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Vehicle Variants => Long Range Patrol Vehicle (LRPV) => Topic started by: Tommy on May 11, 2013, 10:46:29 PM

Title: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on May 11, 2013, 10:46:29 PM
G'day all

Another LRPV found and acquired/saved :D

Tuesday just gone, I came across this advertisement on Gumtree. I immediately identified the Land Rover as a S3 FFR. The square cut guard drew my attention as did the patches of colour on it. A closer look showed they were off an LRPV :).

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196gumtree_zps4a78ba90.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196m_zpse9b83d63.jpg)

After telephoning the seller, I discovered that the S3 FFR was purchased from another farmer in the district. It was this farmer who replaced the S3 outer guard panels with the LRPV set. So today, I journeyed out country to track down the LRPV.

Following the directions on a dodgy 'mud map', I finally discovered ex SASR Mk3 LRPV 175-196 sitting in the corner of a farmers shed. As with my last acquisition 179-520, this LRPV ARN is unknown to me and does not appear on the REMLR LRPV ARN list. It is therefore a 'new' LRPV. This discovery now takes the known total of 'confirmed' S2A LRPVs to 31 and Mk3 model to 9.

After meeting the farmer in question, I was able to acquire the LRPV. And just in time as he was converting/rebuilding the Land Rover for his 'P' plate daughter (as her first car) :o. This is why the front panels etc have been removed. To secure the two LRPV outer guard panels on the S3, I also acquired that vehicle.

175-196 is a rare FFT, is mostly complete, retains it's original motor and electronic ignition, is driveable and has only the boxed tailgate, drop down spare wheel holders, ROPS bar cut down and a few small parts missing. Thankfully, it retains it's very rare original Thomas winch. This LRPV is the first I have seen with this make of winch still in situ.
Bulkhead is rust free and body panels are remarkably straight. The blue paint is quite thin and apparently easy to remove if need be. The original camouflage paint is still extant under this blue coat.

Although the photos below show a rather sad looking LRPV due to the part dismantlement by farmer, it is in very good condition and will require minimal reproduction of missing parts to see it back to original state.

I intend to retrieve the LRPV and S3 in the coming weeks.

As found.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196a_zpsae5a8a71.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196c_zpsc3d1e2b6.jpg)

Chassis number.

175-196....109....1969....Series 2A....6006....Truck, Utility, 3/4 Ton, GS, Fitted For Transmission....25338127K....25329134D....Perth auction.   08.01.92   

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196b_zpse91222a7.jpg)

Interestingly, the disposal date is January 8, 1992. This date matches the date of an LRPV auction at Mt Claremont. Other LRPVs sold at this auction were -

1992, 8 Jan : 178-191 (Mk1) + 174-323 (Mk2) + 179-500 (Mk2 late S2A) + 179-502 (Mk2 late S2A) + 180-899 (Mk2 late S2A) + 172-436 (Mk3) + 178-432 (Mk3)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196d_zps0772885b.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196e_zpsa9dcf07b.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196l_zpsb9cc6079.jpg)

Whilst I was at the farm, I did some scrounging and turned up some original parts off the LRPV. In another shed on the property I found the door mounted brush deflection guards.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196g_zps4028db67.jpg)

Original bonnet, guards and rims/tyres.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196f_zps91c16305.jpg)

I even found the rear diff helper springs on a fire fighting trailer.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/175-196k_zpse8caeb2c.jpg)
Title: Re: Found on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: aussiegregmac on May 11, 2013, 11:22:08 PM
Good find.. Well done.
Title: Re: Found on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: FFRMAN on May 12, 2013, 08:25:55 AM
Wow, fantastic discovery and investigation!

I'll put it into the database shortly do you have the ARN of the Series 3 FFR?

Regards
Scott
Title: Re: Found on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Carzee on May 12, 2013, 09:39:37 AM
Wow, congrats on doing the legwork all the way from a Gumtree advert showing a single panel on that S3.
Great story. Sort of thing you see written up in magazines. Made my day.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Found on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Cliffy on May 12, 2013, 09:58:42 AM
Dibs on the winch!
Title: Re: Found on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: DennisM on May 12, 2013, 03:39:56 PM
Well done Stuart!, typical farmer (thankfully) keeping some of the steel work, might come in use one day for something LOL, good to see another saved, cheers Dennis :)
Title: Re: Found on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: digger on May 12, 2013, 04:00:52 PM
Great work!

Whilst youre looking...I wouldnt mind a gunbuggy! :)
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Phoenix on May 13, 2013, 02:48:55 PM
Nice work on saving another one, in this case just in time!
Title: Re: Found on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on May 13, 2013, 07:03:30 PM
Wow, fantastic discovery and investigation!

I'll put it into the database shortly do you have the ARN of the Series 3 FFR?

Regards
Scott

Thanks Scott :)

The ARN of the S3 is 30-224.
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on May 13, 2013, 07:44:55 PM
Thanks for all the comments :).

This new discovery may actually be an LRPV that was rumoured to be on a property in Toodyay, one hours drive north east of Perth.

Apparently the LRPV in question was used on a property to collect rocks so they could be sold on the open market. Toodyay is famous for it's 'Toodyay Stone'. This strong and aesthetically appealing stone was used in the construction of many old colonial buildings around the state and is still used today.

When I quizzed the farmer in relation to the history of his LRPV, he told me that he bought it from a car dealership in Toodyay many years ago. Apparently it sat in the yard for close to a year without finding a buyer. He thinks that the LRPV was on consignment from a local and not owned by the dealership.

When the farmer bought 175-196 from the dealership, it had a bulldozer blade mounted to the front bumper. The steel plate blade was mounted to the bumper and a hand operated single hydraulic actuator was centrally attached to a plate under the rock guard. You can see the plate in the 'As Found' photo in post #1 of this thread. The blade was simply dropped or raised by hand pumping the actuator.  As it was of no use to the farmer, he removed the blade and placed it near his scrap heap.

It is this blade and the fact that the LRPV came from Toodyay that makes me think that the mystery Toodyay LRPV has now been found.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/Blade1_zps22b3d547.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/LRPV/Blade2_zpsbed3abc5.jpg)

The farmer is a Land Rover nut like us all. Here are some photos of his Landy wrecks. Part of the LRPV purchase deal was that I could have any military parts that I find on the property. If anyone sees something they want, let me know.

Main Landy shed.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/shed_zps37a665d9.jpg)

Military tub side seats buried under junk.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/shed1_zps9624a60f.jpg)

Early military bonnet.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/shed2_zps2f7a80f0.jpg)

Front chassis cut from S3 FFR.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/junk1_zpsb9c72138.jpg)

FFR battery box racks.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/junk_zps0be12f8f.jpg)

Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: digger on May 14, 2013, 02:49:17 AM
you are amazing with what you see and recognise !!

well done.

I want to know more of the toodyay lrpv mystery story!!
(off to search!)
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on May 14, 2013, 07:14:30 PM
I want to know more of the toodyay lrpv mystery story!!

The mystery Toodyay LRPV was one of those vehicles you know exists but can't be found :(.

Around 1991/92, at least four LRPVs were purchased from disposal auction by Joe of Morley Four Wheel Drive. At his workshop, he removed the SASR mods which would have prevented him from licencing the vehicles. These mods included the drop down 'bat wing' spare wheel holders on the Mk3 and the spare wheel holders across the door opening on the Mk2. By removing these mods, doors could be reinstalled. To add some weather protection, Joe had 'truck cab' soft tops made for each LRPV. He painted a couple of the LRPVs and left others in their original camo paint.

Joe's LRPVs were eventually sold and disappeared into the private market. One of his LRPVs eventually passed into the hands of a Toodyay local who was rumoured to have used the Land Rover to haul rocks out of his property/farm. It was said that a lifting arm (with block and tackle) was constructed out of steel tube/RHS to lift the rocks. This lifting arm utilised the tub machine gun pedestal mount to support it. It looked a bit like the Land Rover wrecker setup.

REMLR member Cliffy and I have known about this LRPV for some time. Cliffy had originally heard of the Toodyay LRPV through the rumour mill. We have both spent time searching for the LRPV but to no avail.

I'm yet to confirm that my new discovery is infact the Toodyay LRPV. If it isn't, the search will continue.
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Chazza on May 29, 2013, 02:38:07 PM
Brilliant detection work Stuart, as per normal! :D

If you find some rear seats or frames for my 2A GS, I would love to have them,

Cheers Charlie
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on August 03, 2013, 09:20:02 PM
Picked up 175-196 today.

Reassembled and ready to go.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/002a_zps21b27c9c.jpg)

Used the farm tractor to push it on (carefully and without damage).

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/005a_zps716b2bb1.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/006a_zpscbbba583.jpg)
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Carzee on August 03, 2013, 10:14:17 PM
Good result - the engine/driveline is a non goer because... or is it trailered because of rego hassles?
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on August 04, 2013, 08:50:25 AM
Good result - the engine/driveline is a non goer because... or is it trailered because of rego hassles?

It's a driveable vehicle Ross. No brakes unfortunately. Still has original motor and SASR modifications.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/035a_zps4573676a.jpg)
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: rednjoey on August 04, 2013, 10:42:11 AM
Stuart

You just have this uncanny ability to find rare vehicles in very good condition.

A sensational find mate.
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on August 04, 2013, 09:56:07 PM
Stuart

You just have this uncanny ability to find rare vehicles in very good condition.

A sensational find mate.

Thanks Wade :)

Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on August 04, 2013, 10:07:01 PM
Went back up to Wongan Hills today and picked up the S3.

The original LRPV guard side panels will be removed and installed on 175-196 in the coming weeks.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/013a_zps19df4230.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/016a_zpsba70a387.jpg)





Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: skippy down under on May 05, 2014, 02:57:29 PM
Hi Tommy, bump!
How is the work progressing?
Stephen.
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: archieaja on August 26, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
Another bump!

Any new progress on this one? Its a great start to a restoration story.
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: AGAS 5 on August 26, 2014, 06:27:24 PM
Hey guys.... tommy deleted his account a while ago  :-\
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Cliffy on October 05, 2014, 01:24:38 PM
I think I can say no progress on Tommys behalf as he has been busy with other non-Landy projects.
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: THE BOOGER on October 05, 2014, 09:49:32 PM
Thanks cliffy
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on September 20, 2015, 10:05:55 PM
Update...

Finally got around to swapping over the square cut guards onto 196. I also took the opportunity to remove all the civilian add-ons and return it back to it's original LRPV configuration.

How she looked before transformation.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a_zps1rxelwey.jpg)

Angle grinded the face off the civilian guards so as I could get to those troublesome bolts. This made the job soooo much easier. I also removed the small aluminium panels fitted to the base of the guard front panels. These were used to extend the front panels to accommodate the civilian side panels.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a1_zps3rgd4kbf.jpg)

Fitted the original guard side panels to both sides.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a2_zpscpfclqs9.jpg)
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on September 20, 2015, 10:10:04 PM
Removed the hardtop and windscreen.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a3_zpspwyutng8.jpg)

Re-fitted the original scrub deflectors to both sides.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a7_zpskaqimytz.jpg)

Cleaned out the cockpit and tub. Re-installed the FFT tub bulkhead mounted tool holders.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a4_zpswltjctjh.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a5_zpsbsqxoamf.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a6_zpsqwb5phfq.jpg)

Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on September 20, 2015, 10:15:02 PM
Tub interior is in exceptional condition with no dents or damage. I fitted some LRPV parts to show how it would look. Fuel tank, box tailgate, inner tub storage bins and another set of floor mounted storage bins require manufacturing to complete. The ROPS bar also required completing. These items are of simple construction and will be a straight forward task during a restoration.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a8_zpscyhvrynm.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a9_zpszwhplvdv.jpg)

A good days work over.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a10_zpsiinvr51y.jpg)
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on September 20, 2015, 10:22:29 PM
Will be tackling the motor next weekend. Hopefully have it running around the paddock in no time :)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/tommykm/REMLR%20Forum%20Photos/a11_zpsn89nxtkj.jpg)
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: DennisM on September 21, 2015, 01:18:50 PM
That's one nice big workshed, ? is it yours? cheers Dennis :)
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on September 21, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
That's one nice big workshed, ? is it yours? cheers Dennis :)

Hello Dennis

Yes it is a large shed....and no, it's not mine :'(. I have my LRPVs and XF4 stored in it.
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on September 28, 2015, 06:43:49 PM
With help from my mate Gary (the mechanic), we had 196 up and running today. Apart from changing over the starter solenoid, there were no other problems encountered. The motor started up straight away. It runs perfectly with no smoke from the exhaust or tappet cover breather :)

Gary took the LRPV for a spin around the paddock. Everything worked as it should. I also installed a spare LRPV windscreen and centre storage box to cab.

Next job is the ROPS rebuild. The bar that you see on the vehicle is actually one half of the original ROPS. All I will need to do is have another length of pipe bent to this shape, reinstall the horizontal barwork that was removed by previous owner, weld in a new piece of mesh to top and a couple of new fixing brackets. The drop down spare wheel holders on each side will also be re-manufactured.

She is looking more like a LRPV everyday :).
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on September 29, 2015, 03:22:30 PM
Short video of the paddock test run :).

https://youtu.be/VGoorSLjYMg
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: DennisM on September 29, 2015, 04:24:26 PM
Looking good,  :D your lucky to have a mate who understands older engines and can work on it without the use of a computer, the only item on the vehicle that I personally wouldn't have, is the position of the fuel filter. If it splits (as they do sometimes from heat fatigue) the vehicle will be lost, I have one mounted on  mine down on the other side of the engine, just off the delivery side of the fuel line away from the heat, just my personal choice, otherwise the vehicle sounds good, cheers Dennis  :)
Title: Re: Discovered on Farm: LRPV 175-196
Post by: Tommy on September 29, 2015, 09:04:09 PM
Looking good,  :D your lucky to have a mate who understands older engines and can work on it without the use of a computer, the only item on the vehicle that I personally wouldn't have, is the position of the fuel filter. If it splits (as they do sometimes from heat fatigue) the vehicle will be lost, I have one mounted on  mine down on the other side of the engine, just off the delivery side of the fuel line away from the heat, just my personal choice, otherwise the vehicle sounds good, cheers Dennis  :)

Hello Dennis

Gary owns an ex MOD 101 and is a mechanic by trade. He has worked on most of my Land Rovers. A genius with old motors.

I agree with you in relation to the fuel line filter location. Was in this position when I bought the LRPV. I will move it next time I work on the motor.

Putting the safety factor to one side, this location allowed us to see fuel flow, fuel colour and whether the filter was dirty. Much better than lying under the vehicle and having fuel drip on ones face ;)

Motor did sound very good. Ticked over nicely :).