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Vehicle Variants => Long Range Patrol Vehicle (LRPV) => Topic started by: Tommy on June 02, 2012, 07:19:07 PM

Title: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on June 02, 2012, 07:19:07 PM
Recently I added another rare 'late' S2A Mk2 LRPV to my collection. LRPV 179-520 was found on Gumtree and subsequently purchased and recovered early April 2012.

When I first viewed the vehicle on the Gumtree advertisment, it appeared to be a bitza. As most of the bolt-on SASR modifications had been removed it was not immediately obvious that this Land Rover was infact an LRPV. The tub was ex NZ Army FFR as was the front guard side panels. When I enlarged the main photo on the Gumtree advertisment, I spotted a 'box like' tailgate rather than the standard type. The box tailgate was an integral part of every S2A LRPV. This was enough for me to phone the seller and inspect the vehicle at the earliest convenience.

After a closer examination of the vehicle I identified evidence of numerous SASR mods. These included quad shock rear diff, long range passenger fuel tank, bolt holes to the dash for the MG mount and holes to the door surround for the side mounted spare wheel holder.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/Advertisment-1.jpg)   (http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/1808bhe_20-2.jpg)

179-520 is a Mk2 configured vehicle and was previously unknown to me or REMLR. It is noted in the REMLR ARN list as a standard GS with no reference to SASR. Now having found 520, this confirms the conversion of four late S2As to SASR LRPVs. 179-500, 179-502, 179-520 and 180-899.

179-520...109...1971 Series 2A...6028...Truck, Utility, 3/4 Ton, GS, Cargo...25354545K...25337622G...Late 2A...Perth auction...17.10.91

520 is in remarkably good condition with no rust in either the bulkhead or chassis and is drivable. Apart from a replacement tub, guard side panels and the removal of SASR mods, it is relatively complete. Interestingly, 520s motor is from ARN 172-499.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/179-520f-1.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/179-520b-1.jpg)

REMLR members Cliffy (Cliff) and Dodge (Gary) checking out the LRPVs.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/179-520d-1.jpg)
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on June 02, 2012, 07:23:07 PM
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/179-520c-1.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/179-520h-1.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/179-520g-1.jpg)
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on June 02, 2012, 07:25:43 PM
First job was to remove the ugly waterpipe bull bar and attach an original late S2A LRPV brush bar with PSP mat holders. The final touch was to add two PSP mats cut to the correct length.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/Front1.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/Front2.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/Front3.jpg)
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on June 02, 2012, 07:28:17 PM
Part of my research into this LRPV is to contact it's past owners, ask some questions and document it's history. I managed to catch up with a previous owner (two owners back) this week. Unfortunately, he bought the Land Rover as you see it today so could not answer my questions about the NZ army FFR tub etc. The only change he made was to do some work to the body panels and paint it in it's current undercoat grey.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/Painting520a-1.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/Painting520-1.jpg)
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on June 02, 2012, 07:36:19 PM
As the tub on 520 in not original Australian army, it was removed and sold to a fellow Land Rover owner. I have a replacement Australian army tub that will be installed in due course. Since these photos were take, the doors have gone to REMLR member rednjoeys (Wade) GS project and the windscreen (and hoops set) to another Perth based project.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/a-1.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/b-1.jpg)
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on June 02, 2012, 07:38:59 PM
Recently I was able to examine the original under tub machine gun pedestal steel mounting plate that was taken off 179-520 20 years ago. Although somewhat rusty, the plate is soldiering on as a cover for the mains water meter and tap. Although it is 'just a steel plate', it does tell me how and where it was mounted on the chassis. The location of the pedestal mount within the tub was also determined due to the position of the four mounting bolt holes. I took and documented all the necessary measurements so that the plate can be accurately replicated at a later date.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/GunPlate1-1.jpg)   (http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/GunPlate2.jpg)

These plates were installed directly under the rear floor section of the tub so that the machine gun pedestal mount could be bolted down to a structurally sound fixture. The original tub floor was proven to be totally unsuitable. This particular plate required the total removal of the rear section of tub floor and floor crossmembers. The plate was then installed on top of the chassis and the tub floor covered with sheet metal. My other 'late S2A' LRPV, 180-899 has the same steel plate and sheet metal modification so replicating this mod on 520 should be straight forward.

The examination of this steel plate was important as I now have all the necessary information to replicate the entire tub for 520 as it was in SASR service. Unfortunately, the original tub - along with most of the 'bolt on mods' - was dumped at the Seabird tip in 1992. I'm chasing down the other parts that were given away in 1992 in the hope that they may still exist.
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on June 02, 2012, 07:45:55 PM
After further research and numerous phone calls, I managed to source three photos of 179-520 in it's original setup.

This photo was taken in late 1991 immediately after it's purchase from defense sales auction. Like most of the LRPVs sold at auction, the camouflage paint had faded off somewhat so the colours you see in the first photo are not a true representation of the original paint scheme. I have tweeked the second photo so that it now shows a more honest representation of the scheme.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/179-5201991-2.jpg)   (http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/Camo-1.jpg) 

Fortunately, this camouflage scheme still exists under the two coats of 'civilian' paint (light grey and forrest green). The 'brush applied' black as seen on the bonnet, was applied by a previous owner. I spent some time rubbing back the layers of paint with 'wet & dry' and the true camouflage colours have now been identified and documented. With this and the other 2 photos taken at the same time, I have enough information to accurately restore 520 back to it's authentic camouflage scheme. I'm still trying to track down an 'in service' photo of 520. Will post up if I find one.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/BonnetCamo.jpg)
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: master chief on June 03, 2012, 07:42:38 PM
Got to admire your dedication Tommy, Should be more of it, well done on realising what it was and purchasing it, look forward to future progress and hope you find an in service pic.

MC
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Cliffy on June 07, 2012, 09:35:58 PM
Hmmmm....
Looks familiar :o
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: skippy down under on June 27, 2012, 09:48:15 AM
Nice Tommy, 
Like your work. ;) Please keep the post's coming with photo updates.
Stephen
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Uncle Ho on June 30, 2012, 11:25:21 AM

G'day Tommy  :)

Is there a possibility that this vehicle might have been sold to a Kiwi ex-pat, whom took it home,but could not register it in NZ without a civilian type tub and guards,hense the FFR tub and front guards,the radiator top tank looks unfamiliar too,as ours fitted with flattop top tank had square corners not angled one's from memory,and returned with the ex-pat later.

OR

That to get it registered and useable in WA parts were sourced ex-wrecker and they happened to come from an ex-NZ vehicle,(wasn't there some UK/NZ vehicles imported from SE Asia a few years ago into WA) or maybe it is a UK pattern tub and guards.

Just a thought


cheers
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on July 02, 2012, 09:52:38 PM
G'day Kevin

No, not the Kiwi ex pat theory ::)

When the LRPV was purchased from army auction, the new 'Aussie' owner wanted to tour Australia in it. He stripped off all the bolt on mods including the brush bar. The tub had been knocked around during it's time in the hands of the SASR so off it came. The square cut guard side panels were not required so off they came as well. An ex New Zealand army FFR Land Rover (I understand this FFR was one of 20? imported into Perth from Singapore?/Malaysia?) was sourced as a donor vehicle. On went the tub, doors, canopy and guard side panels.



Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Land Rover Man on August 05, 2012, 01:09:21 AM
I want one too !! Oh, and a unimog mother ship and...........
A shame there aren't any over this way to buy.
A damn lucky find and well worth the restoration effort. You WA blokes have all the fun !
Land Rover Man
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: skippy down under on March 04, 2015, 03:14:29 PM
Bump, Hows the work coming mate.
Stephen
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on March 04, 2015, 04:10:57 PM
Bump, Hows the work coming mate.
Stephen

Hello Stephen

Will be installing the tub (including all the SASR mods) and side steps from the wreck of 179-502 onto 179-520 in the coming months. This will then give me a complete LRPV with all the correct mods on it. As both are 'late 2A' LRPVs, the SASR modifications on each vehicle are identical. I have a very good set of guard 'square cut' side panels to be installed on 520 as well. 

Although the wreck of 502 looks a little 'battered', the tub and it's mods are in very good straight condition. All the tub mods are present and have not been tampered with. The side steps will need some attention as they have been knocked around somewhat. The bulkhead is in a rust free condition and will probably go towards the restoration of Mk1 LRPV 178-404. 404s bulkhead is beyond salvation unfortunately. At least another genuine LRPV bulkhead will be used in it's place.

I look forward to painting 520 when I finished with the restoration. The camouflage colours are very unique on this vehicle and will look completely different from my other LRPVs. I do have colour photographs for all sides of 520 (front shown in post #6) so accuracy of pattern and colours will be authentic. I will also match the original colours that still exist on the vehicle.
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on March 14, 2015, 04:04:49 PM
Found this photo of 179-520. 520 is on the left. Taken from a video posted on Facebook by the SAS Historical Foundation.

Note the twin spade grip on the front mounted M60. This type of M60 was used on the Huey Iroquoi helicopters.
Title: Re: LRPV 179-520.
Post by: Tommy on March 18, 2015, 07:38:41 PM
I have identified 179-520 in another of the images from the video posted by the SAS Historical Foundations Facebook page.

520 is the LRPV directly behind the standing soldier. Although the image is not clear, the LRPV does show characteristics unique to 520. Not only is it a late S2A, it has brush bar mounted PSP mats, same camo pattern to diff rock guard, use of 'replacement' standard (not late S2A) square cut side panel to right guard, position of RHS spare wheel and different top corner radius bend to pipes on ROPS.