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Title: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on May 23, 2014, 06:01:48 PM
G'day all,

Just putting out the feelers to see if anyone has purchased and fitted the Defender Wolf rad haz / thermal insulation kit?
I have just ordered one from the UK and am looking forward to getting it. If anyone has already done the fit, any tricks/issues and is there much difference? (too late now as I have bought it!!)

Plattty
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: juddy on May 23, 2014, 06:14:42 PM
I have had mine for 6 months, keep meaning to get it fitted, suppose now its winter might be a good idea

Out of Interest what did they charge you shipping?
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on May 23, 2014, 06:17:30 PM
I don't know how to do hand in front of mouth!! :o But $140 postage. It is always the killer from the UK. The other place I was looking at were charging nearly 140 pounds postage!!

Platty
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: juddy on May 23, 2014, 06:22:09 PM
$140 for something of that size is very good. More than what you probably paid for the part too.

Unfortunately what with the change in exchange rates and the increases in both fuel, transportation and a rise in the goods themselves, theres been a big price increase, over the last 12 months we have seen a 17% increase in costs, gone and going are the days when the Uk was a cheap place to buy things.



Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on May 23, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
I think $190 total delivered is pretty good for what it is. However, when the postage is 3 times the cost of the item! That being said, I have just bought some other bits and pieces from the UK, and the postage was cheaper that what it was to get something of smaller size from QLD??? Go figure...

Platty
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Aussie Jeepster on May 23, 2014, 08:46:32 PM
Any details on where you got this from?
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on May 23, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
G'day,

If you go to the olde fleabay UK and search Defender Wolf RAD HAZ kit thermal insulation and any combos similar!!!
I stumbled across them looking for a replacement soft top.
A few guys list them from time to time over there. Most don't offer postage to Aus in the listing..... just ask them and they will generally give you a quote. Postage quotes I got were from 75 pounds to 140 pounds. Expect the kit will be from 20 pounds upwards..... I paid 25 for mine. If that helps you.
The guy I got mine isn't listing any at the moment, I will send him a message and ask him if he as more if you like?

Platty
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on May 23, 2014, 10:01:17 PM
Any details on where you got this from?

His user name is     oms7ru 
Search for that on the bay in UK. He might not have them listed but he tells me he has some left.

Platty
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Ellard on May 24, 2014, 06:03:13 AM
Hi there all

Can you tell me more about this kit - what it looks like etc

Wayne
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on May 24, 2014, 08:16:13 AM
Essentially it is a foam lined with aluminium foil. This is then wrapped in a pvc like cover. It basically fits on to the 110 like the canvas soft top but sits underneath it.
They are designed for the UK operators so that they have less exposure to the radio transmissions. However, it has been said that these kits offer good thermal protection, ie keep it warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer.....and keeps the water off you  ;D
If you do a search on the net for them, you will see a few results.
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on June 03, 2014, 12:02:11 PM
So the thermal rad haz kit arrived today, it took about a week to get here from the UK. I will keep you updated with the fit out!!
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Uncle Ho on June 07, 2014, 03:21:47 PM
G'day Wayne  :)

It is a little bit like our silver lining on the Perenties,but with out the heat/cold sleeve
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on June 07, 2014, 07:34:58 PM
G'day all.....

So I have managed to fit the rad haz kit with only just a few more bits to secure down. It is a little bit fiddly, but pretty easy for the most part. The kit comes with three sections, cab, middle and rear...and it weighs about 7kg all up. It has straps, buckles and velcros too for the fitment. The kit I bought did not have instrcutions, but was easy enough to work out how it went together.

I noticed instantly the difference in temperature in the rover while I was fitting it, when driving, and the noise has reduced quite alot. Mainly the noise from the canopy and wind, but, it was a massive improvement from what it was before fitting it. It certainly has a more comfortable feel inside now, and I can even feel the heater working!!!!!

Any questions, feel free to drop me a line.

 
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: juddy on June 07, 2014, 07:53:22 PM
I was only thinking about this the other day whilst driving mine, and the bloody noise that comes from the canvas flapping around, I must try and get mine fitted soon.
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on June 07, 2014, 08:01:36 PM
I was only thinking about this the other day whilst driving mine, and the bloody noise that comes from the canvas flapping around, I must try and get mine fitted soon.
YEP!!! No more flapping canvas noise!!!!
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Magellan on June 08, 2014, 11:46:34 AM
G'day all.....

So I have managed to fit the rad haz kit with only just a few more bits to secure down. It is a little bit fiddly, but pretty easy for the most part. The kit comes with three sections, cab, middle and rear...and it weighs about 7kg all up. It has straps, buckles and velcros too for the fitment. The kit I bought did not have instrcutions, but was easy enough to work out how it went together.

I noticed instantly the difference in temperature in the rover while I was fitting it, when driving, and the noise has reduced quite alot. Mainly the noise from the canopy and wind, but, it was a massive improvement from what it was before fitting it. It certainly has a more comfortable feel inside now, and I can even feel the heater working!!!!!

Any questions, feel free to drop me a line.

Hi Plattman, do you would this kit suit 109" FFR?
Daryl
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on June 08, 2014, 03:29:59 PM
G'day Daryl,

Below is the advert from the guy I bought it from. As highlighted, it should be easy enough to make it fit a 109. I can't see why it wouldn't fit.  I have seen them used in hardtops too. In my opinion, it is worth the money just for the noise reduction alone!!!!!!

Platty

"THESE ARE THERMAL INSULATION KITS MADE FOR THE ARMY. KEEPING THE HEAT IN DURING THE WINTER AND THE HEAT OUT IN THE SUMMER WITH THE ADDED BONUS OF OFFERING LIMITED PROTECTION AGAINST RADIATION. NO ONE SHOULD BE WITHOUT ONE THESE eh ?
 
THESE ARE MADE FOR THE MILITARY 110 WOLF HARDTOP OR SOFT TOP LAND ROVER,THEY COME IN 3 SECTIONS (AS SEEN IN PHOTO) WITH A FITTING KIT SUPPLIED. NO INSTRUCTIONS THOUGH.
 
PHOTO SHOWS KIT SAT ON THE SOFT TOP FRAME OF A DEFENDER 110, IT SHOULD BE FITTED UNDER THE FRAME. THERE ARE VARIOUS VELCRO STRAPS AND THINGS FIXED TO THE SECTIONS TO HELP FIT IT ON TO THE VEHICLE.
 
WOULD NOT BE TO HARD TO MAKE IT FIT TO ANY SOFT TOP LWB SERIES 2 / 3, 110 OR DEFENDER.   DEPENDING ON HOW KEEN YOU ARE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT FIT A SWB 88 OR 90."

ALL KITS ARE NEW AND BAGGED
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: juddy on June 08, 2014, 07:12:16 PM
Fitted mine today, bit of pain with the rfsv
Boat racks will need to come off to get the outer straps over the higher rops
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: juddy on June 09, 2014, 12:43:18 PM
Drove Max today first time with the Insulation kit in, and even not fully fitted yet its made a huge difference to the noise.

My kit came with a fitting kit, and I do have a large pile of bits I have no idea where they go.  But I think well worth the money. Glad I got a few..
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on June 09, 2014, 06:37:15 PM
Drove Max today first time with the Insulation kit in, and even not fully fitted yet its made a huge difference to the noise.

My kit came with a fitting kit, and I do have a large pile of bits I have no idea where they go.  But I think well worth the money. Glad I got a few..
Mine also came with some other bits and pieces and a bag of hex nuts, however......my three year old was helping me, I have no idea where they are now!
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Magellan on June 11, 2014, 10:36:55 PM
G'day Daryl,

Below is the advert from the guy I bought it from. As highlighted, it should be easy enough to make it fit a 109. I can't see why it wouldn't fit.  I have seen them used in hardtops too. In my opinion, it is worth the money just for the noise reduction alone!!!!!!

Platty

"THESE ARE THERMAL INSULATION KITS MADE FOR THE ARMY. KEEPING THE HEAT IN DURING THE WINTER AND THE HEAT OUT IN THE SUMMER WITH THE ADDED BONUS OF OFFERING LIMITED PROTECTION AGAINST RADIATION. NO ONE SHOULD BE WITHOUT ONE THESE eh ?
 
THESE ARE MADE FOR THE MILITARY 110 WOLF HARDTOP OR SOFT TOP LAND ROVER,THEY COME IN 3 SECTIONS (AS SEEN IN PHOTO) WITH A FITTING KIT SUPPLIED. NO INSTRUCTIONS THOUGH.
 
PHOTO SHOWS KIT SAT ON THE SOFT TOP FRAME OF A DEFENDER 110, IT SHOULD BE FITTED UNDER THE FRAME. THERE ARE VARIOUS VELCRO STRAPS AND THINGS FIXED TO THE SECTIONS TO HELP FIT IT ON TO THE VEHICLE.
 
WOULD NOT BE TO HARD TO MAKE IT FIT TO ANY SOFT TOP LWB SERIES 2 / 3, 110 OR DEFENDER.   DEPENDING ON HOW KEEN YOU ARE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT FIT A SWB 88 OR 90."

ALL KITS ARE NEW AND BAGGED

thanks v.much Platty. I live in the Vic high country so it could be advantageous for the winter snow trips! LROCV do a 'Leaf springs & Summit' annual trip to Mt. Skene, I could be the envy...a heater AND insulation. All I need now are the heated front screens and I'm set.  8)

Daryl
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Magellan on June 11, 2014, 10:47:11 PM
BTW chaps, how does the front part connect to the windscreen? The rear sections look straight forward enough though how are the bottom edges fastened to the body?

cheers, Daryl
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: juddy on June 12, 2014, 07:25:34 AM
Not the best picture, the kit comes with x4 buckles that attach to the screen inner lip, theses then match up with the 4 straps that run from the back.

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/juddyburton/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0913_zpsd326c25a.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/juddyburton/media/Our%20Perentie/DSC_0913_zpsd326c25a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: juddy on June 12, 2014, 07:26:45 AM
The more I drive it the more I like this idea, makes it feel a little more car like too...
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Barefoot dave on June 12, 2014, 08:48:19 AM
The more I drive it the more I like this idea, makes it feel a little more car like too...
Mods, remove this interloper immediately for such barefaced sacralige!! >:( :o


stirer!
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on June 13, 2014, 07:24:10 PM
BTW chaps, how does the front part connect to the windscreen? The rear sections look straight forward enough though how are the bottom edges fastened to the body?

cheers, Daryl
I haven't got to attaching them to the body yet..... however the front connects by the tension straps just above the visors. You will see where the hook can fit, it just clips there and you are set.

Platty
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Uncle Ho on June 14, 2014, 12:29:54 PM
Aah! all these wimps that want to make a soft top feel like a hard top or sedan ::) the true beauty of a soft top Landrover is the happy flapping of a canvas top at speed  :D
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: plattman on June 19, 2014, 08:23:17 PM
BTW chaps, how does the front part connect to the windscreen? The rear sections look straight forward enough though how are the bottom edges fastened to the body?

cheers, Daryl
I haven't got to attaching them to the body yet..... however the front connects by the tension straps just above the visors. You will see where the hook can fit, it just clips there and you are set.

Platty

Just an update, I secured mine to the front by releasing the windscreen clamps. I then placed some of the kit under and tightened the clamps back up. In relation to being wimps......us wimps will be warmer this winter (I can feel the heater working now), and be able to have a conversation without asking to say again over and over due the ringing in the ears from all that "flapping"!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: THE BOOGER on June 20, 2014, 12:35:43 AM
BTW chaps, how does the front part connect to the windscreen? The rear sections look straight forward enough though how are the bottom edges fastened to the body?

cheers, Daryl
I haven't got to attaching them to the body yet..... however the front connects by the tension straps just above the visors. You will see where the hook can fit, it just clips there and you are set.

Platty

Just an update, I secured mine to the front by releasing the windscreen clamps. I then placed some of the kit under and tightened the clamps back up. In relation to being wimps......us wimps will be warmer this winter (I can feel the heater working now), and be able to have a conversation without asking to say again over and over due the ringing in the ears from all that "flapping"!!!!  ;D

SORRY DID YOU SAY SOMETHING ;D ;D
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Hot Rover on June 20, 2014, 07:57:35 AM
I have never heard any noise as I already have TINITUS!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry for yelling I couldn't hear myself due to this dam noise in my head. So solution save your money and drive your vehicle lots and you won't hear it any more. One other tip I cancelled my gym membership, I decided not to get power steering so I get an upper body workout.
 Cheers
Rod
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: juddy on June 20, 2014, 07:58:58 AM
Aah! all these wimps that want to make a soft top feel like a hard top or sedan ::) the true beauty of a soft top Landrover is the happy flapping of a canvas top at speed  :D

No its a pain in the ass. ;)
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Dozer on November 07, 2017, 01:11:20 PM
Does anyone know if these thermal insulation kits are still available and where they can be bought?? 
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: 303Gunner on November 07, 2017, 10:38:33 PM
G'day,

If you go to the olde fleabay UK and search Defender Wolf RAD HAZ kit thermal insulation and any combos similar!!!

Platty
Still there: UK E-Bay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-WOLF-WMIK-110-RADIATION-HAZARD-INSULATION-LINER-KIT-RAD-HAZ-KIT/112559431966?epid=21005080899&hash=item1a3510a11e:g:I6YAAOSwx3NZZBCj).
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: juddy on November 08, 2017, 09:18:02 AM
Still at a good price too.
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Dozer on November 08, 2017, 09:12:33 PM
Thanks 303Gunner  - Now to convince them to post outside of Europe to Aust! Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: ChrisBro on April 16, 2019, 02:52:09 PM
Found the MOD fitting manual for the RadHaz Insulation Liner. Pages 89 - 97.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/405637/FOI2015_01547_Percival_Landrover_Defender_Wolf_110_Annex_A_AESP_2320_D_128_811_2_45-O.pdf

Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: STDDIVER on April 16, 2019, 04:45:54 PM
Good one Chris - great resource !   Thanks for sharing.

STDDIVER
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: 303Gunner on April 16, 2019, 11:55:27 PM
GAWD!!!!  :o

Page 195 says the Pintle Hook is a heavy item and it is "Advisable" 2 people are required to remove and re-install it. I'll call my Nana to see if she can come round to do the heavy lifting.
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: ChrisBro on April 17, 2019, 08:22:50 AM
Its is British.... Health and safety up the wazzoo!
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Iamsam on April 17, 2019, 08:12:05 PM
If these are still available would it be advantageous to do a group buy (if a few were interested) to combine postage and try and get the overall landed cost down a bit? I would put one on my rfsv.
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: dugite on April 18, 2019, 07:42:34 AM
If these are still available would it be advantageous to do a group buy (if a few were interested) to combine postage and try and get the overall landed cost down a bit? I would put one on my rfsv.



Please consider this;  RFSVs have completely different and difficult to remove ROPS, so it could be an idea to check:
(a) that you can simply remove the the existing ROPS and
(b) if it will fit;   :)
Title: Re: Defender Wolf RAD HAZ / Thermal Insulation kit??
Post by: Iamsam on April 18, 2019, 08:05:20 PM
If these are still available would it be advantageous to do a group buy (if a few were interested) to combine postage and try and get the overall landed cost down a bit? I would put one on my rfsv.



Please consider this;  RFSVs have completely different and difficult to remove ROPS, so it could be an idea to check:
(a) that you can simply remove the the existing ROPS and
(b) if it will fit;   :)

Good point dugite