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REMLR Member Sheds => REMLR Member Sheds => Diana A's Shed => Topic started by: Diana Alan on December 24, 2013, 08:09:06 AM

Title: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on December 24, 2013, 08:09:06 AM
Another project is an ex-South African Defence Force, Radio Relay truck.  The vehicle was imported to Victoria by an ex-pat South African and sold to Four Wheel Dives in Blackburn South.  It is an unusual unit in Australia, being a CKD SIIB built during the SIII era with SIII synchromesh gearbox, front + rear Salisbury diffs and clamshell chassis.  It was saved from dismantling when it was taken to Tasmania and converted to a camper, but not before the front Salisbury was removed for another vehicle.

I purchased the vehicle from Dave B in Tasmania with the assistance of Phoenix and then drove it to Sydney.  (But not without a lot of time on the road, and eventually both brake and overheating problems, including a blown radiator hose.

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Forward%20Control/Gog-of-Magog/8909046.jpg)

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Forward%20Control/Gog-of-Magog/8909045.jpg)

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(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Forward%20Control/Gog-of-Magog/IMG_8637.jpg)

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Forward%20Control/Gog-of-Magog/IMG_8646.jpg)

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Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Young Eric on December 24, 2013, 09:57:50 PM
What engine ?
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on December 25, 2013, 12:54:31 AM
Land Rover 6 cylinder. But low ratio gearbox.

It only klicked over 15,000 original km on the journey up from Melbourne.
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on May 25, 2014, 10:37:09 PM
After Corowa and having waited over two years for a friend to do an internal curve on a sheet of folded aluminium I contacted Simon Allen who builds the Dodge command car replica bodies.  A fortnight after sending down the templates I received the finished panels.

I now have proper wheel arches!  8)

 
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on May 25, 2014, 10:51:04 PM
Spend the rest of the day preparing other panels for paint, sorry no piccys.  However while sanding the front grill panel I found four holes arranged in a square on both sides.  Placing an truck sized tac sign over the holes they were exact matches for the holes on both sides.  More than that, I found a third set of holes arranged in the same rectangle on the rear off-side of the vehicle.

Now I'm wondering if the vehicle had a formation sign and a unit sign on the front and a unit sign on the rear.  Its odd because none of the images of SADF vehicles I've seen had anything like tactical signs on their vehicles.

Another odd issue is a number of bolts on the LH rear that do nothing.  When you look at images of other SADF radio trucks they often have various bits of kit on the rear.  More investigation to do!
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Phoenix on May 26, 2014, 10:11:21 AM
A much beter looking wheelarch now Diana!

Some mysterious holes and bolts it seems as well.  It all only adds to the mystery eh!
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on May 26, 2014, 11:33:49 AM
I always wondered why they didn't fix the rear suspension sag instead of butchering the wheel arch.

When I had the springs re-set and an extra leaf inserted, the body came back up and now sits level, so you don't need the arches cut out.

The additional storage bin outside could be useful, as would a frame for one of the 24V charging sets.  The SADF used other SIIB as dedicated battery charging vehicles, so didn't usually need to carry generators.  AFAIK the radio body SIIB didn't generate their own 24V and were only used stationary.
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on May 31, 2014, 07:38:09 PM
A couple of busy days, so far this weekend, I have sanded and etch primed most of Gogs panels, then re-sanded and re-etched several panels that mush have had acrylic paint previously.

Masked up the whole vehicle and this afternoon sprayed a coat of primer surfacer.

Maybe the first coat of colour tomorrow afternoon.  :)
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on June 01, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
No painting today, was raining all day and we had several blackouts so good thing I wasn't in the middle of spraying.

Spent some time rubbing back and finding things that needed filling so dit that and then prepared the door tops for paint.

A few images to say I'm not fibbing about yesterday.

Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on June 08, 2014, 04:32:03 PM
Gog a glass and a half! (or is that Cadbury's? in either case they're both chocolate!)
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Phoenix on June 10, 2014, 11:19:29 AM
that will look so different in the light of day compared to what it did when I drove it!
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on June 10, 2014, 12:44:10 PM
It will truly be a "demon of biblical proportions" or at least chocolate proportions.  It will certainly need some colour to break up the brown.  It is why I'm currently looking for a signwriter to reproduce some SADF unit signs and replicate the SADF Army polygon device.  The only images I have are too small to blow up digitally to print on vinyl adhesives.

I know it's not PC, but going from the date of the LPG installation in Tasmania, the vehicle would have been disposed of by the SADF before or about the same time as the essentially Afrikaans SADF was combined with the African nationalist forces and Bantustan defence forces to form the SANDF under the new 'Republic of South Africa' flag.  For this reason I'm seriously thinking of using the old Union of South Africa/(first) Republic of South Africa flag.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Flag_of_South_Africa_1928-1994.svg/125px-Flag_of_South_Africa_1928-1994.svg.png)

instead of the current flag:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/125px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png)

Even though the earlier flag is associated with apartheid it is the correct flag for the vehicle's service.

What would others do in this situation?
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Phil B on June 10, 2014, 01:01:19 PM
Diana,

As a National Serviceman and mechanic from that era I would say the old flag is the way to go to preserve the history.
Yes we all agree that apartheid was wrong but the history is still history no matter how hard others try to change it.
Don't get me wrong I fully support the new flag and all it stands for but my vote would be for the old one.

Regards,

Phil.
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: DennisM on June 13, 2014, 07:00:10 PM
As he said ^^^^^^^^ cheers Dennis :)
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on June 15, 2014, 08:50:48 PM
Sorry no piccies this week.

Stripped off almost all the masking and the vehicle is much improved in appearance.  Installed insect screens in the firewall vents (not original SADF but hate getting bugs inside when your travelling).  Then spent some time fixing on bits and pieces like the spare wheel retaining bracket.

When I purchased the vehicle it had a 3 way fridge, which burst it's boiler because of the sag in the rear end.  Not a fan of the 3 way fridges I purchased a 2 way engel to replace it.  Now I don't have to worry about CO build up inside the cab and so don't need all the louvered vents. last weekend I replaced the wall insulation in one hole and plated over it.  Noticing some holes that didn't quite fit I did some investigating.

The weight placard actually goes on the LHS and with luck I have been able to use that to cover the remaining evidence of the lower louver vent. 

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Forward%20Control/Gog-of-Magog/IMG_8647.jpg)

and after that the fill in the back of the front mudguard where the tyre pressure plates were fitted.  Unfortunately I only have one placard for the front.  But finding the evidence of the plates fitted to the front, I am now satisfied the plates were fitted on the rear.  Probably in the bits that were cut our and now replaced.

Then I found the holes to match the warranty plate:

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Forward%20Control/Gog-of-Magog/IMG_8645.jpg)

Now just have to work out where the data plate was fitted.

Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on November 01, 2016, 10:45:54 PM
Since my Mk3 is now back on the road I've been back onto Gog and its getting quite close to driving out of the shed.

Several hiccups have delayed progress.

1. Fuel tank. The plans have been to lift the tank to the original height so the diff illumination can be seen from the rear.  When the tank was removed it was obvious that there was a fuel leak in the top folded seam, so the intended fix was the clean inside and apply a tank sealant prior to re-fitting.  Unfortunately when I started pressure washing inside the tank flakes of resin started coming away. On closer inspection the tank previously had a window cut in the side for a previous repair.  The result being the tank could not be reliably repaired/sealed.  Given that there were only about 5,000 109/110 forward controls ever made replacement fuel tanks are almost unobtainable and added to that Gog's tank had been further modified for the rear spare wheel carrier.  A new replacement tank was fabricated and that is now installed at the higher position.

2. Lamps and wiring. Head, side, indicator and stop/tail lamps have all been installed.  The front wiring fitted together with the original terminals to the standard scheme and worked first up (at least worked with the newly installed hazard lamp switch.  The rear has been somewhat more difficult. The indicator and side lamps were connected and worked by a system of trial and error.  Unfortunately the stop lamp wiring couldn't be identified at the rear even with a test pencil. The result is I've removed the spaghetti junction at the rear of the chassis which had original Land Rover, SADF and post service civilian elements and am now re-terminating all the wires in a logical system. It seems that the SADF installed a 7 function terminal block which would make things easier (if some of the screws weren't stripped). The problem is that the original green/purple wire has been cut at the end of the original Land Rover harness, so this hasn't been operational for some time. There is a secondary harness running through the chassis, which I'm assuming contains the SADF convoy lighting, but so far haven't been able to identify an active stop lamp wire.

Its all a bit awkward doing problem solving when you don't have either an SADF SIIB wiring schematic or even a civilian SIIB wiring schematic.

Currently attempting to identify wires at the front black wire white trace, black wire blue trace, brown wire green trace (runs to rear in secondar harness).  Any ideas?

Photos to follow.
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: dugite on November 02, 2016, 06:14:11 AM
Sounds like you're making progress - well done Diana.

I  am no help with the wiring unfortunately.
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on November 02, 2016, 08:01:44 PM
More progress late this afternoon, all over the metro area today (Arncliffe -> Warriwood -> Glenorie -> Leppington -> Arncliffe) so didn't get to the Chook Shed till almost 4.00pm.

finished off the modified long Defender mirror arms.

Then attacked the rear wiring.  A new terminal block fitted and  wires terminated (with artistic licence using the civvy trailer wiring colour codes and numbering).  Then investigated the absence of a stop lamp signal to find that the brown wire in the auxiliary harness.  This was only revealed when I discovered the front lamps had stopped working as a consequence of the convoy switch in the blackout position. Switched it back to normal, the front lamps came on and then was able to get a stop lamp signal at the rear. 

Normal front and rear lamps all now working.

Very happy.  8)

Also identified the black wires with white trace as the low brake fluid warning. This was achieved by studying the schematic in the 90/110/130 workshop manual.  Unfortunately the reservoir with the low fluid cap has been replaced with one from 101 without the low fluid mechanism.

took a couple of piccies on the phone, but was late in the day with low light  and poor shed lighting.
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: THE BOOGER on November 02, 2016, 08:43:14 PM
Have it ready for Corowa? if not plenty to choose from The inter with a big trailer would be good :)
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on November 02, 2016, 08:54:48 PM
Mk3 Inter will probably hitch a ride on the back of the S-Line as I rather not spend all day and into the night just getting there. 

The decision then will be which to drive, Gog or the Perentie or the SIII Ffreddy

Gog will go to Ironfest and Camden Park 2017 and Corowa 2018.
Title: Re: Diana's ex-SADF SIIB Radio Relay, AK-032 - Gog
Post by: Diana Alan on November 06, 2016, 09:01:17 PM
The wiring seems to have been sorted.  Spaghetti junction has disappeared everything is neat as it should be and the NATO 12 pin socket has been wired in using the modified schematic (Attached).  I am wondering whether I should  install a double pole single throw change over switch on pins H and J to revert the wiring to standard should I tow someone else's trailer?

The convoy lights are working but the diff illumination would be a little difficult to see from too close.