under Shannons.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Acco 4x4 on May 10, 2017, 06:13:40 PM
Last time I rang Shannons, I got the.... Is it an AB International?........it all got way too hard...... Might have to try again..
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Mick_Marsh on May 10, 2017, 06:31:11 PM
Mine is insured with Shannons.
As a International No. 1 Mk. 3 I think. I'll have to check.
I remember I had no issues.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: 303Gunner on May 10, 2017, 06:45:36 PM
Thanks for the info, I had been informed that the checking stations in the Blue Mountains were 4.5 tonne but found out when I arrived at Bell about the 8 tonne, both of the permanent checking stations are 8 tonne although there is a occasional one near Wentworth Falls that is 4.5 tonne. 
Most are 8 tonne (http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/safety-compliance/inspections-checks/heavy-vehicle-safety-stations.html), including Mt White on the Central Coast that you're likely to encounter. There are two that are 4.5 tonne that I have driven past in the 6x6 Perentie at Taree and Chinderah, but I have never been invited in as they are often closed. I am both curious and terrified as to what they would look for in an ex-mil vehicle.

Of more concern in the Lithgow area are the 4 point-to-point cameras from Mt Victoria Pass to the top of River Lett Hill. Heavy Vehicles are restricted to 40Km/h down the pass, and there is a long stretch of 60km/h roadwork. The point-to-point cameras have paid for themselves with heavy vehicle drivers! For an infrequent Heavy Vehicle driver, often in convoy with Light Vehicles on club trips, it is easy to overlook HV speed limits.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on May 10, 2017, 07:35:25 PM
Mine is insured with Shannons.
As a International No. 1 Mk. 3 I think. I'll have to check.
I remember I had no issues.
My Shannons policy calls it a 1964 International Mk3 Truck 6 cylinder exactly as listed in bold.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Acco 4x4 on May 10, 2017, 09:00:20 PM
I did some googling on the RMS roadside inspection stations and found the following.....
There are eight HVSS located at:

    Mt Boyce (Great Western Highway)
    Mt White (northbound and southbound on the M1 Motorway)
    Marulan (northbound and southbound on the Hume Highway)
    Twelve Mile Creek (Pacific Highway)
    Chinderah (Pacific Highway)
    Pine Creek (Pacific Highway)
    Bell (Bells Line of Road)
    Kankool (New England Highway).

All heavy vehicles with a Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) greater than eight tonnes are required to enter a HVSS (except Chinderah and Pine Creek - 4.5 tonnes). These vehicles must enter a HVSS to ensure the vehicle meets safety and roadworthiness standards and that their drivers are complying with road transport laws.

Failing to enter a HVSS when directed and/or disobeying a 'Trucks must enter' sign may result in a fine.
On another note there did seem to be some missing.... The one in the picture is about 3kms west of Faulconbridge on the GW Highway, although not operational 24/7 I do see the mobile scales in there quite regularly.....

Here is a link for more info for those interested in the types and locations
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/safety-compliance/inspections-checks/heavy-vehicle-safety-stations.html
(http://)
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on May 10, 2017, 10:17:48 PM
<snip> ... On another note there did seem to be some missing.... The one in the picture is about 3kms west of Faulconbridge on the GW Highway, although not operational 24/7 I do see the mobile scales in there quite regularly.....

Here is a link for more info for those interested in the types and locations
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/safety-compliance/inspections-checks/heavy-vehicle-safety-stations.html
(http://)
That's the one I thought was closer to Wentworth Falls.

Interesting factoid, they can't do the brake tests on F1, F2 and F5 Inters using the mobile shaker tables because there's no power divider between the rear axles.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: 303Gunner on May 10, 2017, 10:20:12 PM
I did some googling on the RMS roadside inspection stations and found the following.....
There are eight HVSS located at:

    Mt Boyce (Great Western Highway)
    Mt White (northbound and southbound on the M1 Motorway)
    Marulan (northbound and southbound on the Hume Highway)
    Twelve Mile Creek (Pacific Highway)
    Chinderah (Pacific Highway)
    Pine Creek (Pacific Highway)
    Bell (Bells Line of Road)
    Kankool (New England Highway).

All heavy vehicles with a Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) greater than eight tonnes are required to enter a HVSS (except Chinderah and Pine Creek - 4.5 tonnes). These vehicles must enter a HVSS to ensure the vehicle meets safety and roadworthiness standards and that their drivers are complying with road transport laws.

Failing to enter a HVSS when directed and/or disobeying a 'Trucks must enter' sign may result in a fine.
On another note there did seem to be some missing.... The one in the picture is about 3kms west of Faulconbridge on the GW Highway, although not operational 24/7 I do see the mobile scales in there quite regularly.....

Here is a link for more info for those interested in the types and locations
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/safety-compliance/inspections-checks/heavy-vehicle-safety-stations.html
(http://)
Exactly the link I posted as "Most are 8 tonne" above.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Acco 4x4 on May 10, 2017, 10:29:08 PM
So you did.... another bad.... sorry! Maybe we need to put the links on bright orange or something and flashing lights around them so blind pelicans like me can notice them! ;D

The inspection station at Faulconbridge also has lower speeds for trucks and "trucks use left lane" signage.... I completely forgot last time i Took the big isuzu west.... cruising at road speed (in the right lane too) oops..... :o
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Acco 4x4 on May 12, 2017, 08:56:54 PM
Whilst I'm on fire, I'm keen to join a truck club or similar but was hoping to find one with a few members who have the aaco's... Any suggestions?
Thanks, Tim
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Mick_Marsh on May 12, 2017, 11:56:06 PM
Whilst I'm on fire, I'm keen to join a truck club or similar but was hoping to find one with a few members who have the aaco's... Any suggestions?
Thanks, Tim
Why do you want to join a club?
Does it have to be a truck club?
Maybe you should consider a military vehicle club.
It all depends on the reasons. I am in four clubs, soon to be five. None a "Truck" club.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on May 13, 2017, 08:58:57 AM
Whilst I'm on fire, I'm keen to join a truck club or similar but was hoping to find one with a few members who have the aaco's... Any suggestions?
Thanks, Tim
For a standard Army Inter why not consider the AMVCS, they are a NSW military vehicle club but they wont accept vehicles with modified/replaced engines (or weapons carried on vehicles). I know at least one AMVCS member who has an F1 but whether it goes out much I'm not sure. PM Jan Thompson about them.

Steve Deitman (2Bravo on REMLR) has a wish to have an Army truck convoy in the annual Hauling the Hume event. This would allow a bunch of Sydney owners irrespective of club to combine for the event, I guess we could even carry a non runner on the back of his S-Line and would of course require an MP Land Rover to head the convoy!  8)
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Acco 4x4 on May 13, 2017, 10:21:04 AM
Hi again,
I guess it doesn't have to be a "Truck" club as such, more interested in a club with members who have old army trucks and actually drive them once in a while. I would like to get involved in the "Historic Vehicle Log Book Rego" in the future if i find that i don't use the truck enough to justify full rego. Main thing is a club with army trucks etc...
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: john.k on May 13, 2017, 01:25:32 PM
Some states now demand "originality" for the concessional rego.You must have the correct motor.Others say "period correct" is ok.A lot of this is aimed at Harley choppers and bikies.Also at hotrod builders who use vintage vehicle loopholes to put 450 big blocks in 1935 Bedford utes,using nothing original but the pressed metal.The point of this,is that for sivs rego,you are better off in a local vintage car club,because the club inspector doesnt know a great deal about trucks.The club inspector carries a responsibility under the law for members vehicle that he inspects.So a lot go much further than seeing that you arent swapping plates between vehicles at rallies.With sivs plates you escape govt yearly inspections,but the club is supposed to police a similar yearly inspection,without the rollers ,of course.You can still be inspected on the road,with defect notices and fines,which are high for trucks.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Mick_Marsh on May 13, 2017, 03:16:15 PM
Hi again,
I guess it doesn't have to be a "Truck" club as such, more interested in a club with members who have old army trucks and actually drive them once in a while. I would like to get involved in the "Historic Vehicle Log Book Rego" in the future if i find that i don't use the truck enough to justify full rego. Main thing is a club with army trucks etc...
I reckon VMVC is the go, then. There are a few Inter owners there.
Don't know what truck trips they do but you could always run one.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on May 13, 2017, 09:03:55 PM
Hi again,
I guess it doesn't have to be a "Truck" club as such, more interested in a club with members who have old army trucks and actually drive them once in a while. I would like to get involved in the "Historic Vehicle Log Book Rego" in the future if i find that i don't use the truck enough to justify full rego. Main thing is a club with army trucks etc...
I reckon VMVC is the go, then. There are a few Inter owners there.
Don't know what truck trips they do but you could always run one.
You'd need to follow a fuel tanker to get from Toongabbe (Sydney) to Victoria for a VMVC meet!

Australian Military Vehicle Collectors Society (AMVCS) is a NSW/Sydney based military vehicle club with Jeeps, Land Rovers, WC Dodges etc as well as various trucks a lot WWII but some members have post-WWII vehicles.  They have their annual Winter Rally where there is often a truck or two where they head off into the bush for a weekend.  AFAIK Mark Weltner has his 6X6 Blitz on AMVCS Historic and his Mack T Rex with Western Sydney Truck Club (because of the 6-71 GM donk), he is currently on the look out for a Mk3 or Mk4 Inter to buy/restore. Trevor B also AMVCS has a F1. I'm not a member of AMVCS.

Maybe its a job for KVE to do a truck meet so members of all the different clubs can join in, I know that Scott Rough has a Mk4 and 2 Bravo has multiple Inters (Mk3/4/F1/F2/F5), its worth an ask?
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Mick_Marsh on May 13, 2017, 09:39:22 PM
Hi again,
I guess it doesn't have to be a "Truck" club as such, more interested in a club with members who have old army trucks and actually drive them once in a while. I would like to get involved in the "Historic Vehicle Log Book Rego" in the future if i find that i don't use the truck enough to justify full rego. Main thing is a club with army trucks etc...
I reckon VMVC is the go, then. There are a few Inter owners there.
Don't know what truck trips they do but you could always run one.
You'd need to follow a fuel tanker to get from Toongabbe (Sydney) to Victoria for a VMVC meet!

Australian Military Vehicle Collectors Society (AMVCS) is a NSW/Sydney based military vehicle club with Jeeps, Land Rovers, WC Dodges etc as well as various trucks a lot WWII but some members have post-WWII vehicles.  They have their annual Winter Rally where there is often a truck or two where they head off into the bush for a weekend.  AFAIK Mark Weltner has his 6X6 Blitz on AMVCS Historic and his Mack T Rex with Western Sydney Truck Club (because of the 6-71 GM donk), he is currently on the look out for a Mk3 or Mk4 Inter to buy/restore. Trevor B also AMVCS has a F1. I'm not a member of AMVCS.

Maybe its a job for KVE to do a truck meet so members of all the different clubs can join in, I know that Scott Rough has a Mk4 and 2 Bravo has multiple Inters (Mk3/4/F1/F2/F5), its worth an ask?
Silly me. I thought he was from Toongabbie, Victoria. Out in Gippsland.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: 303Gunner on May 13, 2017, 09:53:17 PM
There is also the Historic Commercial Vehicle Association Inc.. The NSW Association is a bit invisible on the web, but the Vic club has a good website with a forum that often has some great military content. Vic Club site (https://www.hcvc.com.au/).
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Diana Alan on May 13, 2017, 10:32:15 PM
You'd need to follow a fuel tanker to get from Toongabbe (Sydney) to Victoria for a VMVC meet!

Australian Military Vehicle Collectors Society (AMVCS) is a NSW/Sydney based military vehicle club with Jeeps, Land Rovers, WC Dodges etc as well as various trucks a lot WWII but some members have post-WWII vehicles.  They have their annual Winter Rally where there is often a truck or two where they head off into the bush for a weekend.  AFAIK Mark Weltner has his 6X6 Blitz on AMVCS Historic and his Mack T Rex with Western Sydney Truck Club (because of the 6-71 GM donk), he is currently on the look out for a Mk3 or Mk4 Inter to buy/restore. Trevor B also AMVCS has a F1. I'm not a member of AMVCS.

Maybe its a job for KVE to do a truck meet so members of all the different clubs can join in, I know that Scott Rough has a Mk4 and 2 Bravo has multiple Inters (Mk3/4/F1/F2/F5), its worth an ask?
Silly me. I thought he was from Toongabbie, Victoria. Out in Gippsland.
You may be on the mark if there's a Toongabbie in Gippsland and ACCO 4X4 lives there.  I guess we'll have to see if VMVC or AMVCS meets his needs?
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Mick_Marsh on May 13, 2017, 10:49:57 PM
There is also the Historic Commercial Vehicle Association Inc.. The NSW Association is a bit invisible on the web, but the Vic club has a good website with a forum that often has some great military content. Vic Club site (https://www.hcvc.com.au/).
Interesting forum to be on but they are predominately on road vehicles. Really nice ones. I went to one of their display days at Sandown. Took lots of pictures. There were some nice machines there. Look out for my pict on their website.
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Acco 4x4 on May 14, 2017, 09:05:00 PM
Hi all,
Thanks so much for your suggestions.... Im in the NSW Toongabbie so unfortunately the Victorian club is a bit far. I was checking out all the leads and the AMVCS looks like it might be a goer! As suggested earlier it would be nice to do a "Haul the Hume" in an Army convoy too.....
Title: Re: Civilian GVM for Mk3/Mk4
Post by: Jan Thompson on May 15, 2017, 05:26:47 PM
I am the Public Relations Officer of the AMVCS and we have a number of 4WD outings coming up. If you would like to send me an email on kveinc@optusnet.com.au I could forward you the most recent newsletter. Next weekend we have an event coming up at the Menangle Steam Museum and on the June long weekend a few of us are going out to Bylong Creek to the Mogfest as they also are wanting ex ADF vehicles. There are a few AMVCS members who live in or near Toongabbie. I could introduce you to a few people who own Internationals and put you in contact with the guys in Victoria who came to Corowa this year.