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REMLR Technical => Vehicle Markings => Topic started by: zulu delta 534 on May 30, 2012, 09:35:11 PM

Title: Vehicle markings
Post by: zulu delta 534 on May 30, 2012, 09:35:11 PM
(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii115/glenpats/Untitled-Scanned-01-3.jpg)
A long time ago on another forum this photograph of a particular vehicle was posted and created a bit of interest as to its ownership at the time of the photograph (1965).
Somewhere in REMLR.com there is a page that offers information re door markings and how to recognise who or what
certain markings represent. The Diamond, Triangle, square, circle and two rectangles (vertical and horizontal  ) represent,  in order, HQ, 1 or A, 2 or B, 3 or C, 4 or D,  5 or E, depending on the era. These can either represent Batteries, Companies or Squadrons, depending on the Corps. (That is represented by the colours of the Tac sign).
The following concerns the "pentropic" set-up under which most units headed off to Vietnam, and generally an infantry Battalion in those days used letters to define its Companies, A Coy, B Coy etc., and numerals to define Platoons and sections.
A Normal Infantry Battalion consisted of 5 Companies, under a Head Quarters group.
HQ consisted of Admin, Sigs and Q mainly.

There were generally 3 or4 Rifle Companies, usually labelled alphabetically, A, B, C, and D.
These Companies themselves consisted of a HQ element, Sigs element and 4 Rifle Platoons.

Then there was Support Company.
Support consisted of a Pioneer Platoon, Mortar Platoon, Sigs Platoon, and Anti Tank Platoon.
This set up may have differed from Battalion to Battalion as some had different primary roles and would have been set up slightly differently.
The OC of each of these sub sections would have been entitled to a vehicle and his vehicle would have been allocated the number 1,
The 2ic would have had #2, and Admin and Q would have probably had #3 and #4.
 So in the case of seeing the above short base Land Rover rumbling towards oneself, the first thing to look at was the colour of the Tac sign; Red with white numbers- Infantry. 55 represents 1 RAR. The small sign on the grille tells us 'S' for Support Company, 'P' tells us Pioneers and the number '1' tells us it is the OCs vehicle.
The one behind it is the OC of Mortar Platoon in Support Company.
Had there been a gunbuggy in the picture it would have been listed as S (Support) A (Anti Tank) 4, 5, 6 etc., depending on which vehicle it was. Anti tank would have had extra vehicles allotted as most of its weapons were vehicle mounted.
What this means is that there were at the time of the conflict, nine Battalions raised and each one would have used a similar numbering technique, so if we see a gunbuggy numbered SA6 we don't really know which one it is as each Battalion had a vehicle marked SA6. The Tac sign becomes the important issue for recognition here.

When we are talking about a Transport Platoon, a similar system operates, the Tac sign tells the parent Company, the shape on the door tells the Platoon and the numbers in that shape tell the section and the vehicle number. Therefore a truck with a Triangle on the door and the numbers 53 on the door belongs to 1 Coy RAASC (Tac sign) 1 Platoon (Triangle) 5 Section and it is truck no. 3. (It can't be number 53 as a Tpt Platoon only had 33 vehicles!)
(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii115/glenpats/1PlatoonMk3.jpg)

There may be some old Infantry Tpt NCOs out there who may elaborate on the above generalisation, or even some Artillery bods who can throw some light on the interesting system the Drop shorts used.
I Hope this makes some sense and is of assistance to some.
Regards
Glen
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: aussiegregmac on June 01, 2012, 09:31:56 PM
Glen, I totally concur with the explanation re the Rovers on the ramp of the LCH but I was waiting for an Infantry type to elaborate.  Greg Mac.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: digger on June 05, 2012, 09:06:20 PM
thats MY car!!   ;D

Thanks Glen,
we had come up with some ripper 'explainations' (guesses) re the SP1, SM1
and appears we were no where close!

Thanks, its fantastic when put so clearly!
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Garry on August 21, 2012, 10:49:14 AM

Hi

I am slowly removing the paint from the doors on my S2a Workshop and have found a white diamond

I cant seem to find anything in the middle of said diamond but is only about 4 inches corner to corner on the inside

Now I have seen black markings on other vehicles but not white, remember I am quite new to this so go easy on me

Anyone out there have any ideas on the unit it may have been assigned to going on this limited (so far) information?

Garry
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Tankradio on August 21, 2012, 01:06:43 PM
Let's see more threads well written and informative by nature here on REMLR.

Well done Zulu Delta for raising the bar

Cheers

Phill
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: THE BOOGER on August 31, 2012, 03:17:21 PM
We used to have a markings thread in the old forum this seems to be closest we have now so does any body have any info on this unit tac please its on my xt600 I believe it may be a sig unit number is 5875
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: zulu delta 534 on September 21, 2012, 09:20:01 AM
Under the pentropic system (5 is the key number hence the pentropic) there were 5 sections per platoon and each section had 6 vehicles. The extra three vehicles would generally have been for the O.C., Q store and one "spare".
Regards
Glen
Title: A bit of help please
Post by: Justwanted1 on November 09, 2012, 12:36:03 PM
my Inter 6x6 F1 has this TAC plate on the back.. Can anyone enlighten me as to what it means / where it's from??
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: THE BOOGER on November 09, 2012, 02:11:55 PM
Training comd there should be another that will tell you what unit/corp it was ;)
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Justwanted1 on November 09, 2012, 02:50:30 PM
Champion. Thanks..  sadly though, no other markings :-( ..   

She still drives very very nicely for something thats had gear crunching, lane swerving curb bouncers driving it.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Justwanted1 on November 09, 2012, 03:22:26 PM
Nope...  nothing distinguishing on it anywhere except the TAC.

Its ARN is 25-297.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: THE BOOGER on November 09, 2012, 04:13:26 PM
Dont recall what corp has a black tac but it will be a unit under trg comd so that does narrow it down if you can find the corp then its very probably from the corp school ;)
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Phoenix on November 17, 2012, 09:41:41 AM
I spent some more time with the sandpaper and paint stripper on one door ofmy ambulance and found nothing on the 2-3 thick coats of olive drab, but I did find some white arkings on the Deep Bronze Olive.

Looks like a 1 / 2 but I think there is more characters on either side, but it's pretty hard to tell, I need to be more careful on the other door.

Trouble is that the deep bronze green looks like it was sanded and then primed with a pale primer that is hard to distinguish form the white markings.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: rob king on January 09, 2013, 01:55:46 PM
while were on the subject;
I'm about to start tidying up a few panels on my 78 SIII FFR
I can see a marking on the doors and chalked the outline as best as possible prior to sanding so I can measure the position etc.
Excuse my ignorance, I dont have a military background.
Seems a C company from the circle?
There are 3 vertical bars from the top but they dont seem to go all the way to the bottom.
Seems also to be a '14' in the circle but its a bit to the right so that might not be complete.
The guy I bought it from was stationed at HMAS Creswell (Nowra) and said he bought it from a Navy mate who bought at auction in Wagga. - but that is hardly certain.
ARN is 29-887
Just curious if it can be identified.(http://)
Thanks,
Rob.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Phoenix on January 10, 2013, 09:16:41 AM
Mmm, that is an unusual one I must say!
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Carzee on January 10, 2013, 10:07:39 AM
I just took a lucky dip at google image search engine.... and got nothing re the marking..... but something hi tech crypto came up for Landy FFR enthusiasts:

(http://www.jproc.ca/crypto/kw07_ffr.jpg)

http://www.jproc.ca/crypto/kw7.html (http://www.jproc.ca/crypto/kw7.html)

(note the bigpond address)
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: rob king on January 10, 2013, 05:55:13 PM
I should have sanded first.
The vertical bars are all but gone - maybe old brush strokes?
Its all black paint.
regulation 15" circle with H4 in the centre.
Does that make more sense Phoenix?
regards Rob.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: rob king on January 10, 2013, 06:01:29 PM
BTW,
Forgot to ask; once I sand bog, prime and repaint the doors, am I allowed to reinstate /  display the original markings?
Rob.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: AGAS 5 on January 10, 2013, 07:10:33 PM
I just took a lucky dip at google image search engine.... and got nothing re the marking..... but something hi tech crypto came up for Landy FFR enthusiasts:

All nicely covered up next to the teletype.... good to see   ;)

Pete
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: aussiegregmac on January 10, 2013, 08:08:53 PM
My guess ??   The circle to denote C Coy. or Sqn.
The H to denote the Headquarters element.
and the 4 to denote the fourth HQ vehicle.

If it was Armoured Corps they'd mainly be in Armoured Vehicles.
If it was Inf. then most if not all of the Company would be on Mark 1 G.P. Boot
So possibly Engineers, HQ, fourth vehicle of C Squadron. (who would need an FFR
in there somewhere)

Greg Mac
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Tommy on January 10, 2013, 08:48:46 PM

The vertical bars are all but gone - maybe old brush strokes?


G'day Rob

I have this photo showing an S3 FFR with three verticle white bars on the door. The bars may have made up part of a more elaborate sign as shown by the faded sections. They look temporary so may have been applied for the purpose of identification during a large exercise.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: rob king on January 11, 2013, 09:23:44 AM
Thanks very much Greg Mac, that seems logical.
So where might the C coy engineers have been stationed?

And Tommy, that pic explains the bars. If you fill in the faded bits  - it could be 'DP'
Only the curved bits are faded the straights look like tape?
I measured 1" wide on mine before sanding and they just got fainter, so they may have just been tape residue painted over.

Seems there are no other door markings on that FFR.
Do you know where the pic was taken?...looks like an exercise round about lunch time!
Many thanks again for your input.
Rob.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: THE BOOGER on January 11, 2013, 11:02:45 AM
On exercises temp call signs were often put on the side of pool vehicals with 1 inch masking tape. That pic looks like shoalwater bay area maybe a fire power demo?
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Phoenix on January 14, 2013, 08:46:12 AM
The stripes may have been exercise markings done with tape over the top.

We certainly encourage people to reproduce any markings that they find, but nothing is compulsory one way or another.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Tommy on January 17, 2013, 09:56:16 PM
Thanks very much Greg Mac, that seems logical.
So where might the C coy engineers have been stationed?

And Tommy, that pic explains the bars. If you fill in the faded bits  - it could be 'DP'
Only the curved bits are faded the straights look like tape?
I measured 1" wide on mine before sanding and they just got fainter, so they may have just been tape residue painted over.

Seems there are no other door markings on that FFR.
Do you know where the pic was taken?...looks like an exercise round about lunch time!
Many thanks again for your input.
Rob.

Sorry Rob but I have no idea where the photo was taken :(
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: rob king on January 17, 2013, 10:06:06 PM
Thanks Tommy.
The tape is not so important.
Seems the vehicle was likely C squadron, 4th HQ.
No surviving tac signs unfortunately. So hard to narrow it down further.
In service from 78 it wouldn't had a bad life!
Thanks for all your help.
Rob.

Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: FFRMAN on April 15, 2013, 07:44:33 PM
On both doors of a 2A workshop
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: rob king on April 16, 2013, 07:43:46 AM
That's a bit harder to replicate!
Looks like a mascot.
Bullet holes on both doors too?
Rob
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: FFRMAN on April 16, 2013, 07:51:27 AM
Bullet holes on both doors too?
Rob

The holes will be from Inter side mirrors, a common fit to the workshops.

cheers
Scott
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Diana Alan on April 17, 2013, 07:01:42 PM
This is on the loading board of my Horndraulic 3T trailer.

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Trailers/Horndraulic/20130417_135524.jpg)
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Syd on July 06, 2013, 10:54:00 AM
Can anyone help with some markings on my Cooks Bodyworks trailer?

My guess for this one is Iraq 2003:
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg248/tspeedjem/P6200014sm.jpg)


Skull and cross bones unit marking?:
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg248/tspeedjem/P6200013sm.jpg)

Div sign?:
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg248/tspeedjem/P6200012sm.jpg)

Cheers!  ;)
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: THE BOOGER on July 06, 2013, 08:54:24 PM
The bottom photo is the "xmas tree" unit identification check out this on our web site

http://www.remlr.com/

restoration information then

army vehicle markings
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Syd on July 07, 2013, 11:26:00 AM
The bottom photo is the "xmas tree" unit identification check out this on our web site

http://www.remlr.com/

restoration information then

army vehicle markings

Thanks Geoff  ;)
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: digger on July 31, 2013, 04:17:07 PM
someone will have to get it and show it but truck i9n auctions appears to have a bloke leaning on spear and
standing on one leg drawn on side of bonnett

http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0017-5007077/transport-trucks-and-trailers/6x6-flat-top-truck-incomplete-not-operational

photo 2 (i think) 
LOOK AT PHOTO 4!!!
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need to enlarge (400 is good) but is visable..

any ideas? (nor force?)


http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0062-5007077/auto-accessories/land-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-11-1987
PALM TREE OVER LION OR CAT AND A BOOMERANG? IN A SHIELD???


http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0051-5007077/auto-accessories/land-rover-110-4x4-ffr-soft-top-with-winch-6-1989
CHOOK HEAD?
comb tp OR tf also..
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Cliffy on July 31, 2013, 08:36:35 PM
Cat under palm tree is 105th medium battery.
They did time in Helmand prov.
Dunno if they shipped any vehicles over but the denuded look of the paint may say something.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Diana Alan on July 31, 2013, 09:27:40 PM
Cat under palm tree is 105th medium battery.
They did time in Helmand prov.
Dunno if they shipped any vehicles over but the denuded look of the paint may say something.
So Afrika Korps was't correct then?  :(
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: glbest on August 21, 2013, 09:18:14 PM
looks like sig unit
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: m-coffey on October 12, 2013, 05:42:57 PM
I picked up a couple of series 1's from a station south of here, one has a couple of door panels on it with some sort of defense markings, Can anyone shed some light on what t may have been from?

Mark
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Aussie Jeepster on October 12, 2013, 05:46:05 PM
Department of Lands?
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Phoenix on October 14, 2013, 11:22:03 AM
More like commonwealth than defence I expect.  I thought the broad arrow was a Commonwealth rather than Defence Motif, might be wrong though. 

That said though, the Lands Department as a state based organisation still exists in tasmania.  Interesting markings though, wonder what the number indicates?
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: 303Gunner on October 15, 2013, 01:45:04 PM
One of the Unimogs in the Sydney auctions, 38-626 (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0001-5008024/transport-trucks-and-trailers/mercedes-benz-unimog-ul1700l-flat-top-4x4-cargo-crane-truck-12-1984) has the image of "Bung" from the Wizard of Id cartoon, on the sides of the doors. Now Bung is a bit of a lovable rogue, but he also happens to be the logo for the Finks Motorcycle Club, and having this on the side of your truck might draw some unwelcome attention from both sides of the law.

What Army Unit has adopted Bung?, and are they aware of the connection to the Finks!!
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Tommy on October 15, 2013, 01:48:40 PM
The Finks bikie club has now patched over to the Mongols BC. This means that Bung is free of those controversial motorcycle clubs :)

http://www.smh.com.au/national/us-mongols-patch-over-australian-finks-gang-20131013-2vgnd.html
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Diana Alan on November 15, 2013, 02:45:15 PM
Very early in this thread Glen mentioned the SA codes for gunbuggys.  Today I was moving my buggy and noticed the aluminium key tag.  On the tag is "LANDROVER SW5" it is similar size and stamped the same as other Army key tags I've seen.

Any idea what the SW5 could refer to?

Could it be Support Workshop 5 and refer to the time at 2AOD workshops?  Or am I completely off track?  :'( 
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: FFRMAN on November 15, 2013, 04:17:31 PM
Very early in this thread Glen mentioned the SA codes for gunbuggys.  Today I was moving my buggy and noticed the aluminium key tag.  On the tag is "LANDROVER SW5" it is similar size and stamped the same as other Army key tags I've seen.

Any idea what the SW5 could refer to?

Could it be Support Workshop 5 and refer to the time at 2AOD workshops?  Or am I completely off track?  :'(

Hi Diana,

mine has SW6 written on the wings and seat box, Aussiegregmac suggested this meant a vehicle from Fire support weapons....

regards
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Diana Alan on November 15, 2013, 04:32:15 PM
Would it be too much chance for them to have been in the same unit?

Its at least a start.  :)
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: FFRMAN on November 15, 2013, 05:35:06 PM
Would it be too much chance for them to have been in the same unit?

Its at least a start.  :)

Your vehicle number 5 and mine number 6!

I know a bloke who knows the bloke standing next my Gunbuggy in this photo, he is trying to make contact and find out more/more photos....

hope someone can help

Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: zulu delta 534 on November 15, 2013, 05:40:39 PM
As time moved on (like sand through an hourglass!) so did Infantry markings and terminology. The S still represents Support Company but later on what was previously known as an Anti Tank (or Armour) Platoon became known as a Weapons Platoon instead. Therefore, vehicles that were, in the earlier days of the Vietnam conflict numbered SA 3,4,5and 6 were to become SW 3,4,5,and 6.
This was not a rare thing to happen as during the reorganisation of the army in the mid 70s some Companies became Squadrons and Platoons became troops etc.etc., similarly in earlier days wirelesses became radios.
Same animal, different name.
Regards
Glen
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Diana Alan on November 15, 2013, 06:29:39 PM
So I guess if I re-paint in camo I can put similar markings to Scott's otherwise, if its drab I don't have any info.

Thanks everyone!  :)
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: John H on November 16, 2013, 10:34:59 PM
Dianna,if you know when it left service ie date of disposal that will give a good indication of paint scheme.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Tommy on November 16, 2013, 10:44:58 PM
Dianna,if you know when it left service ie date of disposal that will give a good indication of paint scheme.

That makes sense John.

As with the LRPVs, the numerous paint schemes and unit markings should be extant under the current indigenous inspired paint scheme. Sand back a small section of bodywork and Diana should know more :).
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: John H on November 16, 2013, 11:50:52 PM
If vehicle disposal was around the late 80's early 90's it would have depended upon the prioritisation of unit requirement.If you were fortunate enough to be in a unit that was to recieve one of those new perenties(,that are now for sale) repainting didnt occur.For many of  who worked out of specialist vehicles such as Wksps,a change in the paint scheme meant little,other than it might take longer to keep up with the young ones.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Diana Alan on November 19, 2013, 12:11:46 PM
This is on the loading board of my Horndraulic 3T trailer.

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Trailers/Horndraulic/20130417_135524.jpg)
Any ideas?
I just realised this was another of my images with links broken when I sorted my Photobucket.

Any idea about what both the "RE" and also the date mean?  I'm thinking its a disposal rather than a unit serial. 

There is similar (but different colours) on my 110V/220V VW powered gen set.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Diana Alan on November 19, 2013, 12:21:48 PM
Dianna,if you know when it left service ie date of disposal that will give a good indication of paint scheme.
That makes sense John.

As with the LRPVs, the numerous paint schemes and unit markings should be extant under the current indigenous inspired paint scheme. Sand back a small section of bodywork and Diana should know more :).
Hi Tommy and John

Part of this is answered in a new thread I started in the "Member sheds" area.

As to Tommy's comment, I have rubbed back a number of areas only to reveal OD and the fact that someone decided to remove paint with an angle grinder, so the body is completely scored over almost every aluminium panel. (you can see the scoring in the following image.)

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Auntikinus/Army%20Land%20Rovers/RCL%20Carriers/112-723/DSCN0157.jpg)

BTW: In the above image, you can see some of the Auscam tan on the passengers floor.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Tommy on November 19, 2013, 08:47:15 PM
Dear me :o, that looks nasty :(.

So whats the plan, spray putty the whole vehicle?
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Lionelgee on May 06, 2014, 01:16:35 PM
Hello All,
I have a Series 3 FFR according to the nonclemature plate’s chassis number and the passenger side spring hanger marking is ARN 29-792. The vehicle now known as “Batty" and it has a Christmas Tree on it. My first Christmas Tree!

Above the Christmas Tree is the number 5333 printed in black
Below the Christmas tree appears a maroon Kangaroo and below that is the word Army.

Can anyone inform me what these marking mean and what unit the vehicle

Batty also has three TAC plates on the front and three on the rear of the vehicle.

I will post more details about ARN 29-792 over in the Series 3 section  :)

Kind Regards
Lionel
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Phoenix on May 06, 2014, 01:41:53 PM
5333 we do not have on file i'm afraid, but the triple tac plate holders are almost certainly an indication that it belonged to an artillery unit.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Mike C on May 06, 2014, 01:50:54 PM
Lionel

29792 was no longer in military service by October 1993, so the markings are before that date.

It was, indeed, an FFR while in service.

Mike C

Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Lionelgee on May 06, 2014, 05:33:51 PM
G'day Mike,

Speak of the Devil - I just found your earlier message about Christmas Trees where you explain the colour code.


 Reply #2 on: January 26, 2014, 05:37:13 AM »

    Quote

9320 is the Unit Serial Number (USN). All units have them, and under the quadripartite STANAG arrangements, Units were required to display the USN and the colour-coded Christmas tree, but I heard recently that the requirement has now been dropped. The colours represent the numbers, and are exactly the same colour-number system used in the earlier, 3 stripe 'bar code' dating from before WW2:
1  Red
2 Blue
3 Yellow
4 Light Green
5 Grey
6 Buff
7 Red Oxide (Maroon/deep orange)
8 Service colour, ie Olive Drab/deep Brunswick Green
9 White
0 Brown

http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=1819.msg17436#msg17436

Batty has three yellow stripes so number above the Christmas tree of could be 333. Or is this being rather simplistic on my behalf?

Kind Regards
Lionel
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: aussiegregmac on May 06, 2014, 05:49:59 PM
Pheonix.  while we're on the subject.  Have found that the USN for 51st Batt. FNQ is 6605
Confirmed by a reliable source.  Can you add that to the Vehicle Markings segment on the website.
First digit ( 6 ) coincides with the other RAINF numbers already shown.
Greg Mac.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: FFRMAN on May 06, 2014, 06:02:30 PM
G'day Mike,

Speak of the Devil - I just found your earlier message about Christmas Trees where you explain the colour code.


 Reply #2 on: January 26, 2014, 05:37:13 AM »

    Quote

9320 is the Unit Serial Number (USN). All units have them, and under the quadripartite STANAG arrangements, Units were required to display the USN and the colour-coded Christmas tree, but I heard recently that the requirement has now been dropped. The colours represent the numbers, and are exactly the same colour-number system used in the earlier, 3 stripe 'bar code' dating from before WW2:
1  Red
2 Blue
3 Yellow
4 Light Green
5 Grey
6 Buff
7 Red Oxide (Maroon/deep orange)
8 Service colour, ie Olive Drab/deep Brunswick Green
9 White
0 Brown

http://remlr.com/forum/index.php?topic=1819.msg17436#msg17436

Batty has three yellow stripes so number above the Christmas tree of could be 333. Or is this being rather simplistic on my behalf?

Kind Regards
Lionel


So 5333 above christmas tree means

Grey
Yellow
Yellow
Yellow

You just cant see the top of the pyramid but it should be grey

Cant help what it is though
Cheers
Scott
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Lionelgee on May 06, 2014, 06:45:12 PM
Hello FRR Man,

Thank you for the reply. I thought there was a lot of space between the top rank of numbers and the first horizontal yellow stripe in the Christmas tree. I will look for a grey stripe tomorrow.

Kind Regards
Lionel
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: FFRMAN on May 06, 2014, 08:29:56 PM
Looks like there is actually two. One on top of the other. Both the same though.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: stephendavis on May 06, 2014, 08:50:00 PM
One of the Unimogs in the Sydney auctions, 38-626 (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0001-5008024/transport-trucks-and-trailers/mercedes-benz-unimog-ul1700l-flat-top-4x4-cargo-crane-truck-12-1984) has the image of "Bung" from the Wizard of Id cartoon, on the sides of the doors. Now Bung is a bit of a lovable rogue, but he also happens to be the logo for the Finks Motorcycle Club, and having this on the side of your truck might draw some unwelcome attention from both sides of the law.

What Army Unit has adopted Bung?, and are they aware of the connection to the Finks!!
If you find any macks and mogs with the spy from mad magazine, the black spy, we painted them in places you could not see, under the bonnet inside the tool bins on the roof.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Phoenix on May 07, 2014, 11:42:00 AM
Pheonix.  while we're on the subject.  Have found that the USN for 51st Batt. FNQ is 6605
Confirmed by a reliable source.  Can you add that to the Vehicle Markings segment on the website.
First digit ( 6 ) coincides with the other RAINF numbers already shown.
Greg Mac.

Done ;)
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Dervish on November 18, 2014, 07:49:35 PM
Here are some more Perentie markings from the auctions.

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad246/OreganoM1/IMG_9833_zps1a0ffce4.jpg)

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad246/OreganoM1/IMG_9836_zps9c8140ee.jpg)

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad246/OreganoM1/IMG_9837_zps68127530.jpg)

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad246/OreganoM1/IMG_9829_zps172c8405.jpg)
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: AGAS 5 on November 19, 2014, 04:50:53 PM
Here are some more Perentie markings from the auctions.

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad246/OreganoM1/IMG_9829_zps172c8405.jpg)

Although it could be another unit.....   the scorpion as depicted here is the emblem of JTF 633  (possible locations - Iraq, Kuwait, Afghanistan... or just the UAE)

Thanks for the pics !

Pete
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Phoenix on November 24, 2014, 01:19:20 PM
An interesting tidbit of information.  Love the reaper one!
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: walrover on November 30, 2014, 09:18:45 PM
Hi All,

I was prepping the drivers side guard on my 2A 109" today and found this marking (RQ4)just above where the black out light is mounted. Any idea what it means? I think the missing letter is R.

Glen
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: AGAS 5 on November 30, 2014, 09:48:20 PM
A bit of a guesss....  Regimental Quartermaster (4th vehicle).

Plausable, but who knows ...

Pete
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: THE BOOGER on November 30, 2014, 11:33:51 PM
Try sanding around the small dent and see if it comes up clearer either a R or possibly a H, looks like the white is over the red/orange. :)

Welcome to the new forum with registrant no 21 you have been around for a while
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: walrover on December 01, 2014, 01:38:13 PM
Unfortunately the area around the dent was chipped back to the original olive drab coat. This chip happened around 10 years ago not long after I had resprayed it the first time, from a passing truck on a single bitumen lane road which really pissed me off at the time. However I would not have noticed the red layer underneath if this had not happened.

It is definitely a red base with white stencilled letters. I am sure its not a H because of the angle of the remaining letter, I was thinking R possibly for "Royal Queensland" but it also could be an A, K or X.

The Motor expired on my 109 about 12 months ago so I am giving her a respray while I wait for funds to rebuild it.

Have not been on the Forum since it was on AULRO. I think I met Uncle Ho at the LR 50th event held at the Mount Gravatt Showgrounds in 1998 after which I think I registered with REMLR. The event was held by the LROC Brisbane who I am still involved with.

Glen
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: 303Gunner on December 17, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
Here are some more Perentie markings from the auctions.
And another, on 48-102 (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0022-5011890/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-11-1987):
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: 2short on June 13, 2015, 07:41:42 PM
On a 1965 workshop.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Young Eric on June 19, 2015, 09:20:12 PM
Is this a ram or goat ?
What's it mean ?
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Dervish on July 29, 2017, 06:21:28 PM
Ram skull over Lazy E - surely one of our resident RAEME crew can ID this? Matches the Christmas tree 5519.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Mick on July 29, 2017, 10:50:59 PM
Hi Eric,

The unit is 3 Combat Engineer Regiment (3 CER). The 5519 is the unit ERN , the Lazy "E" is the Military symbol for Engineers, and the cattle head ????

Cheers,

Mick
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Morundah on November 27, 2017, 03:51:32 PM
Hi all,

I have a 110 FFR ARN 50183 the only other marking I can see is that it has a 95 painted on the door.

Can somebody please give m some info and correct markings for this vehcile

Thanks Steve
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: aussiegregmac on November 27, 2017, 06:00:26 PM
Callsign 95 ???
The callsign Nine (or Niner) reflects the Command Element of RAAC, Arty. or even Inf. Battalion etc.
As in the Commanding Occifer of an Armoured Regiment would have a Callsign of Niner.

Sub elements in that Regiment would also have Callsigns designating their role.
I just can't remember who had the Callsign 5 (Five)
So their Callsign on the radio would be Niner Five.

Some member with recent memories might be able to help.
Greg Mac.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Damocles on March 25, 2018, 08:34:55 PM
Hello all,

I'm trying to find any history of my Perentie - It has a black '57' stenciled on the driver's door left bottom and a green '57' on the front left unit plate holder. They have spray-painted over the christmas tree and its numbers but they look a lot like '5975'. I have been told that it may be 3rd RAR, but it sounded a bit tenuous. Any ideas?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: AGAS 5 on March 25, 2018, 09:08:44 PM
57 is 3 RAR.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Mick on March 25, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
G'day Mate,

It maybe 41 RNSWR  IT's ERN or Christmas Tree number is 5935

It's not 3 RAR as its ERN is 4998.

Something to work with ?

Cheers,

Mick
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Minikeg on March 25, 2018, 09:55:32 PM
Is this a ram or goat ?
What's it mean ?

Im 3 years late ...

But thats Stan the Ram from 8/9 RAR

identical marking from my 2014 rover which logbooks show was at 8/9 RAR and their mascot is a ram.. called stan
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Young Eric on March 25, 2018, 11:36:15 PM
Stan the Ram, thanks for that.
My log book says 8/9 RAR
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: Minikeg on March 26, 2018, 01:17:07 AM
Stan the Ram, thanks for that.
My log book says 8/9 RAR

This was my GS (since sold, now have a 2rar ffr)
Title: Re: Vehicle markings
Post by: glbest on March 29, 2019, 12:49:14 PM
whilst driving the other day i came across the following tac signs red blue red horizontal 34over 48  i think was the apprentice school also another one yellow blue and red raeme colours 19 45